Politics

[Wishfulthinker580]

I don’t think there’s any love lost between the Arabs and Persians.

Or Shia and Sunni. Lots of celebrating going on right now I imagine. Although they’re probably wondering what’s next

 

[mdwest]

I keep hearing the democrats saying that Iran is not an imminent threat to the USA, I wish someone would start pointing out all of the 200+ Marines killed in Beirut in 83’ including my best friend from high school. Add every US servicemen and women that have been killed and wounded by Iranian backed forces and Iranian IED’s.
They’ve been a threat ever since 1979 .

In March 2025 Houthis attacked the USS Harry Truman.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran...

October 2023 Hamas killed 30 US Citizens in Israel.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran..

1996 Hezbollah attacked the Khobar Towers in KSA and killed 19 USAF personnel.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran..

June 2025 a wave of state sponsored Iranian cyber attacks were conducted against numerous US networks..

June 2025 - Iranian backed militias launched missiles at 3 US bases in Syria..

March 2025 - US courts convict 2x Iranian agents for plotting to assassinate a US journalist in NY in 2022..

and thats just off the top of my head...

there are literally dozens upon dozens of attacks either conducted by Iran directly or by its sponsored and paid for proxies against the US just in the last 20 years..

and that doesnt begin to count the thousands upon thousands of attacks on US forces (and other coalition forces) in Iraq and Afghanistan during GWOT that were either funded, provided munitions, training, etc.. by the Iranians..

and it was just last year we had to hammer them for once again violating their nuclear agreements and developing nuclear weapons...

anyone that thinks Iran isnt an imminent threat is either a) an idiot.. or b) a politician that thinks they have something to gain by saying such stupid shit..

 

[steve white]

From Europe? I am not sure why any European carrier would cancel a flight to JNB when they don’t fly anywhere near the war zone. What’s the rest of the story?

The rest of the story is Trump hatred. We get it, we see it lots of places. Sunday, I had the pianist stand up red faced and shout "WE ARE THE AGGRESSORS"--RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF PRAYER OF PROTECTION FOR OUR TROOPS"! ! !! He's the one always saying "don't get political" lol. TDS becomes an absolute obsession, to the point that they had rather see our country lose or burn if it will make Trump fail. The SOTU response by the Dems should illustrate that nicely.

 

[HookMeUpII]

I keep hearing the democrats saying that Iran is not an imminent threat to the USA, I wish someone would start pointing out all of the 200+ Marines killed in Beirut in 83’ including my best friend from high school. Add every US servicemen and women that have been killed and wounded by Iranian backed forces and Iranian IED’s.
They’ve been a threat ever since 1979 .

Iran has been a disease to the region for the last 30 years, and more. Hamas, Hezbollah, Yemen, ISIS/L, AQ, militias in the western hemisphere, and the list goes on. Iran has their evil hands in all of them.

I've seen some of the intel briefs in the last year. Iran, AQ, Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS and others have all been working together. Supposedly, they are really chummy with Hamza Bin Laden. Who is still alive, regardless of what the CIA says.

I don't love what's going on. Not a fan of any war, really. However, it was coming to this sooner or later. If it didn't, the problem would have gotten out of hand.

Once again, it's us having to clean up the mess.

 

[HookMeUpII]

In March 2025 Houthis attacked the USS Harry Truman.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran...

October 2023 Hamas killed 30 US Citizens in Israel.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran..

1996 Hezbollah attacked the Khobar Towers in KSA and killed 19 USAF personnel.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran..

June 2025 a wave of state sponsored Iranian cyber attacks were conducted against numerous US networks..

June 2025 - Iranian backed militias launched missiles at 3 US bases in Syria..

March 2025 - US courts convict 2x Iranian agents for plotting to assassinate a US journalist in NY in 2022..

and thats just off the top of my head...

there are literally dozens upon dozens of attacks either conducted by Iran directly or by its sponsored and paid for proxies against the US just in the last 20 years..

and that doesnt begin to count the thousands upon thousands of attacks on US forces (and other coalition forces) in Iraq and Afghanistan during GWOT that were either funded, provided munitions, training, etc.. by the Iranians..

and it was just last year we had to hammer them for once again violating their nuclear agreements and developing nuclear weapons...

anyone that thinks Iran isnt an imminent threat is either a) an idiot.. or b) a politician that thinks they have something to gain by saying such stupid shit..

Let's not forget them funding ISIS/L and AQ in various campaigns. They have had their hand and money in things for a very, very long time.

I agree with you completely.

 

[Wheels]

Ahmadinejad, third from left with American Embassy hostage. Nice to see he reached his expiration date. “Uncle Sam put your name at the top of his list….”

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/reports-emerge-that-ahmadinejad-killed-as-state-media-says-it-cannot-confirm-his-fate/

 

[steve white]

It's an interesting read..quite in depth about a lot of the different issues going on....they are pretty good at some things...shite at others

I posted after reading the whole article.

 

[Sideshow]

Yeah I was just wondering as time goes on and they get hit more who they going to be more pissed off with...

Don’t get me started…..give me a piece of paper I wipe my arse give it to Starmer tell him it just came from the president of Iran say that it’s a sign piece package and he’ll wave it and call it peace in our time….. could be worse we could have Corbin and power

 

[Sideshow]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-intel-said-to-assess-that-us-only-has-enough-firepower-for-5-days-of-intense-assault-on-iran/?dicbo=v2-1e5Jzqp

Interesting

 

[HookMeUpII]

The fact they shot a missile into a hotel in Dubai is still blowing my mind. I am not saying the UAE are the cleanest sheet in the drawer. They are not one you want to be doing that to.

 

[HookMeUpII]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-intel-said-to-assess-that-us-only-has-enough-firepower-for-5-days-of-intense-assault-on-iran/?dicbo=v2-1e5Jzqp

Interesting

I find that incredibly hard to believe.

 

[skydiver386]

Sounds like a gauntlet of jackwagons. But I'm like you. I have no idea how this is going to go before ending with a huge disappointment.

I can tell you with near 100% accuracy what will happen.

This will gradually deescalate over the next few weeks, just like it did when we launched strikes against Iran's enrichment facilities. The Iranian Chain of Command will be weakened, it's Air Force and Navy reduced to flying kites and paddling canoe's, etc., but the basic leadership, the IRGC and the Basij Militia will remain.

The problem as I see it is not Trump, or the planners at the Pentagon, or Israel, or our allies in the region.

The problem is the people of Iran. In the last 47 years, there has been very little armed resistance to the Regime. Protests? Sure, but holding a sign doesn't seem to be working.

If a people of any Nation don't fight to make their Country free, no other Nation can do it for them.

 

[HookMeUpII]

I can tell you with near 100% accuracy what will happen.

This will gradually deescalate over the next few weeks, just like it did when we launched strikes against Iran's enrichment facilities. The Iranian Chain of Command will be weakened, it's Air Force and Navy reduced to flying kites and paddling canoe's, etc., but the basic leadership, the IRGC and the Basij Militia will remain.

The problem as I see it is not Trump, or the planners at the Pentagon, or Israel, or our allies in the region.

The problem is the people of Iran. In the last 47 years, there has been very little armed resistance to the Regime. Protests? Sure, but holding a sign doesn't seem to be working.

If a people of any Nation don't fight to make their Country free, no other Nation can do it for them.

You also have to assume that elements in the region will be looking to try and get their folks in too. ISIS/L, AQ, etc. This is far more complicated than Venezuela. The only hope is we can cripple key elements enough for the people to take over.

 

[mdwest]

I can tell you with near 100% accuracy what will happen.

This will gradually deescalate over the next few weeks, just like it did when we launched strikes against Iran's enrichment facilities. The Iranian Chain of Command will be weakened, it's Air Force and Navy reduced to flying kites and paddling canoe's, etc., but the basic leadership, the IRGC and the Basij Militia will remain.

The problem as I see it is not Trump, or the planners at the Pentagon, or Israel, or our allies in the region.

The problem is the people of Iran. In the last 47 years, there has been very little armed resistance to the Regime. Protests? Sure, but holding a sign doesn't seem to be working.

If a people of any Nation don't fight to make their Country free, no other Nation can do it for them.

And that will be exactly what Trump says when the bombing campaign ends in 3-4 weeks...

"we gave them the chance to re-take their nation... they apparently dont want it bad enough to participate.... we did accomplish all of our objectives though... their primary source of income, oil, has been set back for years.. its going to take a few billion dollars of Chinese investment and at least 3-5 years of digging out from under the rubble before Beijing gets another barrel of Iranian oil... and without money, Iran doesnt have much to offer the Houthis, Hamas, or Hezbollah.. we wont be hearing much from them for a while.. and... Irans missile stockpiles and drone stockpiles are all either underneath a mountain of rubble.. or have been expended.. theyre really only a threat to their own people now... and their own people dont seem to want permanent change bad enough.. so... we're out..."

 

[Betterinthebush]

A Pastor I follow, who is also an eschatologist, stated this morning while talking about Iran from a biblical perspective, that the sign of the end times will be when Iran, Turkey, and Russia, all attack Israel.
He did not elaborate how he came to that conclusion.

Gog and Magog

 

[mdwest]

Iran apparently has appointed an Interim Supreme Leader in the wake of the death of the last one..

Not seeing it on AP or Reuters or any reliable news source yet.. but some lessor sources are reporting that the interim has already been killed..

hopefully they'll keep putting hardliners in the seat.. and we'll keep taking them out one by one for the next few weeks until someone figures out that someone not quite so hard line gets to live a little longer than the hardliners do..

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/meet-ayatollah-alireza-arafi-irans-newly-appointed-interim-supreme-leader-after-ayatollah-ali-khamenei-death-iran-us-israel-conflict-11153953

 

[Sideshow]

In March 2025 Houthis attacked the USS Harry Truman.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran...

October 2023 Hamas killed 30 US Citizens in Israel.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran..

1996 Hezbollah attacked the Khobar Towers in KSA and killed 19 USAF personnel.. attack sponsored and paid for by Iran..

June 2025 a wave of state sponsored Iranian cyber attacks were conducted against numerous US networks..

June 2025 - Iranian backed militias launched missiles at 3 US bases in Syria..

March 2025 - US courts convict 2x Iranian agents for plotting to assassinate a US journalist in NY in 2022..

and thats just off the top of my head...

there are literally dozens upon dozens of attacks either conducted by Iran directly or by its sponsored and paid for proxies against the US just in the last 20 years..

and that doesnt begin to count the thousands upon thousands of attacks on US forces (and other coalition forces) in Iraq and Afghanistan during GWOT that were either funded, provided munitions, training, etc.. by the Iranians..

and it was just last year we had to hammer them for once again violating their nuclear agreements and developing nuclear weapons...

anyone that thinks Iran isnt an imminent threat is either a) an idiot.. or b) a politician that thinks they have something to gain by saying such stupid shit..

Be interesting to see how much this affects the war in Ukraine. Russia was using there drones.

 

[mdwest]

Be interesting to see how much this affects the war in Ukraine. Russia was using there drones.

I think short term it hurts Russia.. but there is some probability that long term it actually helps them...

short term theyre losing munitions and drones that they were getting from Iran... Iran needs them for themselves.. and theyre losing tons of them daily due to US and Israeli air strikes..

long term.. China desperately needs oil... and Russia has a surplus that hasnt been getting sold... With Iran oil off the table for the time being, and Venezuelan oil harder for them to get their hands on... I think it is highly likely that they'll turn to Russia and pick up as much surplus as Russia will sell them.. and likely at an inflated price...

Russia will in turn use that money to help recover its economy and to fund its war efforts in Ukraine..

All of this is me speculating... but it seems to make perfect sense in my pea sized brain...

 

[Red Leg]

Be interesting to see how much this affects the war in Ukraine. Russia was using there drones.

They are now producing a copy of the Shahad.

 

[Tanks]

If a people of any Nation don't fight to make their Country free, no other Nation can do it for them.

It is hard to fight with rocks against folks armed with automatic weapons and armored personnel carriers. They tried and 35K died.

I don’t have answers though.