Politics

Brent in Az said:

I didn't hear Hanoi Jane flapping her pie hole when Obama was dropping bombs and pallets of taxpayer cash.
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Jane Fonda is a real piece of work.

Marine 1 said:

I like Mullin, he will do a great job. Are you from Oklahoma? I was raised in Broken Bow a long time ago.

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Broken Bow is a beautiful area.

Yes. OKC metro.

Sideshow said:

@spike.t Maybe the UK government can send him on his way like this!?

Failed asylum seeker families to be offered up to £40k to leave

The home secretary says the "incentives" will deliver a "significant saving to the taxpayer".

www.bbc.co.uk

Can set up digs next to you eh

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Mmmm....you trying to piss me off....

Marine 1 said:

Jane Fonda is a real piece of work.

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She's a real piece of something.

A fence post would be better than Lankford.

If Paxton can do this and get the Save Act passed it might exceed anything he would ever be able to do as a Senator.

Wheels said:

Broken Bow is a beautiful area.

Yes. OKC metro.

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That was way back in the 60s. It has all changed very much. It is very tourist like Branson. I own property but have no real ties to the area.

Marine 1 said:

CH46 is not a Chinook. I'm not flaunting anything. I am just saying killing a human being is horrible, something you will live with for the rest of your life. I don't take the responsibility lightly. I am sorry if my view upsets you. I really don't even know how we got to this. Everyone who has been in the military especially the Marine Corps are a brotherhood. If you have served in combat that is another group altogether. I just commented that saying you will do something and doing it are two different things. Have you been in combat, not just a war zone but in combat. Now, let's move on.

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Mmm...need to wind your neck in a bit me thinks, and do a bit of research on members here...you are new....so relax and go with the flow ..

I know bugger all about helicopters...but doesn't seem too different....just saying...

Marine 1 said:

CH46 is not a Chinook. I'm not flaunting anything. I am just saying killing a human being is horrible, something you will live with for the rest of your life. I don't take the responsibility lightly. I am sorry if my view upsets you. I really don't even know how we got to this. Everyone who has been in the military especially the Marine Corps are a brotherhood. If you have served in combat that is another group altogether. I just commented that saying you will do something and doing it are two different things. Have you been in combat, not just a war zone but in combat. Now, let's move on.

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I wish you had posted this during cocktail time so I could enjoy the response with a adult beverage.

deewayne2003 said:

Sounds like you would stand by her side and argue for $20hr minimum wage and to make Medicare stop paying for Viagra and demand free abortions for ALL….

I literally watched this woman scream that at a congressman’s town hall!

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Not likely, I am pretty confident only thing I agree with her is property taxes and I do live on a simple income from my wells , cattle and retirement from the hunting and fishing industries,
If she owes property in California , and has a California Karen attitude then I would say she can go get buggered in the bumm .
I am adamantly opposed to people who demand entitlement for their children on the long hard work of their neighbors! ( I’m a get off my lawn and leave me alone type person)
I hate that the school district actually owns my home and I have to pay rent to them every year in the form of school taxes,
My wife’s family is from Chickasaw Oklahoma and owns land there, so we pay Oklahoma income taxes ( I don’t like paying 11% of our income for a place where we don’t live ) , I guess I should be put in the strange bird category for not wanting to pay for stuff other people feel entitled to, free education, welfare, housing, healthcare,
And don’t get me started on the public scammers who are on the Lonestar card and HUD housing, & the people who skip on their school loans!!!

spike.t said:

Mmm...need to wind your neck in a bit me thinks, and do a bit of research on members here...you are new....so relax and go with the flow ..

I know bugger all about helicopters...but doesn't seem too different....just saying...

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Well, one can carry 24 troops inside, and has a max lift capacity of about 7,000#, the other carries 35-55 inside, and it's max lift is about 24,000#, but other than that, yeah. Exactly the same.

They are as different as chalk and cheese.

Not saying I agree with everything the OP said, just want to clear the air on the airframes. And yes, I've flown inside one of them, and yes, I've stood underneath one of them rigging up an external load. All things considered, I'd rather rig up a CH-53, but that's a whole 'nother Oprah.

Wheels said:

If Paxton can do this and get the Save Act passed it might exceed anything he would ever be able to do as a Senator.

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Getting rid of the filibuster is the worst thing one can do.

Imagine if Democrats were able to do that during the Bidan Presidency. Abortion on demand, 2A gutted, SCOTUS reset, citizenship for all illegals, wealth tax and higher income taxes, Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico and maybe even Guam, elimination of private insurance etc., etc..

We would have had every leftist wish list implemented. And with the Statehoods mentioned above it would have guaranteed a Democratic electoral majority and Senate majority at every election.

Brent in Az said:

I didn't hear Hanoi Jane flapping her pie hole when Obama was dropping bombs and pallets of taxpayer cash.
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Wasn’t the cash seized cash from the regime? I don’t think it was from the taxpayers pocket. I’m open to being corrected though

Marine 1 said:

CH46 is not a Chinook. I'm not flaunting anything. I am just saying killing a human being is horrible, something you will live with for the rest of your life. I don't take the responsibility lightly. I am sorry if my view upsets you. I really don't even know how we got to this. Everyone who has been in the military especially the Marine Corps are a brotherhood. If you have served in combat that is another group altogether. I just commented that saying you will do something and doing it are two different things. Have you been in combat, not just a war zone but in combat. Now, let's move on.

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Welcome aboard!
We are here in reference to your question above, because you, a F-ing New Guy (FBG) around here asked a respected former Marine and retired LEO this,

Marine 1 said:

Have you ever killed someone?

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Allow me to introduce our resident Army Major General and Brigade Commander who politely advised you that you are in a very experianced and equally humble crowd on this forum.

Red Leg said:

You have a lot of combat veterans in this dialogue, most of whom, particularly our SOF members, did at least as much as drive a Chinook. Not many either flaunt it or try to use it to shut down conversation. All of us honor your service.

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Me, I never killed anyone but I did whatever duties the Corps assigned me well enough that I made Gunnery Sergeant, CWO-3, and Captain before my hip gave out at 21 years of active duty service. I did however serve with many Vietnam, Panama, Beirut, and Korean War USMC combat vets. Those were my mentors who schooled me on leadership, attention to detail, taking care of my men and so on. Among them were snipers, and a few others whose bodies looked like a patchwork quilt for all their scars. To a man and there were scores of them, many with the V device for Valor, I've never heard any talk as you have written. Never.

Oh, thanks for your service Devil Dog!

PS: Along the way I had conversations with Carlos Halfcock, Jim Mattis, Norm Chandler, and many with David Willis. For the most part, they talked and I listened except Mattis for he is inquisitive. I believe once while manning a technology display at a Marine reunion I met Eugene Sledge author of "With the Old Breed" and a protagonist in the TV series The Pacific, …. No kidding!

SaintPanzer said:

Well, one can carry 24 troops inside, and has a max lift capacity of about 7,000#, the other carries 35-55 inside, and it's max lift is about 24,000#, but other than that, yeah. Exactly the same.

They are as different as chalk and cheese.

Not saying I agree with everything the OP said, just want to clear the air on the airframes. And yes, I've flown inside one of them, and yes, I've stood underneath one of them rigging up an external load. All things considered, I'd rather rig up a CH-53, but that's a whole 'nother Oprah.

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As said I know bugger all about them....

wesheltonj said:

I wish you had posted this during cocktail time so I could enjoy the response with a adult beverage.

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Was cocktail time here

Tanks said:

Getting rid of the filibuster is the worst thing one can do.

Imagine if Democrats were able to do that during the Bidan Presidency. Abortion on demand, 2A gutted, SCOTUS reset, citizenship for all illegals, wealth tax and higher income taxes, Statehood for DC and Puerto Rico and maybe even Guam, elimination of private insurance etc., etc..

We would have had every leftist wish list implemented. And with the Statehoods mentioned above it would have guaranteed a Democratic electoral majority and Senate majority at every election.

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That’s not what I said at all.

Let the filibuster work the way it was intended and the way it used to work. If Senators want to talk let them talk till they drop and take a vote. That way all Senators are on the spot with their vote. Don’t let them hide behind the threat of a filibuster and do nothing for months and let a bill die.

In regards to the Save Act if reports are correct, Tillis, Collins, Murkowski and Curtis are the hold outs. Let the Democrats talk for weeks if they want then take a vote. Will 51 Senators actually vote against a 85-15 issue the American people support.

I would much rather let the Democrats talk 24/7 for a few weeks than let Tillis work 2.5 days a week and spend part of that time MC’ing a Senate dog show while he hides behind a fake filibuster.

spike.t said:

Was cocktail time here

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Remember, it's 5 O'clock somewhere

Wheels said:

That’s not what I said at all.

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I was referring to the comment by Paxton. He wants to abolish the filibuster in its entirety.

Marine 1 said:

I served 19 months in Vietnam as a Marine CH46 helicopter pilot, MOS 7562.

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Then conduct yourself like an officer (Marine) not some boorish malcontent.