Religions, Evolution and related Sciences

[deewayne2003]

Survey: US Falls Behind Russia in Global Perception +++

May 9, 2026 12:01 AM

Global perception of the United States has declined for the third year in a row, according to a survey by the Alliance of Democracies Foundations. The survey results are based on responses from more than 46,000 people in 85 countries. The US ranks 128th out of 132, several places behind Russia, which is in 126th place. Germany is ranked 20th, and Ukraine 62nd.

Let me be perfectly clear, with the EU refusal to pay for their NATO obligations since inception; I literally don’t care what these nations think of my country until their capable of defending themselves.

If the UK had to enter combat operations against Russia it would have 8 days worth of ammunition. (British home office)

But I believe the landslide Reform/Restore Britain party just pulled off will start to correct course on many issues.


After that first domino falls of a country shutting down the suicidal empathy of leftist ideology, the rest of Europe will follow….. or so I hope, lest centuries of culture be wiped out in the name of failed policies.

 

[Tanks]

You honestly believe that the God who did everything I wrote out would let His Holy Word become corrupted? That’s a low view of God

One big assumption or leap of faith you are making is that it is God's word and not the words of men.

I realize people need faith and most of what is written in religious books are basis of our social infrastructure. And nothing wrong with that. When in college I joined the AE Pi fraternity and did enjoy the Friday Shabat dinners and the camaraderie it brought. When raising my daughter as a single dad (and later married dad) we did go to the Temple and she joined youth study groups as I rather she did that than wander the malls with friends. She did take it further and have her husband convert prior to marriage and she is more religious than I am.

There is nothing wrong with faith as long as logic prevails as well. There are Christian sects that would rather have their kids die than get medical help or transfusions etc., and that is plain wrong in my view.

 

[Red Leg]

If a person is a Christian. I mean an actual Christian, that means you already believe in the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You believe in a God that you can’t see, feel or hear. You believe that He is one God, existing as three Persons: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. You believe that He is eternal: the same in the past, the present and the future. You believe that He has always existed and will never cease to exist. You believe that He sent His Son to earth, that His Son became flesh, was born of a virgin, was both fully God and fully man, lived a perfect sinless life and died a sinners death, but God raised Him to life again and now he’s sitting at the right hand of the Father. Because He was a perfect sacrifice His death was sufficient for salvation for all who believe in Him and you believe that He is the only source of salvation.

You believe that there is life after death and there are two destinations, Heaven and Hell. You know that you are a sinner deserving of Hell because you have sinned against the God you believe in but since you believe in His Son and what He did for you and have repented for your sins God has forgiven you of your sins and He will give you a home in Heaven when you die.

You believe that God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. If you believe all that in truth and faith, you can believe that same God who made the entire universe, named all the billions of stars (or however many they think there are), Who knitted you in your mother’s womb and knows the number of hairs on your head then you can believe that He miraculously created the entire universe and everything in it in six literal days.

I get it, all of that is totally and completely bizarre (downright crazy) to the unconverted, secular person who leans on his own understanding and what man says. Who has not had their eyes opened by the Holy Spirit.

As a Christian you are called to believe in God’s Word and what it says. It is literal where it is literal and it is figurative where it’s figurative but it is true.

Most, if not all, of the arguments used against my viewpoint in this thread are tired, recycled and played out. Millions of years and evolutionism are recent arrivals and people try to cram them into the Bible and make them work together. It is not possible.

Also, God does not look upon us favorably when we are worried about whether or not the unbelieving world thinks we’re crazy or not.

Rookhawk says belief in the Biblical account of creation and a young earth is not essential. I contend that it is. Either God was lying or He wasn’t.

This is a perfect example of why it is difficult or impossible to discuss this topic broadly with a fundamentalist. A circular argument is a form of philosophical fallacy because it becomes a response to every issue for which there is no logical counter argument.

I was glad that you at least conceded in one of the posts above that the bible was assembled by men - even smart men. I concur whole heartedly. The same willful, sinful, self-centered creatures who have begged for forgiveness through the centuries. As I noted earlier, all sorts of conclaves edited both the new and old testaments for 100 generations. Every one of them was composed of men motivated by yes, an urge to translate what God said or meant into Greek, Latin, or the then current language, but they were also men shaped by the political and social pressures of their eras as well. The protestant revolution further "corrupted" that process as a host of new sects were convinced they knew what God really meant. You and I represent different views of that process.

Our omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient creator has allowed all that to occur as he has allowed every other initiative by humankind. Because, unlike Muslims who believe the Koran in its totality represents an actual transcription of God speaking (the same God you and I worship by the way), we have very little transcribed as Jesus was speaking, much less God. I believe the generally held consensus is that the New Testament contains only around 15% of words actually said by Christ. For the rest we rely on all those flawed sinful human beings to relay the rest.

I am fully aware that there are Christian sects, that are comfortable with the book in their hand and demand strict adherence. There are other Christians, just as Christian as you claim to be, who believe it is incumbent upon them as Christians to use their knowledge, their intellect, and their education to more fully understand the nature of God's creation. I thankfully grew up in just such a church, a church I should hasten to add that did not feel a sense of arrogance that man had it all figured out.

The ultimate irony is one saying they believe in God but don’t believe everything He said. All Scripture is God breathed and men wrote as the Holy Spirit moved them. His Word will not return void. You honestly believe that the God who did everything I wrote out would let His Holy Word become corrupted? That’s a low view of God

So, the irony for me is that an otherwise any intelligent human living in the 21st century would consign themselves to a 14th century style interpretation of their beliefs. The good news is that I am confident that God, not an Evangelical, Catholic, Presbyterian, Methodist, Coptic, or Orthodox interpretation of God, but the God that is beyond human understanding, is very comfortable with any of the choices mankind makes to understand his creation.

 

[spike.t]

Yeah. This doesn't really coincide with Africa hunting.

Well there would be bugger all to hunt if only 2 animals of a very few species were given a ride on the ark.....genetically not enough for any of the species to have survived......not being funny but some of the posts I have read on here are mind blowing to me in what is believed.....and as I know this is going to piss some people off...don't expect any responses from me to any comments to my post....honestly have better things to do...

 

[318AE]

Yeah. This doesn't really coincide with Africa hunting.

It has a little to do with Africa Hunting. The recent pages in this thread remind me why I like to book hunts with private camps versus meeting a bunch of people for the first time and spending morning, noon and campfire nights with people that may end up being “quite interesting”.

 

[rookhawk]

I choose to believe what the Bible says because it says it’s true. You act as if the Bible was haphazardly put together by a bunch of simpletons. Nothing could be further from the truth. I get it though, it’s an easy out to justify disbelief.

I think your reliance on literalism is as diminished as the language that was available. The Torah was written 3400 hundred years ago maximum and it was written in Hebrew. A little bit of the Tanakh was written in Chaldean.

The mind of an uneducated human would not be able to articulate scientific concepts even if he saw everything exactly as it was. The author's languages lacked words to describe things in a technical manner whether eons, ions, hicks-bosons, space-time, or dark matter. Add to all of that, the languages themselves are metaphorical languages from metaphorical peoples. In Hebrew when God is Angry the text literally says "God's nose is red". God doesn't have a nose in any Christian or Jewish faith structure I am aware of, so sane theologians understand a conceptual metaphor.

The Genesis account was written in a language of metaphor and allegory, it was written not as a scientific treatise, but a philosophical answer to timeless questions.

Rabbis have understood this consistently for 3400 years. The most famous Rabbi understood this 2000 years ago.

 

[spike.t]

It has a little to do with Africa Hunting. The recent pages in this thread remind me why I like to book hunts with private camps versus meeting a bunch of people for the first time and spending morning, noon and campfire nights with people that may end up being “quite interesting”.

You would be safe with us.......

 

[Nyati]

Maybe it’s time for a religious discussion thread?

Yes please, these discussions have nothing to do with Politics.

 

[Boyd Brooks]

I will start a new thread. Religions, Evolution and related sciences.

 

[Boyd Brooks]

I’m very interested in this subject as well as politics however, A few have mentioned starting a new thread for religion, so I did. Looking forward to engaging conversations and insights into this subject matter.

 

[AJ Peacock]

I’m very interested in this subject as well as politics however, A few have mentioned starting a new thread for religion, so I did. Looking forward to engaging conversations and insights into this subject matter.

I thought you were going to start a thread titled "Religions, Evolution and related sciences" You started one called "Religions, Evolution and related Sciences"

I thought you were being literal! haha

AJ

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

The ultimate irony is one saying they believe in God but don’t believe everything He said. All Scripture is God breathed and men wrote as the Holy Spirit moved them. His Word will not return void. You honestly believe that the God who did everything I wrote out would let His Holy Word become corrupted? That’s a low view of God

Is the radical Imam who convinces the young man in the name of god/allah not corrupting the word of god to suit his purpose. Or any other church leaders through multiple sects who have lead /instructed the faithful to commit atrocities in his name not corrupted the word of god? He allows that to happen as a test of faith.

 

[schwerpunkt88]

"While the bombardment was knocking the trench to pieces at Fossalta, he lay very flat and sweated and prayed oh jesus christ get me out of here. Dear jesus please get me out. Christ please please please christ. If you'll only keep me from getting killed I'll do anything you say. I believe in you and I'll tell every one in the word that you are the only one that matters. Please please dear jesus. The shelling moved further up the line. We went to work on the trench in the morning the sun came up and the day was hot and muggy and cheerful and quiet. The next night back at Mestre he did not tell the girl he went upstairs with at the Villa Rossa about Jesus. And he never told anybody." -Chapt VII, The Short Stories of Ernest Hemingway

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I will start a new thread. Religions, Evolution and related sciences.

Perhaps we could as @BRICKBURN to move the last few pages of theology to that thread to get it started which will also clear up the politics thread again.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Perhaps a disclaimer for this thread would be wise reminding everyone we share common interests and that the broader community of A.H. Is full of fine gentleman and ladies with whom great debate and learning is possible and that none should take take offence to anything written here in and or purposely try to offend his fellow forum member. We as a community I’m sure have members from a broad swath of faiths and should strive to learn from each other not try to be combative or disrespectful/dismissive of our fellow poster just because he doesn’t share our specific religious views.

 

[Paul K]

Perhaps a disclaimer for this thread would be wise reminding everyone we share common interests and that the broader community of A.H. Is full of fine gentleman and ladies with whom great debate and learning is possible and that none should take take offence to anything written here in and or purposely try to offend his fellow forum member. We as a community I’m sure have members from a broad swath of faiths and should strive to learn from each other not try to be combative or disrespectful/dismissive of our fellow poster just because he doesn’t share our specific religious views.

Enough said.

Paul

 

[pilar]

Perhaps we could as @BRICKBURN to move the last few pages of theology to that thread to get it started which will also clear up the politics thread again.

But the politics biblical mostly
Judges 9:7-15

 

[Boyd Brooks]

Perhaps a disclaimer for this thread would be wise reminding everyone we share common interests and that the broader community of A.H. Is full of fine gentleman and ladies with whom great debate and learning is possible and that none should take take offence to anything written here in and or purposely try to offend his fellow forum member. We as a community I’m sure have members from a broad swath of faiths and should strive to learn from each other not try to be combative or disrespectful/dismissive of our fellow poster just because he doesn’t share our specific religious views.

I was going to put a qualifier at the start, but I have faith in the moderators, they will shut it down if it gets out of hand. We are all adults after all.

 

[Hedge774]

I have much faith in the Lord, Jesus Christ. I have very little in this threads' peaceful success.

 

[Ray B]

Speaking of religions, it might be best to have a review. First, religions are divided into two basic groups: mono & poly theistic. There are a whole bunch of polytheistic religions but only 4 major religions that are monotheistic. While the physical definition of the god varies, all consider their god to be the same god as the God of Abraham. I find it interesting that wars have been fought, people have been killed and empires reduced to rubble in the name of one name versus another name while at the core both names are of the same god.