Concealed Carry: Your EDC

I very seldom carry, but its either a S&W mod. 36 or a Walter PP in 7.65mm
 
I suppose like many of you I've carried a number of different "concealed pistols over the years. My first was a Para Ordinance "Companion with the carry option." Its' LDA trigger was and still is one of the best there is. It points normally like all 1911 type pistols. But it is heavy and only holds 7 rounds. I've owned Berettas, Rugers, Glocks, and Sigs but didn't like or stay with them. Several years ago, I was introduced to the Smith & Wesson M & P 2.0 Metal (17 & 1.) From that time on, everything else stays in the safe. She rides in an IWB Kydex holster at 4:00.

When I shot IPSC, my competition guns at that time were a Para Ordnance, P-14 in 45 ACP, and P-16 in 40 S&W. Both handguns were customized by Gun-Doc. During that time I carried a Para P-12 in 45 ACP. The 1911 just felt right in my hands since I was shooting so many rounds through them. During that time I couldn’t hit the side of a barn with any Glock pistol. :ROFLMAO:
 
Nighthawk Firehawk double stack 38 Super, first two out are 147gr double crimp groove HST's at 1251 fps, next 16 are 164gr hard cast flat nosed gas check bullets with a .285" meplat cast from 22 BHN alloy, they clock 1200 fps.

Spare 20 round mag of hard cast rides perfectly fine all day beside a snuff can of Cope in a rear denim pocket.

9mm is good, 38 Super better, 38 Super loaded in very strong Starline 9x23 Winchester Comp brass lit with hard faced small rifle primers better still, thought was, if I was going to carry a 38 Super, make it the best and most effective 35 cal semi auto it can be, the pistol is a dream to shoot with next to no recoil, more accurate than I'll ever be.
 
My son and I have been teaching Kansas Concealed Carry since our state initiated the program in 2006. I am always interested in what people choose to carry and why…if they want to share. After going through many models to include Glocks and Rugers,both of which I like, I finally settled on a Sig Sauer P365 in 9 X 19 with a Urban Carry Lock Leather IWB. Though the barrel is short, I like the micro-compact for concealability IWB at 4 o’clock position. A longer sight radius would be more accurate to shoot but I can shoot inside 12” consistently at 25 yards. Also, since we teach Women’s Basic Handgun, I would be interested in hearing what your wives, girl friends, moms like to carry in terms of model, caliber, semi-auto or revolver.

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Interesting thread.

My EDC pistol since 2009 is a Les Baer SRP full-size 1911 .45 with Winchester Ranger T 230’s or Hornady XTP 200’s. The Federal HST’s are not as accurate in this pistol and are 100 fps slower than the Ranger T’s.

I carried a lot of pistols before trying the Les Baer. Browning Hi-Power, Sigs, Glocks, Kahr, Wilsons, and others that have slipped from memory. Holding the Les Baer, I instantly knew the search was over.

Holsters are like boots, there are endless options. My current set up is to wear a Crossbreed OWB on a Wilderness Instructor belt worn against my skin.

Pants go over this and have another belt on the pants.

This set up does not hang weight on the pants and thus does not pull the pants down.

My wife carries a Glock 19 Gen 3 in a Kramer holster for women. Most of my female students prefer the S&W M&P Compact 9 2.0, followed by the Glock 19, followed by the S&W EZ in either 9mm or .380.
 
Glock 27 Gen 2.5 with a leather Dillon OWB holster and Glock 29 Gen 4 with a new leather Hunter 3600 OWB holster. I prefer black leather OWB holsters and really like the Hunter brand because it’s substantial leather and rides high and spreads the weight over the belt for heavier handguns. Unbeknownst to me until I bought the Hunter, that they’ve been making holsters and leather rifle cases from US steerhide since 1952 in Colorado when they transitioned from Colorado Saddlery. I have no personal or financial interest in their company but it won’t be the last holster I buy from Hunter. Check out their website Huntercompany.com
 

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Glock 27 Gen 2.5 with a leather Dillon OWB holster and Glock 29 Gen 4 with a new leather Hunter 3600 OWB holster. I prefer black leather OWB holsters and really like the Hunter brand because it’s substantial leather and rides high and spreads the weight over the belt for heavier handguns. Unbeknownst to me until I bought the Hunter, that they’ve been making holsters and leather rifle cases from US steerhide since 1952 in Colorado when they transitioned from Colorado Saddlery. I have no personal or financial interest in their company but it won’t be the last holster I buy from Hunter. Check out their website Huntercompany.com
Nice too to get a quality product that is produced in your own state. Sounds like a good combination of weapon and leather.
 
My main carry is a smith and Wesson shield plus in 9 mm but I also alternate with Ruger sp 101 in .357 magnum. But lately I’ve been carrying a Bersa thunder and a thunder plus both in .380 but when I’m in bear country I have a Dan Wesson in .357 magnum. And depending on the occasion I do carry a smith and Wesson mod 36 and a colt detective special too.
 
I have a question. The difference between revolver and SA hand guns. Why more people prefer the SA?
Is it speed of reloading and round capacity?
Or easier to conceal with the revolver being more bulky around the frame?
Cheers
 
I have a question. The difference between revolver and SA hand guns. Why more people prefer the SA?
Is it speed of reloading and round capacity?
Or easier to conceal with the revolver being more bulky around the frame?
Cheers

Just my opinion on preference, why and when I choose to carry a revolver vs a semi automatic.

1. Determine the threat level that may be encounter.
2. Determine the possibility of collateral damage.
3. Situation Dependant: Choose the appropriate type of ammo most likely needed with one magazine or speed loader loaded with personal defense or "heavy" penetration ammo.

Semi autos: are predominantly slimmer, and can hold 0 -10 more rounds than a revolver. Carrying 1-3 extra mags is easier to conceal than 1-3 revolver speedloaders.

Revolvers: more reliable. A "weak" round in a semi auto, the semi auto can jam. A "weak" round in a revolver, the revolver still functions.

Calibers and ballistics: See 2 & 3 above. Bullet diameter to Bullet diameter comparison: Revolvers have better ballistics due to longer case lengths.

Revolvers offer more variety of calibers versus semi autos.

Biggest Difference is personal preference, environment, and attitude.
 
I have a question. The difference between revolver and SA hand guns. Why more people prefer the SA?
Is it speed of reloading and round capacity?
Or easier to conceal with the revolver being more bulky around the frame?
Cheers
Lots of pros and cons… each individual user probably has their own reasons…

The reasons I carry a semi auto include greater capacity, flatter surface (easier to conceal IWB and more comfortable), faster reload, and shorter trigger pull…

I own a few revolvers and occasionally carry them… but not typically with CCW in mind… they’re more for snakes, and other farm/ranch duties..
 
My son and I have been teaching Kansas Concealed Carry since our state initiated the program in 2006. I am always interested in what people choose to carry and why…if they want to share. After going through many models to include Glocks and Rugers,both of which I like, I finally settled on a Sig Sauer P365 in 9 X 19 with a Urban Carry Lock Leather IWB. Though the barrel is short, I like the micro-compact for concealability IWB at 4 o’clock position. A longer sight radius would be more accurate to shoot but I can shoot inside 12” consistently at 25 yards. Also, since we teach Women’s Basic Handgun, I would be interested in hearing what your wives, girl friends, moms like to carry in terms of model, caliber, semi-auto or revolver.
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Generally, I carry a S&W Shield in .40. It's very small and flat, so it's easy to keep.concealled. What I prefer though, when wearing a jacket is not a problem, is.my Kimber Compact in .45. A little heavier and bulkier but I have more confidence in it. Either way, I carry them IWB at about 3:30.
 
I have a question. The difference between revolver and SA hand guns. Why more people prefer the SA?
Is it speed of reloading and round capacity?
Or easier to conceal with the revolver being more bulky around the frame?
Cheers
Good question. I think the best answer would be, “it depends.” My thoughts:

1. Primary defense, antipersonnel: strong advantage to full-size autoloading pistols, particularly considering the possibility of a protracted engagement. Higher capacity, fewer reloads, quicker reloads, and much easier partial reloads. Double action revolver with a speed loader can’t really do a partial reload; have to shoot empty then eject all spent cases and fully reload. But can do a partial reload with speed strips. Single action revolver is basically out for reloading mid fight and you may as well just have two guns. Reiterating again the autoloading pistol has distinct advantages in this regard in pretty much any context. Revolver superiority in reliability is mostly a myth. Revolvers can and do malfunction, and I’ve had it happen more than once, due to parts failures and faulty ammunition. Either revolver or auto (any gun) needs correct pmcs and good ammunition. It’s generally easier to perform appropriate pmcs with modern autoloading pistols, and clearing malfunctions is generally easier too. When a revolver goes down it goes down hard.

2. Primary defense, wildlife: general advantage to full-size revolvers. Typically offer more powerful cartridge choices and more appropriate ammunition selection particularly with factory ammunition. This is one instance in which the revolver may actually prove more reliable if firing with muzzle in contact, e.g., bear is on top of you. Bonus: looks badass wearing in a chest holster in your hunting photos.

3. Backup defense: general advantage to compact revolvers. Considering pocket carry in particular (safety concerns) the small revolver (J-frame) is really tough to beat. Always ready to rock and roll, practically no concern of negligent discharge. Another instance in which the revolver may actually prove more reliable if firing with muzzle in contact, e.g., bad guy is on top of you. Can utilize a full power defensive cartridge. My S&W 340PD .357 Magnum is a good example. This category assumes the premise that you would be carrying something full size for primary defense.

4. Deep concealment: advantage to compact autoloading pistols. Slimmer than any revolver, and we come back to fast reloads and partial reloads being advantageous. There are some great .380 Auto (9mm short) pistols available these days. I like the Glock 42, and my wife does too. Then you have the option for something like the .32 Auto Keltec P32 which is basically unparalleled in conceal-ability while still maintaining reliability and reasonable firepower. This category assumes the premise that you can only carry one gun and it must be concealed and undetectable at all times.

Just remember that everything is a compromise.
 
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Thanks for your in-depth reply’s guys. Few things to mull over.
Only fired a few pistols. Never owned one and never carried one.
Did not know that and auto loader would not work with full muzzle contact.
 
Thanks for your in-depth reply’s guys. Few things to mull over.
Only fired a few pistols. Never owned one and never carried one.
Did not know that and auto loader would not work with full muzzle contact.
See if you can find a local instructor that will help you with the basics and let you try several different pistols BEFORE you buy one. Some ranges have pistols to try out for a modest charge under the expectation you will buy one from them and be a returning customer.
 
I have had a Kansas concealed permit since 2013. I carry a S&W model 49 bodyguard, the blued steel version, loaded with +Ps. I am first, last and always a rifleman don’t care much for pistols. I have a distrust for automatics. In times of high stress the only thing I need to remember is point and pull the trigger. I am a firm believer that the most important thing about being safe is be aware of your surroundings and try not to put yourself in a position where you need that firearm. I had a man shot to death 10ft in front of me, I had my hand in my pocket on the S&W, but did not try to intervene as both men were armed and shooting at each other and I was in the open with no cover.
Mike
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At a minimum I carry a 38 spl 2 shot O/U derringer. Depending on where I'm going and what I might be doing it's paired with either or both 4-5/8" barrel 44 mag revolver and/or 1911, 45 ACP, double stack, semi auto.

Type ammo is also depending on scenario - situation to be expected.
What derringer are you carrying?
 
I have had a Kansas concealed permit since 2013. I carry a S&W model 49 bodyguard, the blued steel version, loaded with +Ps. I am first, last and always a rifleman don’t care much for pistols. I have a distrust for automatics. In times of high stress the only thing I need to remember is point and pull the trigger. I am a firm believer that the most important thing about being safe is be aware of your surroundings and try not to put yourselfin a position where you need that firearm. I had a man shot to death 10ft in front of me, I had my hand in my pocket on the S&W, but did not try to intervene as both men were armed and shooting at each other and I was in the open with no cover.
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I am a firm believer that the most important thing about being safe is be aware of your surroundings and try not to put yourselfin a position where you need that firearm.

Rhetorical Question: Then why did you put yourself in that situation? See below.

I had a man shot to death 10ft in front of me, I had my hand in my pocket on the S&W, but did not try to intervene as both men were armed and shooting at each other and I was in the open with no cover.

Mike

Points made to my previous post ref:

Environment, aka situation awareness.
Collateral damage.

Shit happens when and where one least expects it.

@yamoon I gotta ask:

1. At 10 ft away; In the open; 2 individuals: firing at each other;
Were you or Did you not feel in harms way?

2. Please be honest!

A. Did you not engage because you felt you were not in harms way?

B. You were more afraid of the legal remuffications than protecting yourself and others?

C. You were/are hesitant in killing another human being?

D. All the above.

E. Which combination of above.

At 10 ft. Bullets flying. My Honest Opinion is you failed to engage because of B & C. It's easy to say one is willing to kill another human being. But when shit hits the fan; becoming a real choice. People suddenly hesitate....and that's what gets CCW people injured or killed.

For those that make the hard choice; they have to live with the fact they killed another human being. Some can, Some can't.

Everyone has their own set of morals.
 
What derringer are you carrying?
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Derringer Excam, Model TA 38 Cal, 38 SPL.

This is the one with me this week out camping (took these photos from inside my Jeep. On AH because I couldn't go to sleep and the campfire is fading.LOL). I have another at home. When I remember, when I get home in a couple of weeks I'll post photos of it.

I gladly paid the fellow $40.00 because it was "...a handful for him to shot." It's not. The recoil is no better nor worse than any "snub nose" 38 SPL.

It is what it is....made for close quarters defense/offense. Most state laws allow 20-21 feet. It's relatively unbelievably accurate to 15 yards or 45 feet; aka I can hit center mass on a NRA B-27 Target with both barrels. Not bad for a "belly gun".
 
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