Dangerous Game Rifle Caliber for an Enthusiast

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Buy a used vintage 375hh. Conserve and clean it up a bit yourself. Take it hunting in the USA. It will be an heirloom.

everything else in your budget is something sold by your kids at the estate sale when you take your dirt nap.
 

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I'd agree with everyone on the 375. I've had great experience taking everything up to and including buffalo. If you plan to hand load try the heavy for caliber bullets (350gr), not much you can't do with that combo. Also agree with a couple threads on vintage gun...that can mean many things, but find one that's done really right, spend more than you thought you ever would and never look back. It's a rifle if you buy it right the first time it will be with you your entire life.
 

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Captain Munro, the 375 H&H is a long and storied caliber in Africa. I used to own a LH Mod. 70 Safari Express, but was forced to sell it for financial reasons many years ago. The 375 H&H recoil is not too bad from a recoil standpoint. I used to shoot stout 300gr loads through it and it was less abusive than shooting my .338 WM using 250gr bullets.

I suffer from the affliction of being left handed, so my choices were very limited. I was looking at a 375 H&H, but then I had a chance to get a .416 Rem. Mag. I still haven’t shot it yet. So I do not know what the difference is regarding recoil.
 

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Captain Munro, the 375 H&H is a long and storied caliber in Africa. I used to own a LH Mod. 70 Safari Express, but was forced to sell it for financial reasons many years ago. The 375 H&H recoil is not too bad from a recoil standpoint. I used to shoot stout 300gr loads through it and it was less abusive than shooting my .338 WM using 250gr bullets.

I suffer from the affliction of being left handed, so my choices were very limited. I was looking at a 375 H&H, but then I had a chance to get a .416 Rem. Mag. I still haven’t shot it yet. So I do not know what the difference is regarding recoil.
375 H&H is fantastic I agree. The recoil from the 416 Rigby was a substantial increase over the 375 H&H in the same type of rifle. It wasn't horrific, but it is a big step up.

Puts a smile on your face immediately, if you didn't get a concussion .
 

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Captain Munro, the 375 H&H is a long and storied caliber in Africa. I used to own a LH Mod. 70 Safari Express, but was forced to sell it for financial reasons many years ago. The 375 H&H recoil is not too bad from a recoil standpoint. I used to shoot stout 300gr loads through it and it was less abusive than shooting my .338 WM using 250gr bullets.

I suffer from the affliction of being left handed, so my choices were very limited. I was looking at a 375 H&H, but then I had a chance to get a .416 Rem. Mag. I still haven’t shot it yet. So I do not know what the difference is regarding recoil.
I own a 375H&H and recently sold my 416RM and both were on the same platform, the Blaser R8.

The 416RM fully kitted out came in at just over 13# with scope, ammo and sling. Recoil was significantly more than my previous experience with a 375H&H but still very tolerable. I ended up selling it because I realized that for the number of times I'm likely to hunt Africa, the 375H&H was enough gun for me. Here is a video of me shooting the 13# 416RM.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kjsRWV2RDmdVS6sd6

This video is me shooting a 375H&H that weighs 7.75# bare rifle. After having shot the 416 for quite a while, it felt like a pellet gun. When I added the scope, ammo and sling it weighs just over 10#.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/kuuLWpfdf5FUuSyE7

For a rifle being carried much more than it's shot, I'll tolerate the recoil and walk a whole lot farther with a lighter rifle.
 

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375 H&H is fantastic I agree. The recoil from the 416 Rigby was a substantial increase over the 375 H&H in the same type of rifle. It wasn't horrific, but it is a big step up.

Puts a smile on your face immediately, if you didn't get a concussion .

Spoken like a true Canadian. It’s no wonder we have a smile on our faces heading to the penalty box after a good fight!
 

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Spoken like a true Canadian. It’s no wonder we have a smile on our faces heading to the penalty box after a good fight!


I think my cousin Leroy Gorski led the WHL in fights and penalty minutes for years with the
e Saskatoon blades lol. His brother Sheldon still coaches hockey in the states, and is in the east coast hockey League hall of fame.

Leroy would have loved the 458 Lott and the 416, 470.
 
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I also was looking for a rifle like you are, and bought myself the Winchester model 70 Safari Express In .375 H&H. I mounted a 1.5-5 Leupold scope on it and will load slightly reduced North American loads for local hunting. Great rifle and cartridge.
 

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