My Covid vaccination experience

Hope when they do try to mandate it .it blows up in their faces air lines and other countries tourism.

Hope it pits the airlines out of business
I do not wish to be snarky, but that would not be an entirely useful outcome would it? Do your future travel plans include walking to Europe or the African continent - assuming your port of arrival would let you in?

They are businesses and they are looking for ways to fly again. Not only do I not expect it to blow up in their faces, but I am convinced proof of vaccination offers the shortest path to getting international travel back to normal. I will gladly help that effort out by taking that shot - along with all the others I have taken in my lifetime; get my second in three days. But you should do exactly what you want to do.
 
I do not wish to be snarky, but that would not be an entirely useful outcome would it? Do your future travel plans include walking to Europe or the African continent - assuming your port of arrival would let you in?

They are businesses and they are looking for ways to fly again. Not only do I not expect it to blow up in their faces, but I am convinced proof of vaccination offers the shortest path to getting international travel back to normal. I will gladly help that effort out by taking that shot - along with all the others I have taken in my lifetime; get my second in three days. But you should do exactly what you want to do.
Thank you Red Leg for saying this. I wanted to say almost this exact thing but didn't want to cross any unspoken lines since I haven't been here long. (y) (y)

I will go ahead and say this though - the freedom to choose to not take a vaccine doesn't mean freedom from any consequences that arise due to said refusal, and wishing an entire industry goes out of business - one that thousands of businesses and millions of people depend on (including any of us who desire to travel internationally to hunt or vacation) - seems illogical and self-defeating.

But like I've said before, just so there's no confusion - I certainly support anyone's right to refuse the vaccine. I just think it wise to think through the logical and natural consequences of that decision before anyone commits to exercise that freedom.
 
I'm scheduled for the Moderna first shot next Tuesday at my local Walgreens. While I would have preferred the one-shot J&J shot, beggars can't be choosers.

My main reason for getting the shot is that I want to be able to travel again. I'm guessing the only way I'll get to go to either Namibia or South Africa on safari is if I've had the vaccine. I am not fond about having to take the shot but it is what it is.
 
Thank you Red Leg for saying this. I wanted to say almost this exact thing but didn't want to cross any unspoken lines since I haven't been here long. (y) (y)

I will go ahead and say this though - the freedom to choose to not take a vaccine doesn't mean freedom from any consequences that arise due to said refusal, and wishing an entire industry goes out of business - one that thousands of businesses and millions of people depend on (including any of us who desire to travel internationally to hunt or vacation) - seems illogical and self-defeating.

But like I've said before, just so there's no confusion - I certainly support anyone's right to refuse the vaccine. I just think it wise to think through the logical and natural consequences of that decision before anyone commits to exercise that freedom.
Your comments on this subject have been a breath of informed fresh air. I am sure everyone appreciates it regardless of their position with respect to taking the vaccine.
 
I’ve had my 2 moderna shots and I I didn’t have any problems other than a sore shoulder. The wife got the J&J shot on Tuesday and she had 48 hr fever. Ached all over. She’s ok now! Ready to head to South Africa in September!!!
 
I have not taken the vaccine yet - Not eligible by age or underlying condition. I probably will as soon as it becomes available to me. My biggest issue is that no country yet is using proof of vaccine as an entry requirement. They are still requiring proof of negative Covid tests. So it seems a bit pointless as it relates to travel.
 
I got my second Moderna this morning. Right now 7 hours later and all I have is a sore shoulder and a strong desire have some brains for dinner.
 
I have had my first shot of Pfizer, second scheduled for next Saturday April 3rd. I decided it was best for me with elderly parents and that I want the extra protection since I am headed to South Africa the end of May.
I have friends and co workers that refuse to take it. I respect each persons decision if they want to take it or not. It is a personal choice I agree. I do imagine that it will be a requirement for international travel at some point.
 
Your comments on this subject have been a breath of informed fresh air. I am sure everyone appreciates it regardless of their position with respect to taking the vaccine.

Agreed, everyone has a choice to make, however, you must be prepared to live with the consequences. I believe that the airlines are fully within their rights, and highly likely to require vaccination for travel. You can protest this, but if they choose this route, you will be doing so from the ground.
 
I read that you can travel to Iceland with proof of vaccination or proof of antibodies if you have already had covid.
 
I have taken vaccines of all kinds all my life from 2 different polio shots to the current Covid shots. I guess I’m into being “stuck”, but the tiny size of the needles today just amaze me compared to the ”soda straw” size they use to be. Even when donating blood the needles are smaller than they were in the 1960s when I sold blood while in college.

I love science and engineering progress!
 
That is a fact! :oops: Nothing has looked particularly terrifying to me since being stuck in both buttocks while deploying for Desert Storm by what looked like a large animal veterinary syringe each loaded with what appeared to be an ounce of gamma globulin with the consistency of maple syrup. :eek:
 
I have taken vaccines of all kinds all my life from 2 different polio shots to the current Covid shots. I guess I’m into being “stuck”, but the tiny size of the needles today just amaze me compared to the ”soda straw” size they use to be. Even when donating blood the needles are smaller than they were in the 1960s when I sold blood while in college.

I love science and engineering progress!

That is a fact! :oops: Nothing has looked particularly terrifying to me since being stuck in both buttocks while deploying for Desert Storm by what looked like large animal veterinary syringes each loaded with what appeared to be an ounce of gamma globulin with the consistency of maple syrup. :eek:
 
Canada's roll-out has been abysmal. Now they are spacing the second shot almost 4 months from the first. I heard that I could be eligible after April 21st. I had COVID and when tested I have some form of antibody, so I don't mind waiting for others to get done first.
 
Canada's roll-out has been abysmal. Now they are spacing the second shot almost 4 months from the first. I heard that I could be eligible after April 21st. I had COVID and when tested I have some form of antibody, so I don't mind waiting for others to get done first.

Agreed, my father in law is 84 and has pulmonary fibrosis. I can’t imagine a higher risk category. He is just now getting a date for his first shot. What a crap show!
 
Agreed, my father in law is 84 and has pulmonary fibrosis. I can’t imagine a higher risk category. He is just now getting a date for his first shot. What a crap show!
Yes but our wacky US socialist “democrats” want us to go to centralized social medicine! No thanks!
 
Canada's roll-out has been abysmal. Now they are spacing the second shot almost 4 months from the first. I heard that I could be eligible after April 21st. I had COVID and when tested I have some form of antibody, so I don't mind waiting for others to get done first.
In a parliamentary system, how does this character retain power? Are the urbanites such sheep that they have given up all self reliance?

Then again, we obviously are not far behind you. :cautious:
 
In a parliamentary system, how does this character retain power? Are the urbanites such sheep that they have given up all self reliance?

Then again, we obviously are not far behind you. :cautious:
IMO Canada has allowed to much immigration to fast. The Liberal government gives free handouts to them instead of making sure the have a job skill before they arrive. They vote for the Liberals because they get everything for free, then sponsor more relatives who also go on the dole and vote Liberal as well!
The hard working, tax paying Canadian is going the way of the Dodo!
 
In a parliamentary system, how does this character retain power? Are the urbanites such sheep that they have given up all self reliance?

Then again, we obviously are not far behind you. :cautious:
The Constitution Act 1867 is becoming an impediment to Federation, in my opinion. When it was drafted the "country" was really just Ontario, Quebec and the Martimes. So, now we have a Federal system that concentrates the voting power in SW Ontario and Quebec. The government is really formed in that voting block. We just had the Supreme Court rule on the federal carbon tax. And, from my reading, they have really strengthened the Federal power, and therefore Ontario and Quebec's political bent.

Our Prime Minister is empowered because his party takes the most seats. The Liberal party tends to dominate that area of the country. They won't vote Conservative because they see it as dominated by western values.

Interesting the Indigenous groups are actually more aligned with Conservative policies than the left(oil, land use etc) despite what the protesters would have us believe. But, the Conservatives have ignored this and are missing their only chance to change the balance of power. So stupid.

If I was Alberta, Saskatchewan or Manitoba, I would be seriously questioning my place in Confederation. They really have no say whatsoever. Politics in Canada can be likened (to steal an analogy from south of the 49th) to two wolves and one lamb voting on what's for dinner. Their only hope, I think, is if they empower the First Nations. The voting blocks would have to change, and that would dilute things.
 

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