PHOENIX PHIL
AH ambassador
Yes, the USA and Israel own this war, despite the fact that the rest of the world will benefit from Iran not achieving a nuclear bomb.
How you could come to the conclusion I think this crisis is over I do not know, so no I don't think that. If there is no regime change, a laudable goal but one I don't think is achievable without a ground invasion, then we will have to most likely revisit strikes on Iran in the future. Hopefully we get a couple of decades before that would be necessary. Regardless, that does not mean that Trump should not have struck now.
As for your next question, my first thought was you can't be serious, but you posted it, so obviously you are. Let's just take a review of those 3 glorious presidents.
Clinton
Well he did help in achieving peace in Ireland. However he did nothing in Rwanda where just how many hundreds of thousands died? The disaster in Somalia. Then there was also the bombings of US embassies, not to mention the first attempt at bringing down the WTC with the bombing there. But we're not done yet. The coupe de gras, some guy by the name of Osama Bin Laden. Offered up to him by Sudan and yet he didn't feel he had the legal standing to take him.....brilliant.
Obama
I'll always give him credit for making the risky decision to approve the op that took out Bin Laden. But that's where it ends. From the so-called red line in Syria to the debacle in Libya.....failures. But lets not forget about he nuclear deal with Iran that did not stop a damn thing and to fund that and whatever else we sent them over $1 billion in cash
Biden
There is nothing of substance I can give the blithering old fool any positive credit for. I'l correct that to say that he did support Israel after the Oct 7 attacks. However, the withdrawal from Afghanistan was a disgrace. His time in office while letting Iran to continue uranium enrichment with no response. Then of course we have Ukraine. I don't blame Biden for Russia invading Ukraine, but he did nothing to stop it. In fact his language was something about a "minor incursion would be okay" gave Putin the green light, that the USA would not oppose him.
So you really want me to refer to those three ass clowns for forcing policy wisdom? Thank you no, the only thing I want my POTUS to refer to those idiots for is learning what not to do.
Pacifism
Changing the subject now. It is simply unfathomable to me that anyone who is reasonably familiar with 20th century history could not have learned that pacifism does not work. It is especially so to me when those that includes European or Scandinavian citizens. Pacifism is a nice thought, that somehow you'll avoid conflict if you just give the bully a little of what he wants. But you should know that it didn't work with Hitler and it's NEVER going to work with Iran.
You should know that all you're doing is delaying the fight until your back is against the wall. At this point it will cost so much more in both blood and treasure to finally accept you've been already been in the fight, you just weren't showing much. Finally at this point you greatly risk not being able to win the war.
For goodness sakes, wake up and smell the coffee!! Iran was not going to stop their pursuit of a nuke weapon. Just what the hell do you think they were doing with nearly 1000 pounds of 60% enriched uranium? I'll give you a hint, typical commercial nuclear powered electricity plants use 3-5% enriched uranium.
Furthermore, as I understand it, it's a quick jump from 60 up to 90% plus for what you need for weapons grade material. Can you connect the dots and see the picture here?
And you're against all of this because of the economic impact of higher oil prices? Go find some Israeli survivors of the Oct 7 attacks or loved ones of those who didn't and tell them about it, let us know how that goes.
If after all of this, I invite you and anyone else opposed to this strike to:
1. Stop bitching about what Trump has done in Iran.
2. Offer up a better plan
3. Tell us who will execute that plan
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