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those people in Texas whose electricityfees per kilowatt hour have increased a hundredfold (in some cases to 9 USD !!) due to the cold spell and the mismanagement of electricity supplies there,
certainly do not blame Biden when they look at their account.:rolleyes:
 
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Gas prices here in GA where live have jumped 15-20 cents for gas, and 35-45 cents for diesel.

No one said anything about Biden going to Camp David, when he's only been in office less than a month. Oh, and he flew there. How much did that cost?
“He flew there”. In his electric Air Force One?
 

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“He flew there”. In his electric Air Force One?
Every greenie needs to be around Biden's home here in Delaware when he visits. The air is filled with hydrocarbon fueled, global warming, pollution spewing helicopters, jets, and turboprops, press corp planes, Secret Service aircraft and the standard entourage of aides and hangers on. Not sure but it also sounds like fighter aircraft are loitering while he is here and their gas mileage isn't the greatest.
 

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Every greenie needs to be around Biden's home here in Delaware when he visits. The air is filled with hydrocarbon fueled, global warming, pollution spewing helicopters, jets, and turboprops, press corp planes, Secret Service aircraft and the standard entourage of aides and hangers on. Not sure but it also sounds like fighter aircraft are loitering while he is here and their gas mileage isn't the greatest.
“Let them eat cake!” And drive electric cars and freeze to death in the winter when the Green Energy grid collapses!
 

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Hogpatrol,
those people in Texas whose electricityfees per kilowatt hour have increased a hundredfold (in some cases to 9 USD !!) due to the cold spell and the mismanagement of electricity supplies there,
certainly do not blame Biden when they look at their account.:rolleyes:
you don't really seem to know much about what is going on in Texas. Our government doesn't do a lot, and what it does do, it frequently does very poorly (as all governments do).

when private industry fails in some capacity, lefties are always "see, i told you so"

when government fails, which is daily, lefties seem never to publicly notice, until the next budget cycle starts, then they insist they only need more money and they'll for sure get it right this time.
 

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Cheer up guys. There is light at the end of the tunnel.

THE NANCY PELOSI PARADE

An assistant to Nancy Pelosi told her she had a fantastic dream last night. There was a humongous parade in Washington celebrating Pelosi.

Millions lined the parade
children were throwing confetti into the air; there were balloons everywhere. It was the biggest celebration Washington had ever seen.

Nancy was very impressed and said,
"That's really great! By the way, how did I look in your dream? Was my hair okay?

Her assistant said, "I couldn't tell, the
casket was closed.”
 

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Before all this green hype I would regularly grumbled about the control a few oil and gas companies have on the world. Despite the fact that the market dictates pricing, there is still a virtual monopoly on what I must own to live.

If the government had presented their plans as a way to give choice to consumers I wonder if there would be a different discussion? If they subsidized or gave incentives to an industry that would compete with O&G for our business. I strongly suspect the regulatory approach would have been less hostile, mining would emerge as a stable investment and you would have more choice in how you move yourself around this planet.

Just musing about how change could actually be good in the long run if O&G wasn't the dominant industry for transportation and energy etc.
 

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Before all this green hype I would regularly grumbled about the control a few oil and gas companies have on the world. Despite the fact that the market dictates pricing, there is still a virtual monopoly on what I must own to live.

If the government had presented their plans as a way to give choice to consumers I wonder if there would be a different discussion? If they subsidized or gave incentives to an industry that would compete with O&G for our business. I strongly suspect the regulatory approach would have been less hostile, mining would emerge as a stable investment and you would have more choice in how you move yourself around this planet.

Just musing about how change could actually be good in the long run if O&G wasn't the dominant industry for transportation and energy etc.
In the U.S. the solar and the auto industries making hybrid and electric vehicles are de facto subsidized.
Tax credits up to $7500 for certain vehicles. GM and Tesla are excluded. Years ago, wood stove installations were eligible for a $3500 tax credit.

 

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Before all this green hype I would regularly grumbled about the control a few oil and gas companies have on the world. Despite the fact that the market dictates pricing, there is still a virtual monopoly on what I must own to live.

If the government had presented their plans as a way to give choice to consumers I wonder if there would be a different discussion? If they subsidized or gave incentives to an industry that would compete with O&G for our business. I strongly suspect the regulatory approach would have been less hostile, mining would emerge as a stable investment and you would have more choice in how you move yourself around this planet.

Just musing about how change could actually be good in the long run if O&G wasn't the dominant industry for transportation and energy etc.
this assumes both competence and beneficence in government, 2 qualities which governments rarely, if ever, display.
 

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this assumes both competence and beneficence in government, 2 qualities which governments rarely, if ever, display.


In the U.S. the solar and


Who knows? One thing I love about people is that most of them are way smarter than me! That's the power of the liberal democracy, particularly USA, is people are free to think stuff up.
 

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I got to thinking how different the discussion in Canada would have been if our government had reduced our dependency of foreign oil as a first step. And, then encourage the industry by working with all of Canada and First Nations to build supply chains for raw materials. Instead they created a civil war, East against West, and did not inspire anyone. So stupid, but I suppose it got voters out for them.
 

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Before all this green hype I would regularly grumbled about the control a few oil and gas companies have on the world. Despite the fact that the market dictates pricing, there is still a virtual monopoly on what I must own to live.

If the government had presented their plans as a way to give choice to consumers I wonder if there would be a different discussion? If they subsidized or gave incentives to an industry that would compete with O&G for our business. I strongly suspect the regulatory approach would have been less hostile, mining would emerge as a stable investment and you would have more choice in how you move yourself around this planet.

Just musing about how change could actually be good in the long run if O&G wasn't the dominant industry for transportation and energy etc.
I agree that a “blend” of renewable energy and current sources of energy would be beneficial to all at this point in time. I think that is happening currently. Eventually, renewable energy will be the norm. But, the switch to renewables isn’t an “on/off switch “ type proposition as our current geniuses seem to believe it is. They’re attempting to destroy our oil and gas industry and the good jobs that come with it overnight, with no realistic plan to replace that lost energy on a massive scale and no plan on how to replace the huge number of GOOD paying jobs associated with the current industry.
 

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Funny thing is all those talking this renewable game they live at the top of the hill and to be very honest they could care less about the rest of the common folks .
I agree that a “blend” of renewable energy and current sources of energy would be beneficial to all at this point in time. I think that is happening currently. Eventually, renewable energy will be the norm. But, the switch to renewables isn’t an “on/off switch “ type proposition as our current geniuses seem to believe it is. They’re attempting to destroy our oil and gas industry and the good jobs that come with it overnight, with no realistic plan to replace that lost energy on a massive scale and no plan on how to replace the huge number of GOOD paying jobs associated with the current industry.
 

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The battery pack in a Tesla weighs 1200 pounds. I guess the greenies think it doesn't take any energy to haul around that much weight every time that vehicle moves. Who in their right mind would load up their vehicle with a half a ton of lead just to go to the grocery store. On top of that, the Tesla Model S weighs over two tons, the same weight as a full size pickup. So much for saving the planet with electric cars.
 
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