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[coreydb]

The same could be said in the US…

Who voted talib, omar, AOC, and the rest of the idiots in our house into office?

Amen Brother, Amen!!!!!

 

[skydiver386]

The same could be said in the US…

Who voted talib, omar, AOC, and the rest of the idiots in our house into office?

The immigrants that were brought here to do just that.

 

[rookhawk]

We can reverse engineer anything.. and we’ve got the economy and tech to build anything…

Our challenge would be whether or not it would be affordable…

People think they deserve a “living wage” to work part time as a barista or flipping burgers at Wendy’s…

Imagine the labor rate for people working in chip manufacturing…

You’d have to invest deeply in an almost completely automated facility up front.. or you’d never be able to sell your chips in any volume… the labor costs would kill you…

Ignoring the cost of wages, the logistics are impossible.

1.) It takes about 7 years to make a world class chip factory like TSC, Pegasus, Nvidia, Foxconn.

2.) the machines that make chips are built in Taiwan, which won’t exist if China invades. Hell, most good manufacturing lathes and mills are made there as well.

3.) The transformers and power distribution to power said factory are 5 years backlogged today and come from China.

If China takes over Taiwan, we will be forced into WW3 to fight to the last man or we can be choked off and thrown into the Stone Age.

It would take us 15 years to recover technologically if China abruptly invades Taiwan. During those interim years we would stagnate, unable to manufacture numerous goods, computers for vehicles, airplanes, industry, etc.

It's a very dangerous concentration risk.

 

[Tanks]

Life isn't fair.

I think that's our line.

 

[AJ Peacock]

Ignoring the cost of wages, the logistics are impossible.

1.) It takes about 7 years to make a world class chip factory like TSC, Pegasus, Nvidia, Foxconn.

2.) the machines that make chips are built in Taiwan, which won’t exist if China invades. Hell, most good manufacturing lathes and mills are made there as well.

3.) The transformers and power distribution to power said factory are 5 years backlogged today and come from China.

If China takes over Taiwan, we will be forced into WW3 to fight to the last man or we can be choked off and thrown into the Stone Age.

It would take us 15 years to recover technologically if China abruptly invades Taiwan. During those interim years we would stagnate, unable to manufacture numerous goods, computers for vehicles, airplanes, industry, etc.

It's a very dangerous concentration risk.

We would have to retaliate with an EMP to set them back as well. OK, back to the reloading bench.

AJ

 

[mdwest]

It's a very dangerous concentration risk.

All the more reason someone should be doing something to mitigate the risk and resolve the problem…

If it takes 7 years… yesterday was a much better time to get to work than tomorrow…

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Ignoring the cost of wages, the logistics are impossible.

1.) It takes about 7 years to make a world class chip factory like TSC, Pegasus, Nvidia, Foxconn.

2.) the machines that make chips are built in Taiwan, which won’t exist if China invades. Hell, most good manufacturing lathes and mills are made there as well.

3.) The transformers and power distribution to power said factory are 5 years backlogged today and come from China.

If China takes over Taiwan, we will be forced into WW3 to fight to the last man or we can be choked off and thrown into the Stone Age.

It would take us 15 years to recover technologically if China abruptly invades Taiwan. During those interim years we would stagnate, unable to manufacture numerous goods, computers for vehicles, airplanes, industry, etc.

It's a very dangerous concentration risk.

You apparently aren’t familiar with ASML

Modi in Netherlands: One firm holds the key to India's chip ambition - The Economic Times

Prime Minister Modi's visit to the Netherlands highlights India's critical reliance on ASML, the sole provider of advanced lithography machines, for its ambitious semiconductor manufacturing goals. This Dutch company's technology is indispensable for India's multi-billion-dollar chip project...

m.economictimes.com

You are correct about how much stuff is made in Taiwan. Just about all the US brands of power tools are made in Taiwan. All the top name wood working equipment too.

 

[Corey0372]

Also makes it even more critical that we bring chip manufacturing in large scale back inside the US…

As well as munitions grade nitrocellulose, as well as rare earth mineral refining, as well as ...... etc, etc, etc

 

[Altitude sickness]

Yes it's true that catholic schools do quite well by their students. But there is another factor you have not considered, and i think you may have your correlation and causation switched. Catholic schools require their students family to pay for it themselves. Ask yourself this question; what family has the money to send 3 kids to Catholic school in the first place?...Not ones at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. The students come from wealthier families to begin with when compared to the average public school student. 3 kids x $7000/yr is $21K per year. Most families don't have that much money lying around.

Those students come from families with greater means and resources, and that is a factor in their continued success. Also, those homeschooling studies are largely misleading as several of them that show great success with homeschooled students are not random samples, and use self-selected results. Resulting in a disproportionately larger amount of wealthy, highly educated homeschooling families, and do not represent the median student.

I think you’re turning conservative on us my friend. You are making the conservative school voucher argument.

The “Rich” have the means to get a proper education. And “poor” people are trapped inside the public education system. Taking 12 years of someone’s life to teach 3 years worth of knowledge.

The national average is about ($17,840) per pupil per year for public education. And they can’t read. Have a woeful level of history knowledge. And math forget it.

If Randi Weingarten would allow the Democrats to value inner city kids education as much as they value the union kickbacks. The US wouldn’t be below 3rd world levels for Primary and Secondary school proficiency.

The Democrat education cabal is the most racist education system in the world. The Wealthy get educated and the poor get low standards and expectations.

 

[Doug3006]

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Yes it's true that catholic schools do quite well by their students. But there is another factor you have not considered, and i think you may have your correlation and causation switched. Catholic schools require their students family to pay for it themselves. Ask yourself this question; what family has the money to send 3 kids to Catholic school in the first place?...Not ones at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. The students come from wealthier families to begin with when compared to the average public school student. 3 kids x $7000/yr is $21K per year. Most families don't have that much money lying around.

Those students come from families with greater means and resources, and that is a factor in their continued success. Also, those homeschooling studies are largely misleading as several of them that show great success with homeschooled students are not random samples, and use self-selected results. Resulting in a disproportionately larger amount of wealthy, highly educated homeschooling families, and do not represent the median student.

I agree that a big reason private school kids outperform public school kids is because their parents are involved and encourage learning. Same goes for most homeschooled kids. What I think is utter nonsense is the notion that more money (also called “investing in our kids) will make a damned bit of difference. It’s literally the only solution offered by politicians, teachers unions and the media. Pouring more tax money into schools won’t help students who come to class exhausted because they run the streets all night….haven’t cracked a book because there’s no one at home to force them to….and have no one in their lives who value education. Our local, county public school is outstanding. Mainly because the parents are involved. Other districts in the county are not so fortunate. St. Louis City public schools are abysmal. Money is not the reason.

 

[wesheltonj]

Yes it's true that catholic schools do quite well by their students. But there is another factor you have not considered, and i think you may have your correlation and causation switched. Catholic schools require their students family to pay for it themselves. Ask yourself this question; what family has the money to send 3 kids to Catholic school in the first place?...Not ones at the bottom of the socioeconomic ladder. The students come from wealthier families to begin with when compared to the average public school student. 3 kids x $7000/yr is $21K per year. Most families don't have that much money lying around.

Those students come from families with greater means and resources, and that is a factor in their continued success. Also, those homeschooling studies are largely misleading as several of them that show great success with homeschooled students are not random samples, and use self-selected results. Resulting in a disproportionately larger amount of wealthy, highly educated homeschooling families, and do not represent the median student.

Maybe where you live that the case. But in San Antonio it’s not. There are plenty of poor folks who spend their last dime to send their kids to Catholic school at least till the 8th grade.

 

[mdwest]

In Memphis there are several Catholic schools…

Memphis Catholic is (or at least was, when I lived there) very inexpensive and was almost exclusively inner city kids, with a high minority population, and many from lower income families…

Christian Brothers is (or again, was..) largely lower middle class to true middle class families from the north side and from east Memphis…

Bishop Byrne and St Benedict were largely upper middle class kids…

The Catholic Church made sure there was something available for everyone at pretty much any income level that lived in the metro area…

All of the schools also offered scholarships for kids from true low income families that otherwise couldn’t afford it to kids that had good enough test scores, grades, and aptitude..

The same was true of Protestant schools… Skyview Baptist for example was in Frayser, a very low income part of town and was extremely inexpensive… and Briarcrest Baptist was mostly upper middle class to upper class families (if you’ve ever watched the movie The Blindside… the high school that the kid gets a scholarship to play football at is Briarcrest…)…

Using the Baptist schools as an example, both Skyview and Briarcrest had excellent athletic programs and very good academic reputations… Skyview in particular to be such a small school put a disproportionately high number of kids into NCAA Division 1 athletic programs on scholarship… they had an exceptional baseball program, and a very solid football program for a school their size…

 

[skydiver386]

As well as munitions grade nitrocellulose, as well as rare earth mineral refining, as well as ...... etc, etc, etc

When they deindustrialized the United States this was the plan.

 

[Big_Easy]

I think you’re turning conservative on us my friend. You are making the conservative school voucher argument.

The “Rich” have the means to get a proper education. And “poor” people are trapped inside the public education system. Taking 12 years of someone’s life to teach 3 years worth of knowledge.

The national average is about ($17,840) per pupil per year for public education. And they can’t read. Have a woeful level of history knowledge. And math forget it.

If Randi Weingarten would allow the Democrats to value inner city kids education as much as they value the union kickbacks. The US wouldn’t be below 3rd world levels for Primary and Secondary school proficiency.

The Democrat education cabal is the most racist education system in the world. The Wealthy get educated and the poor get low standards and expectations.

You're assuming that all public schools are bad. They're not. I'm not opposed to voucher's for students zoned for schools that have poor performance. The problems occur when voucher's are given to wealthier parents that were already paying to send their kids to private schools. Like the republicans did a few years ago here in NC. Or when we spend money to send kids to a private school when the local public school is A-rated. Is that an efficient use of tax dollars?

Then there's the funding of religions schools. Right-wingers are all to happy here locally when it's a baptist or catholic school, but what happens when its a muslim madrasa? Turns out they get big mad about that. And what of the accountability? Republicans in Florida specifically exempted private charter schools from many of the same regulations as public schools. If they're so much better, why the exemptions? Why not play by the same set of rules? Besides, they've already studied 20+ years of the data in Michigan and come to the conclusion that on average, long term charter schools are no better than the public ones.

Go search how many charter schools have failed. Republicans never talk about those. Especially the for-profit ones. Its not just a problem for K-12 schools, but colleges and trade schools as well. By the time they fail, the clowns that run them are long gone with the publics money. Where's the accountability in that? You want Democrats to actually support voucher's? Limit them to lower/middle income student for bad school districts/schools, and limit them to non-profit charter schools. If the school fails, demand some sort of accountability.

 

[Big_Easy]

When they deindustrialized the United States this was the plan.

And by "they" are you referring to the CEO's of large corporations and their Republican Cheerleaders that outsourced those jobs and industries overseas?

 

[AJ Peacock]

You're assuming that all public schools are bad. They're not. I'm not opposed to voucher's for students zoned for schools that have poor performance. The problems occur when voucher's are given to wealthier parents that were already paying to send their kids to private schools. Like the republicans did a few years ago here in NC. Or when we spend money to send kids to a private school when the local public school is A-rated. Is that an efficient use of tax dollars?
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Yes, since it is those wealthy folks tax money YOU are spending. That is why I believe the money should follow the child. Name one place where fair competition doesn't make all participants better! Fair competition for the money associated with each child will make ALL schools better.

AJ

 

[AJ Peacock]

... If the school fails, demand some sort of accountability.

Yeah, like we demand accountability from the monopoly of the public schools/teachers unions and the democratic politicians that feed at the trough of the union $$$'s ? Right!

Don't worry, your policies are only impacting the least of the citizenry! Go ahead, keep the poor kids shackled to the failing public schools. Conservatives want ALL kids to have a chance at a good education.

AJ

 

[LivingTheDream]

And by "they" are you referring to the CEO's of large corporations and their Republican Cheerleaders that outsourced those jobs and industries overseas?

They is both parties. You don't think the democrats are cheering on a completely dependent under class?

 

[fourfive8]

Unfortunately there are a lot of voters with the same mentality as Big_Easy. Liberalism is a mental disorder. No need to bother with trying to reason with those who have no reason. Psychologists get paid big bucks for BSing around this issue, yet nothing ever gets solved and the mentally ill seem to be an ever growing demographic. Big_Easy uses the same logic AGAINST school vouchers as he uses FOR promoting the virtues of the biggest socialist scam of the past decade- Obamacare. I have no use for and try to avoid trading wits with the witless and mentally ill- it’s like falling into a black hole of negative IQ.

 

[Brent in Az]

Fighter jet collision at an Idaho airshow