Norma VULKAN or ORYX?

[sambarhunter]

For big deer.

I used vulkans in a .300 win for a red stag one time and was a little 'underdone' on performance hence the question.

I was wanting some lighter bullets for my 9.3x64.

Norma projectile 9.3MM.365 232 gr Oryx

Norma projectile 9.3MM.365 232 gr Vulkan

 

[wesheltonj]

I have boxes of Norma Oryx in many calibers, the Oryx killed everything in Africa just fine, and Elk in the USA too. I don't see a problem using the Oryx.

 

[cmk]

Oryx. Since it is bonded it will hold together better. The 9.3x64 runs a bit faster than 9.3x62 and I'm guessing that the lighter bullets are cretated with the x62 or even the x57 in mind. So at close range the Vulkan may have an increased risk of being too explosive at x64 speeds.

My 2 cents.

 

[Northwest9]

i used 196gn norma oryx projectiles on my namibian hunt this year

2 recovered projectiles, muzzle velocity 2780fps

from the zebra, under the skin @ 150m

from the oryx, under the skin @ 244m

 

[sambarhunter]

Oryx. Since it is bonded it will hold together better. The 9.3x64 runs a bit faster than 9.3x62 and I'm guessing that the lighter bullets are created with the x62 or even the x57 in mind. So at close range the Vulkan may have an increased risk of being too explosive at x64 speeds.

My 2 cents.

I had an idea that may be the case with the O`s than the V`S and the `64 has a lot more ooph.

i used 196gn norma oryx projectiles on my namibian hunt this year

2 recovered projectiles, muzzle velocity 2780fps


What calibre was used Northwest?

 

[cmk]

i used 196gn norma oryx projectiles on my namibian hunt this year

2 recovered projectiles, muzzle velocity 2780fps

That would be for some 8 mm (.323) cartridge? Or have they ever made the Oryx in 196gr for the 9.3?

Personally i like the Oryx a lot. I've used in 6.5x55 Swedish (roe deer) and 30-06 (roe deer and wild boar). 156 and 180 grains, respectively. All one shot kills. Some DRT, and some ran a few seconds before realizing they were dead. All pass-throughs, no bullets recovered, good amount of damage to the vitals, but not messy.

A roe deer is not that big, but the bullets certainly must have expanded nicely while travellling through.

 

[CAustin]

I have used Oryx and I like them.

 

[Northwest9]

That would be for some 8 mm (.323) cartridge? Or have they ever made the Oryx in 196gr for the 9.3?

yeah, .323 cal, but a good demonstration of performance of the Oryx projie i thought

 

[sambarhunter]

Ok and thanks for thatNW9

 

[sambarhunter]

I took a pic of the rifle today,I kept the barrel long and I believe that the 232 Grs will spin along through it nicely.
The EAW/Ernst Apel QD`s look a little high although the scope eyeballs really well,there will be some open sights added down the track. The scope is just sitting in the rings as finals will be done when I get a few crackers to shoot off.

Anyone with QL that might care to venture an AR2209 load for the 232 grain Oryx? H4350 Equiv I believe.

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

I use Oryx. Very good bullet.
Witold

 

[GuttormG]

The Norma Vulkan is a bad choice for high speeds, good for low/moderate things like 9,3x57.

 

[Scrumbag]

Oryx is now my go to bullet in 9.3x62

 

[PeteG]

My experience with the 200gr Oryx in 300wm was very good.
hard hitting, flattened all small game pretty much on the spot.
not a lot of meat damage either. actually less than i expected.
I will probably be using Oryx again once i use up all my mono's that i have.
i would have no issue using the Oryx on any game animals up to eland.

 

[sambarhunter]

The oryx are double the price here over the Woodleighs and I wonder are they doubly as good?
Woodleigh 9.3mm .366 232gr PP SN 50 Pack

 

[Areaonereal]

Woodleighs are your friend

 

[Longwalker]

My understanding is that the Vulcan bullet is made for quick expansion and maximum shock effect with only moderate penetration. I have not used them on game, but they have shot accurately from any rifle I have tried them in. I'd use them on smallish game when putting them down right now is the priority, but not for the larger animals or the tougher ones. The Oryx is a wonderful design. I have used them for shooting small deer, a couple bears, up to quite large elk, with perfectly repeatable, satisfactory, and effective results. Wide expansion and shock effect, good bullet integrity, and adequate penetration. From my research, I believe them to be comparable to the Woodleigh Weldcore, another good bullet that I sadly have no experience with. I would not use the Vulcan in preference to the Oryx for any hunting situation I can think of.

 

[Adrian]

Another vote for the Oryx. I used them in my 30-06 last year and will use them from now on in all my rifles.
Accurate, quality, dependable and everything was a one shot kill. Can't ask for more from a bullet.

 

[cmk]

Promotional video clip from Norma (in Swedish) showing performance of a couple of different bullets (including Oryx and Vulkan) at various ranges. Calibre is 30-06, though. Many gelatin blocks are killed in slowmotion, with most relevant numbers regarding weight retention and energies showed in english.

Might be helpful/interesting.

 

[ZG47]

My understanding of the Norma Vulcan is that it is simply the 1980s PPC with a more exciting name, i.e. a conventional flat-nose softpoint projectile that expands a bit more slowly than the Norma plastic-point bullets.