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It seems that the US are loosing big on defence contracts these days...Europe buy new frigates..from Europe and now this..

Me think it is a sign of the current state of affairs between USA and Europe.
Perhaps its due to Trumps treats around Greenland that they chose South Korean missile launchers over american ones? It also sounds like a good idea to buy a system that will be able to use missiles constructed in Poland instead of in the US.

Since it might also be a risk that Trump who time after time showed that he is unreliable might decide not to sell missiles for american systems to Europe if he feels the need to punish the continent for some real or percieved slight towards him or his grandiose ideas. The rumors surrounding kill switches in the F35s might also hurt american defense exports in general.

Also I have read that South Korea delivers much faster then american defense contractors, and they do seem to have a lot of success in Europe as of late, selling a lot of main battle tanks and self propelled artillery aswell.
 
Perhaps its due to Trumps treats around Greenland that they chose South Korean missile launchers over american ones? It also sounds like a good idea to buy a system that will be able to use missiles constructed in Poland instead of in the US.

Since it might also be a risk that Trump who time after time showed that he is unreliable might decide not to sell missiles for american systems to Europe if he feels the need to punish the continent for some real or percieved slight towards him or his grandiose ideas. The rumors surrounding kill switches in the F35s might also hurt american defense exports in general.

Also I have read that South Korea delivers much faster then american defense contractors, and they do seem to have a lot of success in Europe as of late, selling a lot of main battle tanks and self propelled artillery aswell.

Being fast available and the fact that the missiles made in Europe secured the contract..
 

It seems that the US are loosing big on defence contracts these days...Europe buy new frigates..from Europe and now this..

Me think it is a sign of the current state of affairs between USA and Europe.
Me thinks it’s just the EU throwing a temper tantrum over actually being held accountable for the NATO spending that’s been ignored for over a decade.
 
Me thinks it’s just the EU throwing a temper tantrum over actually being held accountable for the NATO spending that’s been ignored for over a decade.

Trump reap what he sow..
 
Ok.. but if we keep Trudeau, you gotta give up two of the hotties.. and I get to pick which ones..

Trump and Carney need to step aside.. this is how trade deals get done!

boobs for boobies.. we can even put a fancy name on the pact once we get it ready for signature... :D

B4B. Methinks someone may have cracked open the bourbon last night…
 
B4B. Methinks someone may have cracked open the bourbon last night…

Will there be tariffs on the boobs or boobies or on both?

Personally, I think we should send them all to Diego Garcia or maybe Antarctic!
 
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As far as I am aware, all of the participants in the Battle of Vienna in 1683 - Poland/Lithuania, Hungary, Bohemia and Moravia, plus a couple others I don't recall - all except Austria, that is, have a very hard line on Muslim immigration and have done for a number of years.

They leared their lesson from the Ottomans.


The winged hussars coming down that hill in the largest cavalry assault in history must have been quite a sight!
 
Trump is working on saving industry ( l.e steel ) strangling the Canadian steel industry
I don’t think we want or need the crappy sand oils in Alberta?
So yeah he’s cutting jobs but it’s in Canada + I don’t think he likes your PM which isn’t good for Canadian workers
The government of Canada is too friendly with Chinese imports and ports for human trafficking from foreign nations
The mess in Georgia is just a distraction

You couldn’t be more wrong about our need for Canadian heavy oil. Our northern tier of refineries are extremely dependent on the Canadians. Check out a crude oil pipeline map for North America.
 
Your last Pm was even worse so maybe lesser of two evils, heck I am on the Mexican border and didnt pay attention to Canada till my sister started working in Vancouver & Toronto,

You missed his point. No one argues the lunacy of Trudeau, but Trumps attack of Canada during their elections had a material effect on the outcome, swinging the results to the current incumbent, a very poor choice indeed.
 
NATO will never be the same after this. And it goes both ways..
 
You missed his point. No one argues the lunacy of Trudeau, but Trumps attack of Canada during their elections had a material effect on the outcome, swinging the results to the current incumbent, a very poor choice indeed.
Carney won by default. The Conservative party self-destructed before the election.
 
Europe reaping what it has sown.

Europe loves to start wars, and then act as if it's the United States that should jump in and do the fighting.
What? Which wars did Europe start? Iraq? No. Afghanistan? No. Venzuela,? No. Gaza? No. Somalia? No. Yemen? No. Ukraine? No. Vietnam? No. WWII? Yes, but that's ancient history. Seems to me nowadays the US is the big war-starter.
 
Europe reaping what it has sown.

Europe loves to start wars, and then act as if it's the United States that should jump in and do the fighting.
This is such a nonfactual statement. In what European conflict after 1900 has "Europe" started a war against a non-European foe? Excluding the Russo-Japanese War, in which we did not participate except as a peacemaker, such a condition has not happened. Therefore, I assume you are trying to say Europeans start wars among themselves in order to see with which powers the US allied itself? You do see how that makes no sense?

So, if I may make a second assumption, you must be talking about both WWI and WWII? We did eventually participate in both those wars, but it was because it was in our national interests to do so - it was never about altruism. One could even make the argument we entered when we did in both cases (late) to minimize our cost and maximize the benefits of victory.

To give some idea of how much Europe suffered in those wars, Britain endured 384,000 military deaths and 70,000 civilian deaths, or about 1% of a population of 47 million. The US suffered 418,000 deaths, the vast majority of whom were military representing only 0.3% of our population. Moreover, Around 150,000 of those US deaths occurred in the Pacific against Japan. British losses actually exceeded ours slightly in Europe (the UK also fought the Japanese alongside the US). Thus, Britain was hardly sitting around letting the US do the fighting. US losses in the First World War were far less proportionately to the UK and France.

I guess I won't include the either the Central Powers of WWI or Axis Powers of WWII, but they were European nations as well and had horrific losses compared to the US.

By the way, it is still in our national interests, particularly economic ones, that Europe remain a friendly market for goods and services moving in both directions. Hence, the enduring value of NATO - a treaty organization this nation created.
 
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I see Trump says he will announce his nominee for Federal Reserve today. Shall we have a pool on her bra size? I'm going with 34 D cup. I'll go with brunette this time. Seems the blonde appointments haven't worked out as well.
 
I have heard Victor Hansen say that the only altruistic nation to fight WWII from 1939 to 1945 was the UK.
 
I have heard Victor Hansen say that the only altruistic nation to fight WWII from 1939 to 1945 was the UK.


If protecting the Empire was altruistic, then yes.
 

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