Watching the videos of the male nurse protestor getting shot by a US Border Patrol Agent in Minneapolis, I honestly cannot see enough to gain knowledge of exactly happened. That stated, let’s review what not to do with any law enforcement officer (LEO),
- If stopped by LEO, be polite with, “Yes sir, no sir, how do you want me to proceed (in retrieving an item from glove box and so on…)”.
- When asked if I have any weapons, “Sir, I have my Concealed Pistol License (CPL) in my left hand and a pistol on my right hip.”
LEOs want to live just as most do. They do not know me from Adam so they will justifiably be concerned if I am armed. If I do NOT admit that I am armed when asked and later they discover I am, wouldn’t it be logical for any person, especially a trained LEO to be very concerned with their safety? I think so.
If attending a protest with intent to obstruct LEO actions, DO NOT carry a weapon. Why you may wonder? Because obstructing any LEO action has a many times higher probability of being at least detained by LEO than that of anyone who is NOT obstructing LEO actions. If when a LEO orders one to stand down, get back, or otherwise quit obstructing LEO actions, one disobeys the lawful LEO command, one can reasonably expect to be detained. The detention will for the safety of the LEOs and all in the area include a search for weapons.
If a protestor resists LEOs as the late nurse did, and is subdued by LEOs, and a handgun is discovered, a LEO will shout “GUN” to alert the other LEOs. Those LEOs involved in restraining the uncooperative protestor will already have their adrenalin flowing. This is a natural human physiological reaction to danger. Everyone reading this knows what adrenalin does to them.
Now, imagine you are a LEO trying to restrain an armed protestor and it is true as reported that the protestor was reaching or at least looked like they were reaching for their handgun, any LEO would be justified by law to shoot. Yes, maybe the LEO who shot the protestor fired too quickly, maybe. You or I were not in that scuffle so how would we know?
As a non-LEO it seems that LEOs shoot to quickly and too many rounds. But I am not nor have ever I been a LEO. LEOs do not know if this person or that person has a weapon and will try to kill them. Like us, LEOs want to live and have a natural survival instinct.
As to how many shots LEOs fire, during the time for challenging with adrenalin flowing, one’s marksmanship will likely not will any trophies. Further, how good of marksmen is the average LEO?
As good citizens we should have enough common sense not to physically challenge armed LEOs. That is unless we want to become martyrs for a cause? Did the late protestor intend suicide by cop (SBC) or martyrdom? I do not think we will ever know.
What was the cause of this unnecessary death?
- Was if a bad situation caused by the uncooperative protestor?
- Was it the late protestor wanting to die for the cause?
- Was the cause of this tragedy the Minnesota politicians making public statements clearly intending that the citizens film, protest, and obstruct Federal LEOs from doing their duty?
- Was the cause the Biden era open borders?
- Should Federal, State, or Local government(s) remove illegal aliens who have other criminal convictions to their countries of origin?
- Would the late protestor have been shot if Minnesota would allow the Federal Government to take custody of those criminally convicted illegal aliens when released from local or state custody?
It is unfortunate the person died. It is also unfortunate a LEO had to take a life.
Rules to live by,
- If detained my LEOs, cooperate.
- Advise LEOs you are armed.
- Avoid conflicts when armed.
- If you think you need to be armed to go there, you probably should not go there.
- If undocumented or otherwise illegal in a foreign country, do not commit other crimes. If you or I were in Mexico or say, an African country legally or illegally, and committed a crime, we would be in prison for a long time. If we resisted a foreign LEO, we would be dead.
From this unverified post,
Country's top expert in the law of self defense weighs in. The firearm matters—and the media is hiding it. At the Minneapolis Border Patrol shooting, the suspect was armed with a SIG Sauer P320 AXG...
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"Country's top expert in the law of self defense weighs in. The firearm matters—and the media is hiding it. At the Minneapolis Border Patrol shooting, the suspect was armed with a SIG Sauer P320 AXG Combat, a high-capacity 9mm pistol with a threaded barrel, extended 20–21 round magazine, and a SIG Romeo optic—a setup costing $1,500–$2,000. This was not a cheap carry gun.
Officers were in a physical struggle with an armed suspect when a gun was perceived and the word “gun” was shouted. Under settled self-defense law, officers are entitled to rely on fellow officers’ reasonable perceptions. They do not have to personally confirm the threat.
Once a firearm appears during active resistance, the legal standard is simple: reasonable perception of imminent deadly force. That standard was met here. Freeze-frame activism doesn’t override real-time dynamics, and the law does not require officers to wait to be shot. This was a tragic—but lawful—use of force."