- Feb 16, 2016
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- South Africa
- Namibia, South Africa
Everyone in my family has survived a Covid infection. It affected some of us worse than others, but no one had to be hospilitized (9 people - ages 20-84).
I wish an authority would release some data on how immune previously Covid infected people are against a re-infection.
Anecdotal evidence says that people like me are more immune than vaccinated people, and we risk more harmful side effects by taking the shots than people who have not had the virus.
The real truth has been difficult to discern throughout this whole pandemic, because it seems like politics are much more important than real evidence or science.
Heck - I am a scientist (biologist/toxicologist), and I have no idea about what the data actually indicates!
Lots of stories from folks claiming to have had Covid 2 or 3 times. Stories mostly I suspect. If they were not diagnosed or tested to prove it, they have no idea.I just had a highly scientific discussion with a lady in line at WalMart who told me she had covid three times. Her story seemed believable. You would think there would be a little more immunity. Also, she said severity was about the same each time.
Yes, the vaccine studies had 40,000 to 70,000 people in each study. That’s way more than anything I witnessed or heard about in college. How many people in each study do you anti-vaxers need?? Geez, get a grip. Nothing in life is 100% safe. Ever read warning labels on simple aspirin or better yet, the drugs your doctors prescribe for anything? Lots of drugs people take every day carry well more risk than vaccines. I had a ridiculous conversation with an anti-vaxer lately who smokes weed and cigarettes. I guess it’s fine to fill your lungs with smoke from something actually burning that causes cancer in some people but not okay to take a vaccine? Ridiculous.
Safari Dave … a blessing your entire family has lived thru & recovered from leveling severities of COVID infections. I like your solid talking points on lack of active immunity discussions & politics. I concur, ‘minimal at best’ on released data regarding Natural Active Immunity or how our own immune system responses & protects against COVID (virals).I wish an authority would release some data on how immune previously Covid infected people are against a re-infection.Anecdotal evidence says that people like me are more immune than vaccinated people, and we risk more harmful side effects by taking the shots than people who have not had the virus.
The real truth has been difficult to discern throughout this whole pandemic, because it seems like politics are much more important than real evidence or science.Heck - I am a scientist (biologist/toxicologist), and I have no idea about what the data actually indicates!
Lol… you’re the one quoting and writing inflammatory things to convince people NOT to get vaccinated. You’ve said way more about vaccinations than I ever have. Review your own posts.This is precisely why some wont go for it. This attitude that some have like, "get a grip". Tell that to the over 12000 people who have died from the vaccines. And the many more who have landed in the hospital with serious adverse side effects.
Tell them to get a grip.
It isnt just about being an anti vaxer, I am not one. I have been getting a flu shot every year since 1998, the last time I had the flu, and have had many other recommended shots for seniors.
But there is just too much govt misinformation, flat out lies, and way too much pressure brought to bear on folks who would rather not participate in this experimental drug testing program and thats what it is, and probably unnecessary.
This attitude some have of "just do it because" is counterproductive. You want folks to get vaxed. Shut the hell up about it and let people make up their own mind in their own time, just like we were a free people with choices, and for the time being we still are.
I can hardly wait for some fool to knock on my door and ask me if I had the shots yet.... that goin be some fun tonight.....
And suppose what she said is exactly correct. Delta has been determined to indeed be more contagious and can be spread by vaccinated people even though it doesn't make them actually sick. I personally don't think masks are particularly helpful, but it doesn't change what may be absolutely legitimate new facts.You don't say..........
“NBC News, citing unnamed officials aware of the decision, reported it comes after new data suggests vaccinated individuals could have higher levels of virus and infect others amid the surge of cases driven by the delta variant of the coronavirus,” the USA Today reported in a passage that was later scrubbed from an article.
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said new data shows the delta variant, which accounts for more than 80% of the new infections in the U.S., behaves ‘uniquely differently’ from its predecessors and could make vaccinated people infectious,” the article notes. “Information on the delta variant from several states and other countries indicates that in rare occasions some vaccinated people infected with the delta variant after vaccination may be contagious and spread the virus to others,” Walensky said in announcing new guidance, which reverses a CDC recommendation in May. “This new science is worrisome and unfortunately warrants an update to our recommendation.”