Why The 30-06 Has Been rendered OBSOLETE

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  1. Bruce Fletcher

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    The 30-06 is obsolete and so am I. We make a great pair.
     
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  2. nuval.J2711

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    I am thinking of getting an 06 in a few years and I was looking at a browning X-bolt. My dad has on 06 A-bolt what do you guys suggest?
     

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    Browning X bolt is a nice rifle, my brother has one. It feed wonderfully and shoots well..I love it
     

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    Don't know much about Browning, but you have a couple years. there are plenty of choices out there I got lucky on line and snapped up a Mod98 old school sporter my absolute Favorite
     
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  5. Bruce Fletcher

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    30-06 is a great caiber. Browning makes excellent firearms so it would be hard to go wrong. If I were going to buy a new 30-06 I would look at a Thompson Center Dimension. The reason being is you can change calibers with that rifle. Also I would look at the Thompson Center venture as they are very accurate. Also the Ruger American rifle is very accurate out of the box and has a detachable rotary magazine.
     

  6. Steve Steyr

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    For cheap and reportedly accurate, a Ruger American. If you want a classy rifle to hand down to your kids and grand kids with pride, choose a Winchester Model 70 Featherweight. Model 70's will never go out of style.
     
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    Nuval.J2711,

    I do not know what a Browning X-Bolt is.

    However, as Bruce Fletcher said, Browning makes excellent firearms.

    My experience with other Browning products have always been happy experiences so, I will guess whatever their X-Bolt is like, it probably is made well and probably quite accurate (most new rifles are accurate nowadays).

    Their old FN Mausers were to my liking, (they could've left the original FN steel floor plates on them though and they would have been so much the better) but sadly, Browning no longer offers Mauser actioned rifles anyway.

    Over my lifetime I have owned quite a few .30-06's and my favorite (of the .30-06's I can afford anyway) is the "FN Sporter" from back in the 1950s, with 24" medium sporter weight barrel and Beuhler (spelling?) wing safety that blocked the striker when the "wing" was in the up position.

    Sears even sold a version of them for a time, called the "JC Higgins Model 50" or something like that but with only a 22" very thin weight barrel.

    I generally always buy these "JC Higgins" version rifles at gun shows and from the used rack in gun stores when I find one now and then, as long as the seller is not asking some ridiculous price for it.

    Here in Anchorage, they seem to pop up in .270 Caliber more often than .30-06 but, re-barreled to whatever caliber is compatible to that action, they are often a great deal.

    My 9.3x62 is built on a JC Higgins Mauser action and it is a very fine rifle.

    Back to Browning ... if you must buy a brand new rifle (most of the firearms and scopes I have purchased or traded for in my lifetime have been 2nd hand deals), I suspect you could do a lot worse.

    That being said, if I were looking to buy a brand new rifle today, I would really scrutinize the CZ Model 550.

    Their run of the mill rifles seem to be awfully darn good but, stay away from their so-called "Custom Shop" products, because in my personal experience, that branch on their product tree has proved to be nothing more than a scam.

    Cheers,
    Velo Dog.
     

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    accurate rifles and nice to carry , get the synthetic stock
     

  9. nuval.J2711

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    Thanks
     

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    Bruce Fletcher,

    Thanks for that link, it was a great read and I enjoyed it thoroughly.

    The part about Harry Selby's client taking a good buffalo with the 220 grain solid from Harry's old Model 721 was quite interesting.

    Not the caliber I'd choose for buffalo but it does tend to support that: "Power is usually fine but, accuracy is usually final".

    I have always thought the 721 was superior to the Model 700 in every way but, I am admittedly an OCD weirdo and a minimalist.

    Bring what you've got.
    Use what you brought.
    Hit the right spot and hit it a lot.

    Out,
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  12. Bruce Fletcher

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    Hey Velo Dog,

    You are welcome. I remember reading this article in American Rifleman a few years back and it stuck in my mind as I inherited my Dad's 270 model 721.
    It is a nail driver. My Father hunted the most of the Western States and British Columbia and never used anything but his 270. He took everything from Columbia Black Tail
    to Moose with it. He was an amazing shot. Every model 721 I have ever been associated with has been described by it's owner as very accurate.

    I was amazed at reading Harry Selbys son took a buffalo with a 220 grain solid. I did note however Harry was there with his 416 Rigby.
    I am glad you enjoyed it as much as I did.

    Fletch
     
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    Convert them to 35 Whelen or 9.3x62mm? Should have read the rest of the suggestions. I converted a commercial Mauser 98 to 416 Taylor, so the sky is pretty much the limit. It took me many years before I tried the 30-06, it was just to much common place, efficient, effective, available. As Elmer Keith noted about efficiency, performance counts most. I personally like the efficient 308 Winchester, but always want to get that 165 gr bullet up to 2900 fps, beyond most typical reloading guide recommendations.
     
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  15. Bruce Fletcher

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    I am in a situation like that right now. I have a 721 in 30-06 I bought for 275 bucks and spent some time refinishing the stock and adding a recoil pad. I was told the trigger was very light by the seller of the rifle and cautioned about it. After disassembling the rifle I found the trigger was an adjustable model. The trigger group looked new. It was the original but appeared the rifle was stored for years and not shot very much. I took it to the range last weekend and with a vintage Weaver 2-7 scope had it dialed in at 200 yards 4 shots I could cover with a 50 cent piece. This is the second 721 I had bought with the intention of rebarreling it to 35 whelen. The first was a 270 like the one I inherited. One look at the rifling when I got it and after cleaning and a trip to the range I knew I couldn't take apart a rifle with marvelous accuracy. I fitted it with a Leupold 3-9 x 50mm scope and it's now headed to my son. The 30-06 I just might keep as it's so accurate and actually fun to shoot now. I guess I may have to just buy a 35 whelen if I want one. None of the 721's I have owned were glass or pillar bedded. The barrels are not free floated, however all have been very accurate.
     

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    simon you and a lot more!! you joined after bart disappeared from the site, which was a shame as he liked to stir it up a bit :D
     
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    I like the 06, it's better now than it was 60yrs ago.
     

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    No no no ........animals are much tougher and harder to kill now..
    And with the power of the Internet the animals have learned to read the forums and figured out how to stay out of range. That's why we all need high BC bullets at warp speed..
     

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