The Cartridge Which Is Loved By Some, Loathed By Many, But Known By All

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  1. Hoss Delgado

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    Foxi , don't discourage him !!!! :(
    Do you have any idea how hard it was for me to get my hands on a .460 WBY
    MAG ZKK-602 and three rounds , just so that Mr. Rahman's dream can come true ?
    I had to post on five different online chat rooms and FB pages !! :(
    Yeah.... It was HELL trying to find it . No one around here ( Texas ) keeps one of these bad boys around anymore :(
     

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    Obviously, we have lots of smart people here in Texas!
     

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    What's going on in Texas ?

    This is not a problem in France to find a rifle caliber 460WM , even one of our former presidents had one , by the way , made by the same gunmaker as mine in Strasbourg , and also on a Brevex action.
     

  4. Hoss Delgado

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    Joe ,you couldn't have picked a worse time to rub it in my face :( . I just lost the biggest feral hog l've ever seen last week after shooting it with 00 Buck from my BRNO ZH- 301 ( the one the wife got me )
    :( . Now , Dad's telling me that if l just used my .405 Win on it , it wouldn't have gotten away .
     
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    I cant belive, in Texas, lone star state, the land of guns, chuck norris, and texas rangers, one of top three - gun owners - 2nd amendment states in US, you can find only three (3) - .460 WBY rounds!?
     

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    I told you use Brenneke slugs not buckshot on bigger things....

    Your Dad is right...
     

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    Not funny , Joe ! :(
    I had to trade 2 boxes of Kynamco .350 Rigby Magnum SP ammo for those 3 bloody .460 rounds and borrowing that gun . :( And l burnt a quarter tank of gas , driving to go pick it up !
     

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    But IvW , l thought you once wrote here that you still hunt bush pigs with Buck shot ? :( . Or did you ditch that too ?
     
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    Kurp , where are you when we need you ? ! :(
     
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    Dude , you have no idea . It turns out we can get anything .... except the one thing that Mr. Rahman dreams of trying :(
     
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    Hoss, we live in surprising World, obviously! :)
     
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    Hoss, it's not my intention :)
    Here are some gas pressures for comparison (is it also tested in America in "bar"?)
    .416 Rem. 4300 bar
    .416 Rigby 3250
    .460 Weatherby 4.400 bar
    .470 NE 2.400 bar !!!
    .458 WM 3.800 bar
    .577 NE 2.200 !!! bar
    9,3x74 R 3.000 bar
    Factory loads
     

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    Almost incomprehensible !:)

    The 460WM is in the meantime a european cartridge. Every week a rifle caliber 460WM is offered for sale in Germany.
     
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    I am most appreciative of the very thorough manner in which you have simplified the matter for me to understand. That you so much. In such a case , l do believe that the owners who had the calibre of the double barrel rifles changed from .458 Winchester magnum calibre to something more traditional , did good for the long term benefit of the rifle. I am very curious to know what became of my client’s Holland and Holland double barrel .458 Winchester magnum calibre rifle . Did he eventually have it converted to another calibre ? Did the double barrel rifle eventually get damaged ? I wish l had some way of knowing . Seeing it get fired eleven times , is not a good indication of it’s long term durability . Some times , l even wonder if some of the double barrel rifles listed for selling on the internet might actually by some twist of fate , end up being that very double barrel rifle which l had seen five decades ago.
     
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    in my homestate (Bavaria,no Second Amendment) you can get a Bore Snake for the .460
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    after all ;)
     

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    IvW and Manuel Delgado are correct , . In India and Bangladesh , the boars can get up to three hundred pounds live weight. My friend , Captain Newaz recently came over with his 12 bore John Dickson and Son side by side shot-gun to shoot some of the boars which had broken into the tea gardens from Maulvibazaar ( sadly , this happens a few times of the year ) . He shot a boar with a 70 millimeter Eley Alphamax LG ( 8 pellet ) cartridge at a distance of four yards between the two shoulder blades. It dropped , only to spring up again. Newaz had to run after it and shoot it two more times to kill it. He is fortunate that it did not charge at him ( although , he has faced charges before ) . These beasts have large tusks and if they hit you in the legs , they can even rupture a femoral artery .
    Use only slug bullets or a good central fire rifle of at least .30 calibre .
    Your under lever .405 calibre rifle would do beautifully. It is unfortunate that you left the poor creature to die a lingering death .
     
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    But Mr. Rahman , you killed so many Indian hogs with 0 buck ! :( I was trying to replicate what you did , but with an O/U ;)
     
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    Young man , you should be ashamed of yourself . In what part of my accounts did you read me saying that l thought it was a good idea ?
    What will you do next ? Go after a Royal Bengal tiger with a shot-gun and SG cartridges ? What will Fernando say ? That l am influencing his grand son in a negative manner .
    End this foolishness. Use German slug type projectiles or your beautiful .405 calibre under lever rifle or your .350 Rigby magnum bolt operation rifle or your .375 Holland and Holland magnum bolt operation rifle for ethical and clean killing .
     
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    :( . Okay , .405 then ! :D
     
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    Hoss, What I understand, in other words - you should grow up! :)
     
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