Politics

[CJW]

This is Jackwagon #1.
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This is Jackwagon #2.
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Until Jackwagon #2 (the Basij militia) is eliminated on the ground by people with rifles, eliminating an entire lineup of Jackwagon #1's is going to have little effect in changing the situation in favor of the Iranian people.

So far, I've seen nothing that leads me to believe this is anything more than a very expensive dog and pony show that is NOT going to change the regime in Iran in any meaningful way.

Should Israel mount a ground invasion? I think we all know how that would go over in the Arab World.

Should the U.S. and it's allies put boots on the ground? There is not much evidence that the average American would tolerate that.

Should the surrounding Arab States mount up and do the job? Without the U.S. leading the charge, the chances of that happening are near zero.

The only way forward is for armed Iranians to do the job, but they have nothing to fight with.

There are some rumblings about using the Kurdish areas to form armed groups of Iranians, but that's not likely to make the Kurds themselves happy.

Overthrowing a Government by armed rebellion is a nasty, bloody business, but that really is inevitable at this stage.

For now, I'll just sip my morning coffee and see what Strategic and Tactical plan the leadership whips out.

Sounds like a gauntlet of jackwagons. But I'm like you. I have no idea how this is going to go before ending with a huge disappointment.

 

[Pondoro]

in the US oil is up $6 a barrel and on average gas is up $0.11 a gallon (about 4%) since the weekend...

the question I have for Europe is whether or not gas prices will fall 50% once Qatar LNG opens back up and the Straights of Hormuz become navigable again..

Is this fear increases? Or actual supply-demand increases?

A bit of both I presume...I think it will adjust to normal when Qatar LNG is back.. The energy market is very nervous now..

 

[spike.t]

Qatar says apart from drones and missiles..also shot down 2 Iranian jet fighters....

Trump says US took 'last best chance' to hit Iran, as Qatar reports shooting down Iranian aircraft

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has told MPs the UK "does not believe in regime change from the sky", as he defended the decision not to join the attack on Iran.

www.bbc.com

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

It’s more than obvious that my hunting trip to South Africa this March won’t be happening.
I was supposed to leave on March 6, but quite obviously, because of Donald and other impotent fools like him, I’ll just have to stay home.
Once again, thanks, Donald and company.

 

[spike.t]

And useless piece of shit starmer talking...

Trump says US took 'last best chance' to hit Iran, as Qatar reports shooting down Iranian aircraft

UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer has told MPs the UK "does not believe in regime change from the sky", as he defended the decision not to join the attack on Iran.

www.bbc.com

 

[spike.t]

Usa Getting some real time practice in...

Iran strike marks first combat use of new one-way attack drones https://share.google/P988beHmTuyilPZzz

 

[HookMeUpII]

Guess Kuwait did not get the Friend or Foe signals right.

3 US warplanes shot down by Kuwaiti air defenses, pilots bail out in friendly fire incident, CENTCOM says

www.foxnews.com

I'm betting those were our own air defense systems. I might be wrong though. Definitely not Chinese or Russian like Venezuela or Iran's own.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

This is Jackwagon #1.
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This is Jackwagon #2.
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Until Jackwagon #2 (the Basij militia) is eliminated on the ground by people with rifles, eliminating an entire lineup of Jackwagon #1's is going to have little effect in changing the situation in favor of the Iranian people.

So far, I've seen nothing that leads me to believe this is anything more than a very expensive dog and pony show that is NOT going to change the regime in Iran in any meaningful way.

Should Israel mount a ground invasion? I think we all know how that would go over in the Arab World.

Should the U.S. and it's allies put boots on the ground? There is not much evidence that the average American would tolerate that.

Should the surrounding Arab States mount up and do the job? Without the U.S. leading the charge, the chances of that happening are near zero.

The only way forward is for armed Iranians to do the job, but they have nothing to fight with.

There are some rumblings about using the Kurdish areas to form armed groups of Iranians, but that's not likely to make the Kurds themselves happy.

Overthrowing a Government by armed rebellion is a nasty, bloody business, but that really is inevitable at this stage.

For now, I'll just sip my morning coffee and see what Strategic and Tactical plan the leadership whips out.

To me, of a non-military background, this makes sense. I would enjoy hearing what our other career military folks think. And that's not to take anything away from what happened this weekend - I think I was long overdue, and I applaud the President for being decisive. But what does the future look like for the Iranian people?

 

[Hunt anything]

I heard it was a Patriot system and they were in an active dog fight with planes and drones in the air

 

[HookMeUpII]

I heard it was a Patriot system and they were in an active dog fight with planes and drones in the air

Wow. Well that's a US system. Looks like there is some serious active dogfights going on.

 

[Tanks]

It’s more than obvious that my hunting trip to South Africa this March won’t be happening.
I was supposed to leave on March 6, but quite obviously, because of Donald and other impotent fools like him, I’ll just have to stay home.
Once again, thanks, Donald and company.

Turkish airlines, Lufthansa et al fly to RSA. You still can leave unless you really want to travel through Dubai or Doha. As flights are cancelled you should get a full refund. One has to improvise in life instead of crying “Woe me.”

 

[pilar]

This is Jackwagon #1.
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This is Jackwagon #2.
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Until Jackwagon #2 (the Basij militia) is eliminated on the ground by people with rifles, eliminating an entire lineup of Jackwagon #1's is going to have little effect in changing the situation in favor of the Iranian people.

So far, I've seen nothing that leads me to believe this is anything more than a very expensive dog and pony show that is NOT going to change the regime in Iran in any meaningful way.

Should Israel mount a ground invasion? I think we all know how that would go over in the Arab World.

Should the U.S. and it's allies put boots on the ground? There is not much evidence that the average American would tolerate that.

Should the surrounding Arab States mount up and do the job? Without the U.S. leading the charge, the chances of that happening are near zero.

The only way forward is for armed Iranians to do the job, but they have nothing to fight with.

There are some rumblings about using the Kurdish areas to form armed groups of Iranians, but that's not likely to make the Kurds themselves happy.

Overthrowing a Government by armed rebellion is a nasty, bloody business, but that really is inevitable at this stage.

For now, I'll just sip my morning coffee and see what Strategic and Tactical plan the leadership whips out.

I support the Kurd army in northern Iran and surrounding regions to be boots on the ground for their own independence, however I hope trump doesn’t betray them again
Iranian people and the Kurds should be able to scrape together enough people to eliminate the radical Islamic terror regime

 

[mdwest]

I heard it was a Patriot system and they were in an active dog fight with planes and drones in the air

I think its highly doubtful there was an active dog fight going on (I know a couple of news agencies have reported this)..

The F15E strike eagle isnt the air superiority variant of the Eagle.. its primary purpose is long range precision air to ground and close air support.. and.. they were over Kuwait, very close to their base...

Best guess is there were indeed Iranian drones in the air.. and the Kuwaitis (not exactly known for their competence or professionalism as soldiers) engaged mistakenly as the F15E's were either departing on a mission, or returning home from one...

Its hard to tell from the videos Ive seen, but it doesnt appear that the F15's had any munitions mounted on the pylons.. which would tell me they were most likely returning home after dropping their load in Iran..

 

[Sideshow]

Wonder if they will end up more pissed off with Iran or usa/Israel.....

Allies of US in the Gulf bear brunt of Iran attacks

Iran's attacks on Gulf Arab states suggest the Islamic Republic is targeting not just the US military but also civilian infrastructure.

www.bbc.com

That’s such a bullshit article! Opening pictures caption “Cities in the Gulf states, like Abu Dhabi pictured here, were not built to withstand attacks from drones and ballistic missiles”
For five fecken minutes what bloody city is?
Even Israel which has a very good defence system still gets incoming. Tawt click bate journalism at its worst

 

[Hunt anything]

I keep hearing the democrats saying that Iran is not an imminent threat to the USA, I wish someone would start pointing out all of the 200+ Marines killed in Beirut in 83’ including my best friend from high school. Add every US servicemen and women that have been killed and wounded by Iranian backed forces and Iranian IED’s.
They’ve been a threat ever since 1979 .

 

[spike.t]

That’s such a bullshit article! Opening pictures caption “Cities in the Gulf states, like Abu Dhabi pictured here, were not built to withstand attacks from drones and ballistic missiles”
For five fecken minutes what bloody city is?
Even Israel which has a very good defence system still gets incoming. Tawt click bate journalism at its worst

Yeah I was just wondering as time goes on and they get hit more who they going to be more pissed off with...

 

[steve white]

Why has the US attacked Iran? What we know about the attack and Tehran response

Iran responds by launching missiles and drones towards Israel and four Gulf Arab countries that host US military bases.

www.bbc.com

Sorry, don't do BBC

 

[wesheltonj]

I don’t think there’s any love lost between the Arabs and Persians.

 

[spike.t]

Sorry, don't do BBC

It's an interesting read..quite in depth about a lot of the different issues going on....they are pretty good at some things...shite at others

 

[spike.t]