HUNTING Giraffe

Discussion in 'Shot Placement' started by AfricaHunting.com, Dec 17, 2008.

  1. Bob Nelson 35Whelen

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    I love the Woodleigh. Agree with impact velocity but I don't shoot animals near the muzzle.
    I load my 35Whelan with 225 gn PPSN ,65grains cfe223 chronoed muzzle velocity 2,950fps . I shot my black wildebeest at around 170 yards slightly 1/4ing away. Thu and thru shot breaking offside shoulder. He only ran 20yards and piled up.
    Hartman zebra same projectile at 100yards broadside smashed both shoulders and bullet found just under the skin on the offside.
    Photos attached show recovered woodleigh from zebra and accubond from my kudu. Kudu hit front on ,bullet traveled thru 5 foot of animal but didn't hit any major bones.
    Woodleigh gets a big thumbs up from me.
    Cheaper here in oz than nosler to. 20191122_214127.jpg 20191122_214031.jpg 20191031_214852.jpg 20191031_214245.jpg
     
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  2. Daga Boy

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    It is a BIG mistake to shoot a giraffe behind the shoulder.
    I don't know what you shot is with , but you are quite lucky to have found it at all.
    One that I am aware of was shot last year with .375H&H behind the shoulder and the PH followed up with a .500 , which hit too far back.
    The animal ran/walked for 26km. Was only found the next day - sick but still on its feet. Fortunately there are no lions or spotted Hyenas on that reserve , otherwise it would probably have ended up as dinner.
     

  3. mikecatt13

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    Giraffe is at the top of my wifes list for a future trip. Bought her an R8 in 300WM and am going to get a 416 rem barrel for it for this purpose and the possibility of buffalo in the future. Feel that its wise to take the 416 after the giraffe so its sufficient for whatever shot is presented.

    I plan on using A Frames for all our other calibers but have heard about the incredible thickness of giraffe hide. Will an A Frame be sufficient for a heart shot on giraffe or should I look into a mono expanding bullet like the Barnes for this particular purpose due to the penetration they get?
     

  4. Hank2211

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    I've taken far more giraffes than I should . . . and I've used both A-Frames and Triple Shock's successfully. In a .416 I don't think you will need to worry - even with the impressively thick hide on (parts of) a giraffe, you should get more than enough penetration to do the job.

    You might also want to think about the high neck shot (where penetration is not an issue). The result is very impressive.
     

  5. mikecatt13

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    Thank you sir! She will of course take whatever shot the PH recommends and is a very good shot, I just figure it would be wise to be prepared to take a heart shot, and 300WM isnt ideal for that on this animal so might as well get the 416 barrel, we will need it for buff one day anyway.

    Not to mention I bought 120 rounds of 416 rem on sale for $2.5/rd through nosler before I even bought the gun let alone the barrel haha. So that will be great for practice ammo and nice once fired cases to put some A Frames in
     
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  6. ack

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    A-Frames are sufficient for just ,about anything on earth unless you want a solid..so is a .300
     
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  7. ack

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    My wife shot hers close behind the shoulder with a 30/06 ,180 gr A-Frame and it was dead before it hit the ground ...
     

  8. Daga Boy

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    I agree. Most wounded giraffes are the result of attempted heart shots that didn't find the mark. High neck or head is a much better option.
    As to bullet choice, I use Swift A Frames and haven't had a problem to date. My "go to" in my .338WM is a 275gr A Frame. This will go most of the way if not clean through a buffalo. But a monometal is also a good option.
     

  9. Rule 303

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    I figure if you can't hit the heart of a Giraffe then you have no business trying for a high neck or head shot. .However if the heart shot miss is due to not knowing the anatomy of the animal then why is someone aiming for it.
     

  10. Hank2211

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    A bit harsh I'd say, @Rule 303!

    We've all, well at least I have - completely missed entire animals which are a whole lot bigger than a giraffe's heart (big though that may be). The problem with missing the heart on a giraffe is that you have an excellent chance of still hitting the giraffe, resulting in what could be a very long recovery, or even a loss. And of course this can happen even if you know where the heart is and you were aiming straight for it.

    If you miss the high neck shot, you stand a pretty good chance of missing the giraffe entirely. And I'd rather miss entirely than hit the animal but still miss a vital organ.
     

  11. Daga Boy

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    I agree. That said, there are really two issues with the heart shot (apart from the fact that one can often see the head but not the body). The first is that people seem not to understand exactly where the heart is situated , or where exactly to aim given the angle and so end up hitting the animal in a non vital area (typically the stomach). The second is that the leg bone is very thick, so a quarter on shot can result in a deflection or blow up. The head of a giraffe is actually pretty big, especially when viewed front on (common presentation as giraffes have that habit) and a hit anywhere on the head or upper spine with a decent calibre will knock the animal down - in all likelihood for good. A gut shot giraffe , on the other hand, can run for days. A side on head shot is also not a great idea unless you are very certain of your aim as the chance of wounding is high - so in that presentation the high spine (which is a good sized target) is the better option.
     

  12. mikecatt13

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    Thinking about keeping the first trip as simple.as possible and leave the 416 barrel for a later date

    From what I gather here, for neck or head shots the .300WM with aframes will be just fine.

    In the event of a body/heart shot, would .375HH with aframes suffice or would it be wise to take a box of barnes due to the extra penetration they seem to offer? Or even barnes in .300WM might do? I'm never the type to want to error on the side of not enough gun, recoil isnt an issue
     

  13. Daga Boy

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    Yes, a 300WM is fine. Just use the heaviest bullet your rifle will shoot well. 200-220gr is good and the bullet must be strong (like an A frame) to minimise the risk of blow up. Actually there is no real risk of a blow up with a high neck shot as the skin in that area is thin and the shot will basically be directly onto the spine. Still, better to be safe than sorry, so use a premium bullet.
    .375H&H is pretty much the "go to" / default calibre for all medium to large game in these parts (with the exception of elephant, although also used for that) and an ideal calibre for giraffe. Unless you are hunting in a desert region, where long shots are the rule, go for a good 300gr bullet - like an A frame. A slightly lighter monometal is also an option, but I am very happy with the performance of A frames on everything , so that is what I would go for. That sort of load works well on buffalo so it is definitely all you need for a giraffe - just be careful about shot placement when going for the heart. A lung shot giraffe can run a long way, and a gut shot one pretty much doesn't stop. One should never try for the heart when approaching from the rear (say quartering away) as the trajectory will be through the stomach, which is typically full of twigs, etc and there is a good chance that the bullet will not penetrate that mass. Rather wait for the animal to stand and look at you - which they normally do after a while if you don't chase them hard.
     

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