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[WAB]

I think in completely different terms when I know bad weather is on the horizon...

I think power generation and disaster recovery (downed tree on the house.. or inability to evacuate afterwards, etc)..

I have enough generator power available to pretty much power my entire house and I keep enough fuel on hand to keep those generators running for 72 hours straight if needed...

I have a couple of chainsaws and other tools on hand that can get me out of most forseeable predicaments...

and I have a 4WD truck with a covered bed that can go anywhere I ask it to...

Food and TP are never an issue for me... Im by no means a "prepper".. but I am reasonably prepared for a week or two long event at any time... We tend to buy in bulk from places like COSTCO and SAMS.. Theres always at least one or two 5lb bags of dried beans, a 5lb bag or two of dried rice, several boxes of dried pasta, etc.. on the shelves.. and I think the last time we had less than a dozen rolls of TP and a dozen rolls of paper towels in the house would have been the early 90's... Theres never less than a couple of cases of water in the panty as well..

I also keep comprehensive medical supplies in the house and decent kits in all vehicles..

I find it funny that every time a major winter storm shows up in the forecast that all of my neighbors fill their minivans with water, TP, and other staples... and are in a panic.. they literally buy months of supplies....

Never once did I wonder how I was going to feed myself or wipe my ass during COVID... no 3" snow storm in north texas is going to have me hungry or walking around with a dirty butt hole lol..

A couple of years ago when we had a big storm coming in I saw my neighbor bringing in a huge 50lb bag of rice that he had gotten at COSTCO..

I asked him how he was going to prepare the rice when his pipes froze and the power grid went down for 3 days due to the storm...

his eyes got huge and he went straight into panic mode lol..

I told him I'd trade him the use of a little 1000 watt inverter generator that Ive got for a 50lb bag of rice...

He didnt think that was all that funny lol...

We are similar, but living on a farm we probably have a years supply of food canned and frozen. My generator will keep everything running so the food won’t thaw and the well keeps pumping. My FJ40 is unstoppable and has no computer chip to fry.

The big joke with our friends is that in a serious emergency they’re headed to our place!

 

[Red Leg]

We are similar, but living on a farm we probably have a years supply of food canned and frozen. My generator will keep everything running so the food won’t thaw and the well keeps pumping. My FJ40 is unstoppable and has no computer chip to fry.

The big joke with our friends is that in a serious emergency they’re headed to our place!

Ditto. Plus a healthy stock of scotch and gin.

 

[PARA45]

We are similar, but living on a farm we probably have a years supply of food canned and frozen. My generator will keep everything running so the food won’t thaw and the well keeps pumping. My FJ40 is unstoppable and has no computer chip to fry.

The big joke with our friends is that in a serious emergency they’re headed to our place!

Having lived through Hurricane Andrews and too many hurricanes to remember. I was always prepared. I moved to GA, and people here go nuts for the TP, bread and milk if any storm is approaching.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I figure I could comfortably sit out the first year of the apocalypse here with what I have on hand , by the end of it the spirits offered might be clearer and in mason jars though…

 

[WAB]

Ditto. Plus a healthy stock of scotch and gin.

Ah yes, it would take a looong time for me to run out of whiskey or wine! Our wine cellar is embarrassing. The other day I found a 2012 Ridge Monte Bello I had completely forgotten about.

 

[Brent in Az]

Having lived through Hurricane Andrews and too many hurricanes to remember. I was always prepared. I moved to GA, and people here go nuts for the TP, bread and milk if any storm is approaching.

They have their priorities mixed up. Gotta be well stocked with beer & cigars.

 

[Hunt anything]

We are similar, but living on a farm we probably have a years supply of food canned and frozen. My generator will keep everything running so the food won’t thaw and the well keeps pumping. My FJ40 is unstoppable and has no computer chip to fry.

The big joke with our friends is that in a serious emergency they’re headed to our place!

Same here, we have 4 freezers full of meat and some produce. I keep my tractor full of diesel and enough gas available for our portable generators running do up to 10 days. The pantry stays stocked with canned goods, rice and beans. Our only worry is water as our well is difficult to run off of generator power so we do stock up on water at the beginning of hurricane season or if a storm is imminent. Our stove and oven is natural gas so no worries there.
Having lived in Minnesota and South Dakota and now on the Gulf coast I prefer winter weather emergencies over tropical weather emergencies.

We do need to invest in a generator that can run the whole house but that’s a whole other can of worms.

 

[WAB]

Same here, we have 4 freezers full of meat and some produce. I keep my tractor full of diesel and enough gas available for our portable generators running do up to 10 days. The pantry stays stocked with canned goods, rice and beans. Our only worry is water as our well is difficult to run off of generator power so we do stock up on water at the beginning of hurricane season or if a storm is imminent. Our stove and oven is natural gas so no worries there.
Having lived in Minnesota and South Dakota and now on the Gulf coast I prefer winter weather emergencies over tropical weather emergencies.

We do need to invest in a generator that can run the whole house but that’s a whole other can of worms.

Check Costco. If you don’t mind manual switching on your power feed, they sell multi fuel generators that I suspect will handle your load at sub $1,000 pricing. I’m looking to pick one up and hook it to my propane tank. That would give me a very extended alternate power supply.

 

[rookhawk]

Have any of you been following the Spencer Pratt for Mayor of LA campaign?

He has no campaign consultants, is completely grass roots, and his campaign ads are single handedly the most persuasive and highest quality of any ever produced for any political campaign.

I wanted to post them here (there are dozens) but Google/Youtube suppresses them mightily to keep Karen Bass in power.

Found the best one:

The lego one is fantastic:

Fresh Prince:

 

[Newboomer]

I think in completely different terms when I know bad weather is on the horizon...

I think power generation and disaster recovery (downed tree on the house.. or inability to evacuate afterwards, etc)..

I have enough generator power available to pretty much power my entire house and I keep enough fuel on hand to keep those generators running for 72 hours straight if needed...

I have a couple of chainsaws and other tools on hand that can get me out of most forseeable predicaments...

and I have a 4WD truck with a covered bed that can go anywhere I ask it to...

Food and TP are never an issue for me... Im by no means a "prepper".. but I am reasonably prepared for a week or two long event at any time... We tend to buy in bulk from places like COSTCO and SAMS.. Theres always at least one or two 5lb bags of dried beans, a 5lb bag or two of dried rice, several boxes of dried pasta, etc.. on the shelves.. and I think the last time we had less than a dozen rolls of TP and a dozen rolls of paper towels in the house would have been the early 90's... Theres never less than a couple of cases of water in the panty as well..

I also keep comprehensive medical supplies in the house and decent kits in all vehicles..

I find it funny that every time a major winter storm shows up in the forecast that all of my neighbors fill their minivans with water, TP, and other staples... and are in a panic.. they literally buy months of supplies....

Never once did I wonder how I was going to feed myself or wipe my ass during COVID... no 3" snow storm in north texas is going to have me hungry or walking around with a dirty butt hole lol..

A couple of years ago when we had a big storm coming in I saw my neighbor bringing in a huge 50lb bag of rice that he had gotten at COSTCO..

I asked him how he was going to prepare the rice when his pipes froze and the power grid went down for 3 days due to the storm...

his eyes got huge and he went straight into panic mode lol..

I told him I'd trade him the use of a little 1000 watt inverter generator that Ive got for a 50lb bag of rice...

He didnt think that was all that funny lol...

Supplies are all well and good but--you gotta have a way to prepare them to eat. I try to keep a fair amount of stuff on hand and I have a propane genset and several tanks. My wood stove heats the main living area and I can cook on it in a pinch. 3 cases of MREs just in case things get really bad.
Born and raised in Maine so bad weather doesn't phase me. Even here in northern NV I've had to plow through snow up to the bumper of my truck to get home occasionally.

 

[mdwest]

Check Costco. If you don’t mind manual switching on your power feed, they sell multi fuel generators that I suspect will handle your load at sub $1,000 pricing. I’m looking to pick one up and hook it to my propane tank. That would give me a very extended alternate power supply.

Also check hi-bid in your area...

I picked up a 9500 watt, dual fuel generator with a cummins engine... damn near new condition.. for $400 there.. I also grabbed a 5500 watt gas generator (Troy Bilt) with a Briggs and Stratton engine, also in excellent condition for $300..

Between those two generators and my two little "camping" generators (a 1000w inverter generator and a 2500w inverter generator).. I can easily run the entire household and still have power to spare..

I would imagine on the coast where everyone is worried about tropical weather emergencies that used, but in excellent condition (barely used at all) generators are pretty prevalent.. I'd guess there are always a couple up for grabs near any of the larger cities in the state on Hi-bid that go for pennies on the dollar..

 

[Tanks]

Speaking of power generation, I heard the weirdest situation at a client's location (hospital campus) a few months ago. They have a co-generation plant where they run these huge natural gas IC engines (Waukesha), three of them.

Their deal and permit states that if the power company loses power, they have to turn off all of their engines. Go figure.

They are allowed to use only their emergency diesel generators to power ICU etc., and nothing else.

 

[mdwest]

Supplies are all well and good but--you gotta have a way to prepare them to eat. I try to keep a fair amount of stuff on hand and I have a propane genset and several tanks. My wood stove heats the main living area and I can cook on it in a pinch. 3 cases of MREs just in case things get really bad.
Born and raised in Maine so bad weather doesn't phase me. Even here in northern NV I've had to plow through snow up to the bumper of my truck to get home occasionally.

completely agree...

Ive also got a wood burning fire place (not all that common with newer built houses in this part of the country) and I always have at least a 1/2 cord of firewood on hand.. if I get down to a 1/2 cord, I go get more.. Im sitting on a full cord currently (and this is N TX.. where things never get super cold for very long)...

Ive probably got 250lbs of pellets for the pellet grill.. and all the power generation I'll ever need to power that little motor..

and Ive also got a couple of "camping" grills that run off of propane.. and never less than about a dozen of the little 1lb propane cans and a couple of the 25lb bottles on hand as well (I use propane heaters in my deer blinds and in my little cabin in colorado.. and have a dual fuel generator... so always have a good supply of propane on hand)..

the people racing to the grocery store to buy 5 gallons of milk and 20 rolls of toilet paper amuse me...

if you dont have power that milk isnt going to last.. and if youre not eating, youre not going to need a whole lot of shit paper lol..

 

[Tanks]

Have any of you been following the Spencer Pratt for Governor of LA campaign?

No, but I have been following Spencer Pratt for Mayor of LA, CA campaign.

 

[Tanks]

if you dont have power that milk isnt going to last

I think, here in the USA, they have finally started selling non-refrigerated milk. I always wondered why we don't have it here as I see it on grocery store shelves all over the World.

 

[WAB]

Speaking of power generation, I heard the weirdest situation at a client's location (hospital campus) a few months ago. They have a co-generation plant where they run these huge natural gas IC engines (Waukesha), three of them.

Their deal and permit states that if the power company loses power, they have to turn off all of their engines. Go figure.

They are allowed to use only their emergency diesel generators to power ICU etc., and nothing else.

I wonder if their switching system creates a backfeed concern? Those waukesha’s have to be synced to the grid. Going in and out can be tricky on large units. I’ve used the bang poles to link a refinery back in in an emergency. Serious pucker factor, bang pole or not.

 

[Hunt anything]

I do keep an ample supply of propane tanks and charcoal handy do I can do most of our cooking outside to keep the heat from cooking down in the house.

 

[rookhawk]

Supplies are all well and good but--you gotta have a way to prepare them to eat. I try to keep a fair amount of stuff on hand and I have a propane genset and several tanks. My wood stove heats the main living area and I can cook on it in a pinch. 3 cases of MREs just in case things get really bad.
Born and raised in Maine so bad weather doesn't phase me. Even here in northern NV I've had to plow through snow up to the bumper of my truck to get home occasionally.

I'm not a prepper per se, I don't believe the end of the world as we know it is a likely scenario. What I do think is a VERY likely scenario is 2-3 weeks of regional living hell on earth. We nearly saw it during the George Floyd riots as the mob was crossing the bridge from MN to WI but the county Sheriff called in all units, plus a volunteer militia of armed farmers that blocked the bridge and turned them back into Minneapolis for more destruction in their State.

As such, we've prioritized how to live like Marie Antoinette for 2-3 weeks until order can be restored. 1.) Firewood to heat our home if we have no power. 2.) Upgraded to a 1000 gallons of propane for heat/cooking. 3.) We installed a manual well pump so we have access to artisanal spring water if the power is out. 4.) We shop at costco and always have a hundred pounds of dry goods and about the same of canned goods. 5.) We have 4 freezers full of food. 6.) We have a 30x40 garden and we have a full orchard, plus wood cribs that grow mushrooms. 7.) We have ham/FRS radios and gave them as gifts to our neighbors. 8.) We are hunters so of course we have general protection like all the farmers do.

The only remaining thing we need to completely de-risk us for the worst case scenario we plan for is we need a whole-house Generac. We're going to purchase one in the next 1-2 years and that will put a wrap on it.

The only other things we think about that would keep us from "bugging in" for 2-3 weeks as society resumes normalcy would be having some extra fuel on hand for our vehicles and having an assortment of Rx so we don't have to leave for a minor medical issue should one arise.

The #1 most important key to being prepared is to move to a place where you trust your neighbors and trust your Sheriff. Everything else is easy as high-trust societies cooperate when need emerges. On the other hand, there is no amount of prepping that can solve the problems of a single family in a low-trust society. Urban and Suburban locations, particularly in blue States, are incompatible with prepping as step 1 will be someone burning you out or stealing your resources.

 

[Tanks]

I wonder if their switching system creates a backfeed concern? Those waukesha’s have to be synced to the grid. Going in and out can be tricky on large units. I’ve used the bang poles to link a refinery back in in an emergency. Serious pucker factor, bang pole or not.

I think that was the concern. Though just those engines alone are in the millions, you'd think they would have solved that problem. Power outages were not as much of an issue though when these were installed a couple of decades ago, so they probably did not think it was worth the effort and cost.