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Worse yet are the Billions of dollars the US and the UN continues to send to Afghanistan. The US position that none of the money gets to Taliban is laughable.

The UN and US money goes to the Afghanistan central bank, ( which is controlled by the Taliban) which holds auctions for the US dollar. Their version of NGOs (only Taliban friendly NGOs) then buy them from the Afghanistan Central Bank.

Move the money out of the country then back into Taliban hands. This is not speculative. It’s a fact. We are actually paying for al-Qaeda regrouping and training for the next attacks. Hamza is much more savvy than his father was.

www.ndtv.com

Osama Bin Laden's Son Hamza Alive, Leading Al Qaeda In Afghanistan: Report

The report warned that warning that "under his command, Al Qaeda is regrouping and preparing for future attacks on Western targets".
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Altitude sickness said:
Hopefully Chris Van Hollen and the other utopian, fantasy world leftists keep the media focused on the MS 13 dirtbag. And fighting “Oligarchy”. :LOL:

And off of the tariffs

Chris Van Hollen is the classic Pie in the sky democrat. The El Salvador presidente should ask if he wants to personally meet more MS 13 members in their group cells. Put him in a cell with them for an hour or so. Since he’s fine with them living amongst his constituents.
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Just some "good ole boys" enjoying a few drinks in the tropics. Doesn't look like prison garb or location to me. So....if El Salvador wants to release him from CECOT, that's their business..... Oh well....lets bring the little gang banger back....buy him a house in Van Hollen's neighborhood...set up a "go fund me" for him. Americans voted for this fool senator and put him in office....we get what we vote for.
 
jruby said:
Sending someone to a foreign prison without a conviction or due process sure seems to go against our country's laws. Seems more like a police state like Russia.
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Yes and more so, NO.

The USA sent a illegal foriegn national back to his home country.
The illegal alien's home country put him in prison because they consider him a MS-13 gang leader.

If you want to provide room and board for illegal aliens in the USA who are suspected or convicted criminal gang leaders, please contact your local Democrate Party leadership. Maybe they could also host a few illegal aliens? :)
 
Mark A Ouellette said:
Yes and more so, NO.

The USA sent a illegal foriegn national back to his home country.
The illegal alien's home country put him in prison because they consider him a MS-13 gang leader.

If you want to provide room and board for illegal aliens in the USA who are suspected or convicted criminal gang leaders, please contact your local Democrate Party leadership. Maybe they could also host a few illegal aliens? :)
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He’s a democrat. What do you expect? :)
 
The US ( Trump ) adminstration determined him a criminal even though a judge within his power provided him protected status in a US court and he has no criminal convictions. Thinking someone is guilty of a crime has never in itself been sufficent to imprison some one. If someone thinks you are guilty and that is enough to be imprisoned then we should all be getting nervous.

As far as supporting him he was providing a service and making a living he did not need to be supported.
 
jruby said:
Sending someone to a foreign prison without a conviction or due process sure seems to go against our country's laws. Seems more like a police state like Russia.
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Deporting foreign criminals is just like Russia now?

Man, I wish democrats cared this much about the real Americans being harmed by illegal immigrants and cross border gangs.
 
the real problem as i see it,

how does one let in 10+ million illegals to this country with no vetting OR "due process" and then.....

get them out of the country WITH each one getting "due process?" and not overrunning the justice system at the additional cost of billions (and yes we already spend billions on them) and literally decades of court battles, etc?

so now we give illegal entrants more rights than the LEGAL entrants that stood in line and did it right?

btw, the "maryland dad" did get due process, 2 separate courts found him a MS13 member and he had a deportation order on him. the judge that wanted him returned is just being a jack wagon. the judges daughter i believe gets paid for representing illegals in some fashion.
 
jruby said:
The US ( Trump ) adminstration determined him a criminal even though a judge within his power provided him protected status in a US court and he has no criminal convictions. Thinking someone is guilty of a crime has never in itself been sufficent to imprison some one. If someone thinks you are guilty and that is enough to be imprisoned then we should all be getting nervous.

As far as supporting him he was providing a service and making a living he did not need to be supported.
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So, are you offering to host this illegal alien in your house? If not, remember he is an illegal alien who broke US law by entering this country illegally. Him being a MS-13 gang leader should scare the crap out of any same person, especially those with daughters!

Finally, the President sets foriegn policy for the USA, not judges.
 
Mark A Ouellette said:
So, are you offering to host this illegal alien in your house? If not, remember he is an illegal alien who broke US law by entering this country illegally. Him being a MS-13 gang leader should scare the crap out of any same person, especially those with daughters!

Finally, the President sets foriegn policy for the USA, not judges.
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No proof of him being a MS13 gang leader. If you do show me.
 
1dirthawker said:
btw, the "maryland dad" did get due process, 2 separate courts found him a MS13 member and he had a deportation order on him. the judge that wanted him returned is just being a jack wagon. the judges daughter i believe gets paid for representing illegals in some fashion.
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It’s definitely a weird cause for the democrats to be so hung up on. It’s the same kind of tone deaf nonsense that cost them the election.

We’ll see how that works for them in the midterms. Much is made about Trump self immolating but the fact the dems have, apparently, managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory twice causes me to wonder if they have enough self awareness to actually make gains in the midterms. I’m unconvinced based on their political focus thus far.

The average American doesn’t consider the fate of an illegal alien, gang member to be of great constitutional import since they are neither of those things yet I see democrats trying to frame this in a “if it can happen to him it can happen to you” light. The average American voter is neither of those things, so why should they care?

Yet they paint this as a crisis that will somehow end in actual Americans getting sent abroad and a devolution into a Russian style police state. I think this is a losing issue for them. The right is happy to see him deported and the middle doesn’t care. Only the far left sees themselves in a wife-beating, member of ms-13.
 
Rocked and Loaded said:
It’s definitely a weird cause for the democrats to be so hung up on. It’s the same kind of tone deaf nonsense that cost them the election.

We’ll see how that works for them in the midterms. Much is made about Trump self immolating but the fact the dems have, apparently, managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory twice causes me to wonder if they have enough self awareness to actually make gains in the midterms. I’m unconvinced based on their political focus thus far.

The average American doesn’t consider the fate of an illegal alien, gang member to be of great constitutional import since they are neither of those things yet I see democrats trying to frame this in a “if it can happen to him it can happen to you” light. The average American voter is neither of those things, so why should they care?

Yet they paint this as a crisis that will somehow end in actual Americans getting sent abroad and a devolution into a Russian style police state. I think this is a losing issue for them. The right is happy to see him deported and the middle doesn’t care. Only the far left sees themselves in a wife-beating, member of ms-13.
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Except Trump is openly talking about it now!
 
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