Politics

[Big_Easy]

Israel is the most tolerant nation in the Middle East.

Yes they are, but that's a very low bar buddy.

 

[Big_Easy]

Big_Easy, you are an idiot.

Israel was attacked in 1948 primarily because Arab nations and Palestinian leaders rejected the UN-partitioned creation of a Jewish state on May 14, 1948, following the end of the British Mandate. The Arab League aimed to prevent the establishment of Israel, block the partition plan, and protect Arab interests, resulting in an invasion by surrounding Arab armies.

ISRAEL WAS ATTACKED in 1948. If the Arab Nations and Palestinians hadn't attacked, the world may have been a much different place.

AJ

So just so I understand you, your position is that since Arab's attached the Israeli's, that anything the Jews did after that is perfectly acceptable behavior?

 

[Tanks]

You do realize this is the same sick shit that the Israeli's did back in 1948 to the Palestinians right. Nobody over there is innocent. Dead civilians, human shields, mass rape...it happens on all sides.

A clear case of whataboutism that goes back almost a hundred years to justify atrocities of today.

In regard to Palestinian casualties in the recent war against Hamas. They elected Hamas whose manifesto is eradication of Israel. They are responsible for what their government does and did.

Not to mention Palestinians are a lost cause. There is a reason other Arab countries will not have anything to do with them or accept them in their countries as all they know is terrorism.

 

[AJ Peacock]

So just so I understand you, your position is that since Arab's attached the Israeli's, that anything the Jews did after that is perfectly acceptable behavior?

I never said nor implied anything of the sort. The Arabs/Palestinians threw the first punch, immediately, unprovoked and caused all the actions that came afterward.

AJ

 

[Big_Easy]

The Arabs/Palestinians threw the first punch

These religious zealots have been waring for thousands of years. Saying that the Palestinians "threw the first punch" (in 1948) is the greatest oversimplification of history I've ever heard in my entire life...

 

[Brent in Az]

 

[AJ Peacock]

These religious zealots have been waring for thousands of years. Saying that the Palestinians "threw the first punch" (in 1948) is the greatest oversimplification of history I've ever heard in my entire life...

You are the one that brought up Israeli's actions in 1948, go back a page and read your own post! Talk about whitewash!!!!

AJ

 

[Big_Easy]

A clear case of whataboutism that goes back almost a hundred years to justify atrocities of today.

In regard to Palestinian casualties in the recent war against Hamas. They elected Hamas whose manifesto is eradication of Israel. They are responsible for what their government does and did.

Not to mention Palestinians are a lost cause. There is a reason other Arab countries will not have anything to do with them or accept them in their countries as all they know is terrorism.

I never said these actions stopped in 1948, they've been going on ever since then too. The Israeli army still uses human shields to this very day. It would be different if it happened 100 years ago and then stopped. But it didn't. I have no problem if the religious fruitcakes want to kill each other until the end of time. Just don't bring America into someone else's holy war. And then spend 10s of billions of my tax dollars to do so. And also get American's killed

"There is a reason other Arab countries will not have anything to do with them or accept them in their countries as all they know is terrorism."...Every country in the middle east is chock-full of terrorists man. Saudi Arabia = 9/11 buddy. I don't recall any Palestinians on those airplanes.

"They elected Hamas"...Not the current Palestinian people, no they didn't. The average Gazan Born Palestinian was born after Hamas came to power. So if they weren't even alive when the vote took place, how could they have voted for Hamas?

 

[WAB]

Yes they are, but that's a very low bar buddy.

You are completely clueless, and I am most certainly NOT your buddy.

 

[HuntingGold]

Just got tired of it.... and another hits the ignore list

 

[Doug Hamilton]

Ok boomer. Given that baby-boomer generation politicians have racked up 10s of trillions in debt, and gotten the US into multiple wars, along with numerous devastating recessions...maybe the "grow-ups" are doing a shitty job? And should consider closing their mouths from time to time rather than trying to scold younger generations for pointing our their numerous failures? Just a thought.

God, what a sophomoric little twit. (You might want to.look up "sophomoric.") People that have education and life experience aren't going to pay attention to some obnoxious little puke that thinks he has all the answers but lives in the arrogance of naivety.

 

[Big_Easy]

A clear case of whataboutism

No, I'm simply highlighting your lack of concern for Israeli atrocities, and only those perpetrated against them. If not, then why not call out wrongdoing on the other side?

 

[Big_Easy]

God, what a sophomoric little twit. (You might want to.look up "sophomoric.") People that have education and life experience aren't going to pay attention to some obnoxious little puke that thinks he has all the answers but lives in the arrogance of naivety.

@Doug Hamilton Lets keep score, insults on me...7? Maybe 8?...Actual responses to important points brought up in my numerous posts...Zero.

I love how your first and second responses are to resort to childish insults rather than actually discuss anything of substance. Any fact based arguments and cited sources from you about the litany of other topics I've posted about, such as the...
Debt/Deficit? No.
What about Fossil Fuels? No.
Renewable Energy? No.
Environmental Concerns? No.
Iran War? No.
Healthcare? No.
The Epstein Files? No.
Six dead services members in the port shuaiba attack? No.
The SAVE Act? No.
Outsourcing of Jobs/Trade Deals? No.
Shareholder Value Theory? No.
The absurdity of the memes being posted here? No.

If your education is so significant and your life experience so vast, please share it with me. Pick any of the topics above...or a new one perhaps?

And by the way, LOL means "Laugh out Loud." It originated in chat rooms in the 1980s, and reached common usage in the early 2000s. It was added to the OED in 2011 (you might want to look it up).

 

[KJE81]

@Pondoro you forgot the two unstated goals as well; 1) distract from the Epstein files, and 2) distract from his lagging poll numbers on domestic issues. Also...

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I have seen quite a few posts on Facebook referring to the campaign as "Operation Epstein Fury"...but not in MSM, I would think that their are easier and cheaper ways of diverting attention from the Epstein files then to start a war, at least I hope that he did not start this war for that reason.

 

[KJE81]

I listen to some of European friends saying we should have asked permission or asked them to help, or talked to them first.

When I do a home project, I ask my 5 year old if she wants to help. Sometimes yes and sometimes no, either way the project gets done. Her answer is ultimately irrelevant but I ask her because it makes her feel good to help.

The similarities are mind boggling.

Actually to some degree Trump has behaved a little like your 5 year might have, or at least mine does that sometimes, ie going back and forth changing his/her mind

For example, just over three days in march is was like this:

March 14: Wants allied/naval help
Trump said: "Hopefully China, France, Japan, South Korea, the UK, and others, that are affected by this artificial constraint, will send Ships".

March 16: Urges allies to join quickly
‘We will remember’: Trump warns countries to help secure Strait of Hormuz as shipping stalls
On Monday, Trump said "numerous countries" were "on their way to help".

Marc 17: Declares the US does not need help from anyone.
“Because of the fact that we have had such Military Success, we no longer ‘need,’ or desire, the NATO Countries’ assistance — WE NEVER DID!” he wrote on Truth Social. “Likewise, Japan, Australia, or South Korea. In fact, speaking as President of the United States of America, by far the Most Powerful Country Anywhere in the World, WE DO NOT NEED THE HELP OF ANYONE!”

Perhaps the US allies are finding it hard to take what he says serious when he goes back and forth so much in just a few days?

 

[Pondoro]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

·2h



"Operation Midnight Hammer was a complete and total obliteration of the Nuclear Dust sites in Iran. Therefore, digging it out will be a long and difficult process. Fake News CNN, and other corrupt Media Networks and Platforms, fail to give our great aviators the credit they deserve - Always trying to demean and belittle - LOSERS!!! "

I was accused of jew hate yesterday and the name Joseph Goebbels came up. He was Hitlers minister of propaganda..

The nazis alaways attacked the press when they wrote something they disliked. A historical fact.
They (Goebbels) used the word Lying Press (german Lügenpresse).

Now, I am not calling Trump a nazi but he is toting the same accusations against the press he dislike, precisely like the nazis did. I doubt he is aware of it but it is methodically the same anti-democratic slander Herrn Goebbels made famous..

Corrupt media my ass.

 

[Foxi]

From Google AI.......
"The United States spends approximately $933 million to $980 billion annually on NATO, depending on whether you count direct administrative costs or total military defense."

We'll give you that money back when the EU refunds the TRILLIONS we've wasted on NATO for the last few decades......

Yes, I guess I exaggerated, a bit .
But don't forget that the US's annual interest payments exceed its military budget.
Without debt repayment!!!
I'm convinced that the petrodollar won't dominate the world on its own in the next 10 years, and then you'll be in serious trouble.

Of course, NATO—especially the American one—protected us during the Cold War. To deny that would be foolish, and my generation was lucky that it was true. Thank you America .!
But it didn't come for nothing.Only one example: For decades, European states had to buy billions of US dollars to help finance it all.I suspect you're far too young to remember the Bretton Woods system, which lasted well into the 1970s.
Furthermore, a military presence secures one's own economic interests. A truism, but true and effective.

Today, central banks are buying more gold than US dollars.
Isn't that a huge warning sign?

Regards
Foxi

 

[Altitude sickness]

You may want to research how Social and legacy Media was carrying Obama’s and Biden’s water. Facebook owner Zuckerberg and others testified under oath that the Biden regime had a direct line to approve or disapprove of messaging during COVID.

The Biden administration would strong arm FB into De-platforming anyone that discussed a lab leak, ivermectin, the uselessness of masks Etc.

The Media went on a 6 month campaign along with the CIA to discredit the Hunter laptop as Russia disinformation.

The Russia Hoax had huge obvious holes that a quick look by a real reporter would have uncovered. The media pushed that narrative for 2 years.

All above have been 100% proven to be true. The legacy media is a wing of the democrat party.

The Media went dormant during the Obama and Biden regimes. And amazingly woke up when Trump got re-elected. Remember before the message went out to the media from the Democrats that Biden was out. The toughest question he got from the leftist media was what flavor of ice cream he liked.

Before you bring up Fox and other more conservative leaning media, Fox is cable and a recent phenomenon because the conservatives never got fair reporting. It’s a response to the lack of an honest legacy media.

The legacy media is purposely pumped into homes free of charge on 3 major FREE networks.

 

[KJE81]

You may want to research how Social and legacy Media was carrying Obama’s and Biden’s water. Facebook owner Zuckerberg and others testified under oath that the Biden regime had a direct line to approve or disapprove of messaging during COVID.

The Biden administration would strong arm FB into De-platforming anyone that discussed a lab leak, ivermectin, the uselessness of masks Etc.

The Media went on a 6 month campaign along with the CIA to discredit the Hunter laptop as Russia disinformation.

The Russia Hoax had huge obvious holes that a quick look by a real reporter would have uncovered. The media pushed that narrative for 2 years.

All above have been 100% proven to be true. The legacy media is a wing of the democrat party.

The Media went dormant during the Obama and Biden regimes. And amazingly woke up when Trump got re-elected. Remember before the message went out to the media from the Democrats that Biden was out. The toughest question he got from the leftist media was what flavor of ice cream he liked.

Before you bring up Fox and other more conservative leaning media, Fox is cable and a recent phenomenon because the conservatives never got fair reporting. It’s a response to the lack of an honest legacy media.

The legacy media is purposely pumped into homes free of charge on 3 major FREE networks.

At least now CNN will probably turn into Foxnews aswell, I assume that CNN is one of the 3 FREE networks?

It sounds a bit like Ellison has promised to make it so in order to get Trumps approval for the deal.

I have seen multiple articles saying that Trump has publicly stated that “it’s imperative that CNN be sold” and that he has called the network’s current leadership a “disgrace.” Presumably because they currently are not favoring the hard right in their reporting.

Reporting indicates that David Ellison previously assured Trump administr ation officials that if he acquired Warner (and thus CNN), he would make sweeping changes to CNN.

CNN Is Set for Trump-Friendly New Owners: How Jake Tapper & Tony Dokoupil Reacted

Fans fear it could mean big changes at CNN.

www.tvinsider.com

 

[Altitude sickness]

CNN is also cable. For full 24/7 service. You need a subscription plan of some type. Satellite, cable etc.
CNN is slowly getting more objective. But the political operatives they employ ( Jake Tapper, Dana Bash) do not like the new direction. And will need to learn to be less biased towards Democrats or find a new job.