Where Has All The .416 Ruger Guide Guns Gone?

Sort of like saying Ford is the only one making F-150 pickups.
Close. But more like saying Ford is the only one who makes F-150 pickups, and you have to buy gas for it from Shell stations only. Or you can make your own gas from components and put it in gas can made only by Shell.
 
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I really do not know where the myth came from that .375 Ruger is hard to find. AmmoSeek shows four full pages for sale now. Swift loads it along with many custom manufacturers as well. I find it funny there is this sentiment on a forum where most everyone has some big bore rifles none of which would have ammo on the shelf at the local gun shop.
 
I’d like to agree with you but the facts don’t speak that way.

Quick search on GB finds 7 rifles chambered in 375RUGER by three companies. The other 393 are from Ruger.

AmmoSeek.com shows 350 results for 375RUGER ammo, EVERY SINGLE ONE from Hornady.

If this cartridge were gaining in popularity, there would be at least 10 rifle companies and five making premium ammo for it. And If it were truly that much better than the 375H&H, this would not be the case. As it is, Ruger & Hornady are just about it for the 375RUGER.
Sure but popularity is relative here. We are talking about a big bore cartridge not a deer gun or a man bun flavor of the month cartridge.
So a unicorn has four full pages of ammo for sale on AmmoSeek?
How many custom .375 Rugers are being built? I hear of many. It seems everyone thinks they need a custom rifle for Africa!
I am all for nostalgia but the fact is that the .375 Ruger is a superior cartridge and is here to stay.
 
The .375Ruger is here to stay and for those that opine about ammo availability, consider these Ammo Seek results......

.375Ruger = 343 listings of which 339 are Hornady brand

Compared to....

.404J = 71 listings of which 65 are Hornady brand

So .375Ruger has 4.8X more listings that .404J and we know .404J isn't going anywhere and the only factory chambered rifles I know of in .404J are Heym & Rigby.
 
As a 338 RCM shooter, I understand the pain in this thread of being a victim of the Ruger/Hornady partnership...

Now where did I put my 480 Redhawk?!?! I left it around here somewhere...
 
I wish norma would make ammo and brass for the 375 ruger and 416 ruger hornady ammo and brass sucks dont trust it .I want to turn my tang safety ruger 77 7 mm mag into a 416 ruger but I will wait till someone else makes brass and ammo .Hornady is the worlds worse about dumping calibers and their brass is total crap . I have had nothing but problems with their bullets dies ammo and brass .
 
I wish norma would make ammo and brass for the 375 ruger and 416 ruger hornady ammo and brass sucks dont trust it .I want to turn my tang safety ruger 77 7 mm mag into a 416 ruger but I will wait till someone else makes brass and ammo .Hornady is the worlds worse about dumping calibers and their brass is total crap . I have had nothing but problems with their bullets dies ammo and brass .
Buy some of the ADG 375 Ruger brass advertised here by Raven Rocks. ADG did a limited production run but I managed to obtain some recently. I agree Hornady brass quality can be sub optimal and expect much greater consisrency from the ADG.
 
Really, where have all these rifles gone? I am in need of a stock, .416 Ruger Guide Gun with Green Mountain Laminate stock.
If you are interested in selling, I am interested in purchasing.
Would like to see pictures including serial number and caliber stamped on the barrel.
Optics are an option

Thank you
I have stated this many times in the past, well built rifles last several life times, a dilemma for rifle builders, so how to do create demand...simple discredit the old standbys and create a new cartridge resulting in new rifles to buy. When I did my brown bear hunt in Alaska I used a guide that I saw on TV who handle a couple of big shots with ruger. The ruger guide gave several ruger rifles to the a couple of the guides and their family. I examined the 37 RUGER cartridge and they so closely resemble the 375HH that I was fond of. I don't think a 100 ft or so makes a difference to who ever catches the bullet and the same goes with the length of bolt pull.. When I did a caribou hunt several years earlier in out of Aniak Ak the town store only carried several rifle and shotgun shells, specifically 30-06, 375, 45-70 223 and 22lr along with 12g, if you arrived without one of those calibers you need to find a spear. those new cartridges will fade in the future so you better stock up on the brass
 
I’d like to agree with you but the facts don’t speak that way.

Quick search on GB finds 7 rifles chambered in 375RUGER by three companies. The other 393 are from Ruger.

AmmoSeek.com shows 350 results for 375RUGER ammo, EVERY SINGLE ONE from Hornady.

If this cartridge were gaining in popularity, there would be at least 10 rifle companies and five making premium ammo for it. And If it were truly that much better than the 375H&H, this would not be the case. As it is, Ruger & Hornady are just about it for the 375RUGER.
Yep, the weak link with these Ruger cartridges, as well as the previous .300 and .338 Ruger Compact Magnums and MANY current smaller cartridges, is the proprietary aspect of Hornady design and monopoly on manufacturing factory ammo and reloading brass. If Norma would/could produce at least the brass for these cartridges it might encourage more rifle manufacturers to chamber their already produced long action receiver rifles with 20” barrels for these cartridges. Probably won’t happen but the .375 and .416 Ruger cartridges are well designed for optimum velocity out of the shorter barrels.
 
Yep, the weak link with these Ruger cartridges, as well as the previous .300 and .338 Ruger Compact Magnums and MANY current smaller cartridges, is the proprietary aspect of Hornady design and monopoly on manufacturing factory ammo and reloading brass. If Norma would/could produce at least the brass for these cartridges it might encourage more rifle manufacturers to chamber their already produced long action receiver rifles with 20” barrels for these cartridges. Probably won’t happen but the .375 and .416 Ruger cartridges are well designed for optimum velocity out of the shorter barrels.
ADG makes 375 Ruger brass now, and it’s tough as nails. Lot of guys are using it for full length wildcatting of the larger bores (35, 458, etc)
 
ADG makes 375 Ruger brass now, and it’s tough as nails. Lot of guys are using it for full length wildcatting of the larger bores (35, 458, etc)
That’s good to know. Thanks.
 
Picked up a 300 RCM left hand for areally good price....took it to my gunsmith set the barrel back rebored it to 300 WSM. Good until I shoot it out or change my mind about the caliber.
 
Really, where have all these rifles gone? I am in need of a stock, .416 Ruger Guide Gun with Green Mountain Laminate stock.
If you are interested in selling, I am interested in purchasing.
Would like to see pictures including serial number and caliber stamped on the barrel.
Optics are an option

Thank you
With any gun or ammo they do production runs of large quanities at a time. You just have to wait until they do a production run. They obviously do the most popular stuff first and most often. People like us just have to wait longer between those runs of less popular stuff. The positive thing now is that they are catching up or caught up on the popular stuff and we should start seeing more of the less popular stuff being produced.
 
I wish norma would make ammo and brass for the 375 ruger and 416 ruger hornady ammo and brass sucks dont trust it .I want to turn my tang safety ruger 77 7 mm mag into a 416 ruger but I will wait till someone else makes brass and ammo .Hornady is the worlds worse about dumping calibers and their brass is total crap . I have had nothing but problems with their bullets dies ammo and brass .
You might want to figure out what you are doing wrong. Not a lot of difference in various name brands of ammo and brass in my opinion.
 
When you cant get primers in primer pockets or able to size brass without it buckling you will see the difference quick . LAPUA and Norma are awesome work smooth as butter .I have buckets full of unloadable hornady once fired brass .
 
What exactly is a "guide gun" ? Most PH's I know shoot .416 somethings or bigger, usually in a CZ or M70 or Ruger RSM or a double of some sort.....

You need a "hunter's gun"...
 
The 416 Ruger is becoming super popular I wish i had snagged one .I want someone besides hornady to make brass and ammo for it .
 
The 416 Ruger is becoming super popular I wish i had snagged one .I want someone besides hornady to make brass and ammo for it .
Adg did 375 ruger brass. You can always neck it up or call and ask if they have plans to do 416 ruger. They seem to be the ones wanting to do new stuff and less popular stuff.
 
I was in Alaska 5 months last summer saw tons of 375 Rugers didnt see a single 416 ruger mostly because there was no ammo to be found .I think it will change as ammo shows up .
 
I was in Alaska 5 months last summer saw tons of 375 Rugers didnt see a single 416 ruger mostly because there was no ammo to be found .I think it will change as ammo shows up .

You nailed it! Not enough ammo available. But why is that?

Ruger is and has always been the company that does the research to produce products to fill quantifiable market needs. There have however been a few exceptions to this.
  • When Bill Ruger was alive his company produced the Gold Label side by side shotgun. Ruger employs the most modern, cost saving manufacturing techniques and CMC machinery which for soldering side by side barrels to the ribs wasn’t nearly as sound as hand soldering. I knew hunters who had to send their Gold Labels back to Ruger more than once!
  • Another example was the Ruger Safari Magnum. I don’t have their accounting records but rumor is Ruger lost money on every RSM produced. Maybe they did but sometimes a company needs a flagship model for nothing more that marketing. I don’t have the data to prove or disprove this.
  • Another exception to this may be the 416 Ruger.
Back to the .375 and .416 Ruger cartridges. They are outstanding, efficient, non-belted, standard length cartridges designed to fill a niche rather than a need. What! How dare I state such a thing?

Well-built rifles in large calibers are not shot very much and with care, last for a hunter’s lifetime and then some!

Good point but magnum length actions are best for the other, established (popular) cartridges in these calibers (as in bore sizes, not cartridges). The excellent but not so popular .416 Taylor and Dakota are the standard length exceptions to this.

Why try to produce a few hundred magnum actions per year? Equipment set up costs allocated across those few hundred actions would nearly double their price. That is if the manufacturer desired to at least break even on the actions! For a gun manufacturer such as Ruger, the 416 Ruger rifles built on standard length actions is clearly a great idea!

Other market factors are,
  • The 375 H&H cartridge is 115 years old and should be available long after the readers of this are all in our happy hunting grounds. It is a do it all cartridge with manageable recoil and fine accuracy!
  • The 416 Rigby, Remington, and Taylor are purpose cartridges for dangerous game. The first two produce 50% more recoil on paper than a similar rifle in 375 H&H. The Taylor is the sweetheart of the group producing 96% of the energy of the bigger boys with less recoil, and in a standard length action!
    • The 416 group is however far less popular than the 375 H&H. I don't have any data but I think there are 10-times more 375 H&H rifles in use worldwide than 416 rifles.
    • The question is, with a small market share is there a need for another 416 cartridge?
Ammoseek dot com lists on 18 January 2026 the following for available ammunition,
  • For 375 Ruger, there are 494 listings of available Hornady ammunition, and five from Choice Ammunition, and one from Swift. If you like Hornady ammo you are in business!
  • For 416 Ruger there are about 60 listings for Hornady and five for Choice Ammunition.
For virgin brass for loading one’s own ammunition, Ammoseek lists these,
  • 375 Ruger, there are 16 listings for Hornady and ADG brass.
  • 416 Ruger, there are 11 listings for Hornady brass.
For the available brass, one should stock up now because in six months when you need it, this brass may not be available.

For available rifles, Gunbroker lists,
  • 247 total listings for rifles chambered for 375 Ruger from five manufacturers.
    • 375 Ruger-made rifles, there are 96 listings. The Buy it Now fixed price option start at $1,200.
    • That’s an attractive price for a dangerous game rifle!
  • 416 Ruger rifles, there in only four listings of which three are Ruger-made rifles. None are available via Buy it Now.
The data above of available rifles, albeit from a small sample set, indicates a strong following for the 375 Ruger. Not so much for the 416 Ruger. If one can’t find 416 Ruger rifles or ammo, it is probably because this cartridge is not popular. Perhaps this is because the 416 cartridges have never been as popular as the 375 H&H!

The above information is what it is. If the 416 Ruger was developed and marketed before Ruger re-introduced their 416 Rigby Safari Magnum Rifle, it may today be the most popular 416 cartridge! Timing is everything!
 
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