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Part of that is due to the change of philosophy of this administration compared to the last. This administration is not as interested in giving "aid" per se, but is still supplying lots and lots of materiel and services but for a price. So the U.S. remains the most important support system for Ukraine in the war, but now there is often a price tag attached. Literally.
Damn right, we can help them and also benefit; you have to remember that Ukraine government linked hackers were some of the most prevalent perpetrators of cyber crime against the USA and Canada before the war started and I believe Ukraine was #2 for money laundering in the world as well.

With all that USA ordinance that was sent over I hope it gave us the chance to clear out aging ordinance and put it to good use instead of paying to demil it, as for the expensive stuff that is being sold to Ukraine; I’m sure there is generous financial terms.

After all, Russia didn’t pay off its WWII lend lease debt until 2006.

I’m all about helping out but you have to prevent excesses and abuse.
 
Except the dollars they (mostly illegal immigrants) get come from the taxpayers. In CA the decision to give free healthcare to illegal immigrants cost billions. At the same time legal residents have to pay close to $1K/month for insurance.
But if they were made legal, then they would be taxed and require insurance and become cogs in the capitalist machine, no?
 
Never in a million years would I have thought that you could grow a pumpkin in Labrador!

20+ hours of sunlight per day performs magic.

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But if they were made legal, then they would be taxed and require insurance and become cogs in the capitalist machine, no?
I doubt that. Little or no English, little or no education. The ones that work only benefit the economy as an illegal underclass others sponge off tax payers. One is only fit for unskilled manual labor at below minimum wage and the other isn’t fit for anything.
 
I think France has a problem with debt, although their national debt is lower by GDP etc than the U.S. national debt. The U.S. has some better economic tools to deal with that problem.

Canada and Quebec, have a much smaller debt by any measure, than either the United States or France. I think we are in pretty good shape. No one in Quebec is revolting over education costs. They go on strike once in a while but that is what students do.

The American government debt is larger than Frances' proportionately, and much larger than Canada's proportionately.

So the lesson is that long term spending beyond your means doesn't work, no matter how you pronounce your last name or whether your country is socialist or capitalist or whatever the U.S. currently is.

And yes the ratchet tends to only go one way, and people do get spoiled by handouts.
That’s what students do? Really? We all went to college with a few liberal wingnuts but it’s getting much worse. Did you go on strike? I’m thinking you did. I did not.
 
You’re not wrong there. But they’re already there, might as well get them contributing so they can be profited from them. Poor people pump every dollar they have back into the economy
It’s not worth it but keep telling yourselves it is so you don’t seem “racist.”
 
Correct the U.S. finally wised up.

Allow me a boring over used analogy please.

It’s like watching your neighbors never going to work, constantly on vacation, spending on frivolous things, wasting money all the while excoriating you for not helping to pay for their lifestyle.

and then asking you to fund replacing their roof.

Instead, you say, I will help you, but you’re paying for it.
Perhaps then you (Europe) stop living the lavish lifestyle and pay for your own defense

Lavish lifestyle..:LOL. ..Remember overhere we are all socialist so we don`t work. So natually americans are paying for everything. I would stop paying from today if I was an american. It would become the best thing ever happened to you and to us. You can get gasprices down, cheaper medical bills and maybe even cheaper burgers. We on the other hand learn to get up in the mornings to actually try to go to work otherwise we starve. The party is over!.
Write to your congress man in DC and state europeans no longer need american hard earned honest dollars. The europeans must row their own boat and grow up.

Is this about right?..
 
But if they were made legal, then they would be taxed and require insurance and become cogs in the capitalist machine, no?
You really think all the millions of third world, unskilled, uneducated, illiterate border crossers (lots of women with young children) are going to contribute more to the USA than they take? You are either unbelievably ignorant or dishonest? You pick.
 
You’re not wrong there. But they’re already there, might as well get them contributing so they can be profited from them. Poor people pump every dollar they have back into the economy
Poor people that are illegally in the USA try to live off of every social service they can; because they pump every dollar they can back to the 3rd world country they came from.

FYI - Indian remittances have beat out the Mexicans with $123Bil dollar sent back to India last year from the USA alone that completely left our economy….. and when they announced Microsoft and other abusers of the H1-B program were suspended- The next day the Indian stock market had its worst day in history!

As for the truly “poor people” in the USA that are here illegally, they claim the un earned child income tax credit, so they literally make a net profit from filling their taxes.

Not to mention the healthcare cost like @Tanks pointed out, Parkland hospital in Dallas TX is one of the busiest birthing centers in the country and 50% of the children born there are to illegal immigrants that have no health coverage and just show up at the ER when their water breaks and further complicate the situation by presenting stolen/fake ID.

My mother once worked there and left because she got tired of people bitching at her for not speaking Spanish.
 
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Lavish lifestyle..:LOL. ..Remember overhere we are all socialist so we don`t work. So natually americans are paying for everything. I would stop paying from today if I was an american. It would become the best thing ever happened to you and to us. You can get gasprices down, cheaper medical bills and maybe even cheaper burgers. We on the other hand learn to get up in the mornings to actually try to go to work otherwise we starve. The party is over!.
Write to your congress man in DC and state europeans no longer need american hard earned honest dollars. The europeans must row their own boat and grow up.

Is this about right?..

My analogy was many European nations choose to spend on lavish socialist programs instead of national defense. Not all. Poland didn’t allow its borders to be overrun and could take on Russia by themselves.

It’s like driving a Rolls Royce and living in a cardboard box. Which is all fine. Just don’t ask me to pay for your new house until you sell your luxury car.
 
That’s what students do? Really? We all went to college with a few liberal wingnuts but it’s getting much worse. Did you go on strike? I’m thinking you did. I did not.
Happens in Quebec all the time. I know I didn't go to school there, and I would guess you didn't, but they have been doing strikes and walk outs there for decades. Generations. It is not revolutionary in any sense of the word, and it is not incited by Islam or foreign powers.

Quebec culture is different than the rest of Canada. It takes a little effort to understand it, but it is worth it if you want to have an informed opinion on what goes on there.

The whole world is not measured by how you and I went to school. People do things differently and think differently in different places.
 
Happens in Quebec all the time. I know I didn't go to school there, and I would guess you didn't, but they have been doing strikes and walk outs there for decades. Generations. It is not revolutionary in any sense of the word, and it is not incited by Islam or foreign powers.

Quebec culture is different than the rest of Canada. It takes a little effort to understand it, but it is worth it if you want to have an informed opinion on what goes on there.

The whole world is not measured by how you and I went to school. People do things differently and think differently in different places.

Sounds more like spoiled entitled brats. And it’s tolerated. Quebec students walk out in “solidarity” of French students.

What a joke. The result when you don’t have to pay for something.

My dad would’ve beat my ass and make me pay back every penny. Then he would then say “I guess play Time’s over time to go to work and get a job”.
 
Sounds more like spoiled entitled brats. And it’s tolerated. Quebec students walk out in “solidarity” of French students.

What a joke. The result when you don’t have to pay for something.

My dad would’ve beat my ass and make me pay back every penny. Then he would then say “I guess play Time’s over time to go to work and get a job”.
I guess your dad is not Quebecois. Fortunately the world doesn't revolve around your ass and the Quebec education system still seems to work fine.

BTW, these students we are talking about are in CEGEP or younger, which is kind of like Grade 12 or 13ish. I think that is free in the U.S. isn't it? Did you have to pay for Grade 12 or 13 if you have it?

The vast majority of the students in these protests are between 12 and 17, which I think also get free education in the United States at that age. Is that a joke in your country too? How much would you have had to pay back for skipping school for a few days at age 16 or so?
 

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