Politics

[Marine 1]

Yes the taxes are higher here, but that has nothing to do with the recent price increase. The taxes are a set amount per gallon.
The oil situation seems to be hitting some states harder .
We were an average of $2.99 before the Iran situation, and it has now increased by almost $1.00 in some areas

We are at war. Americans are putting their lives on the line, so far 6 have made the ultimate sacrifices. They are fighting the war, the least we can do is tolerate a little increase in price. What we are doing in Iran is worth the price of temporary gas spikes. Do not let the brave Americans fighting for us known that while they are in danger beyond belief we at home are protesting gas prices. I went through all that while I was in Vietnam. It has a horrible effect on those fighting. I have a picture of a gas pump when biden was POTUS it shows 20 gallons for 100 dollars and we had plenty of oil.

 

[farmer_john]

We are at war. Americans are putting their lives on the line, so far 6 have made the ultimate sacrifices. They are fighting the war, the least we can do is tolerate a little increase in price. What we are doing in Iran is worth the price of temporary gas spikes. Do not let the brave Americans fighting for us known that while they are in danger beyond belief we at home are protesting gas prices. I went through all that while I was in Vietnam. It has a horrible effect on those fighting. I have a picture of a gas pump when biden was POTUS it shows 20 gallons for 100 dollars and we had plenty of oil.

Correction..
What we are doing to China.
Iran and venezuala are sideshows. We just clipped 20% chinas oil supply in 2 months

 

[Marine 1]

Correction..
What we are doing to China.
Iran and venezuala are sideshows. We just clipped 20% chinas oil supply in 2 months

True but that is good. China is smart they have a plan b to get oil.

 

[Pheroze]

personally think the most likely power to supplant the government is the Iranian Army. It is separate from the RGC and has chaffed under its control since the foundation of the Islamic State. The Kurds will be a geographically isolated complication for the regime.

As a Zoroastrian, I ascribe to the idea that this regime is an occupying group, with the true Persian culture suppressed under it. Iran is more my ancestral home than any direct link to family. But I remember well the refugees coming in to Toronto to avoid being hung from bridges.

Do you know whether the army is more sympathetic of the Persians? Or is it also a creature of the regime?

 

[spike.t]

The war with Iran is more evidence that winning the fights you can't see is critical in modern combat

Fighting a modern war depends heavily on hidden battles. It's not only about how many bombs a military can drop on its enemy.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[spike.t]

What a clown show.....fkn useless tossers....

Leak from secret UK meeting about US attacks on Iran a travesty, says Lammy

Justice secretary calls for inquiry into reports of cabinet splits at national security council over use of British bases

www.theguardian.com

 

[Marine 1]

As a Zoroastrian, I ascribe to the idea that this regime is an occupying group, with the true Persian culture suppressed under it. Iran is more my ancestral home than any direct link to family. But I remember well the refugees coming in to Toronto to avoid being hung from bridges.

Do you know whether the army is more sympathetic of the Persians? Or is it also a creature of the regime?

I think the Kurds will play a big part before this is over. At some point the regime will collapse. This is long overdue. The people of Iran especially the women have suffered.

 

[Brent in Az]

Japan surrendered because of the eminent threat of more A-Bombs being dropped on them.
Iran knows the U.S won't nuke them, unless Iran launched first.
It's unlikely that Iran will commit to any unconditional surrender, unless overrun by ground forces, which could not happen without a coalition of other countries willing to commit troops......and that is highly unlikely as well.
All the U.S can do is destroy all military and leadership targets, and blockade the sea lanes.

 

[Brent in Az]

Russia quietly helping Iran target U.S military assets

 

[Marine 1]

Japan surrendered because of the eminent threat of more A-Bombs being dropped on them.
Iran knows the U.S won't nuke them, unless Iran launched first.
It's unlikely that Iran will commit to any unconditional surrender, unless overrun by ground forces, which could not happen without a coalition of other countries willing to commit troops......and that is highly unlikely as well.
All the U.S can do is destroy all military and leadership targets, and blockade the sea lanes.

The US does not need any help. The so-called coalition forces contribute nothing. Land the United States Marines and Army Rangers and it will be over in 100 hours like Desert Storm. But I do not see that happening. Iranians will have to rise up for their own future. I pray they will take advantage of this. It is their best opportunity in the last 50 years. During WW2 we were at war with the country of Japan, not just the military. Here we are hitting only military targets. There will be some unintended deaths but that is war. Estimates are the Irani's killed 50,000 of their own people in the last few weeks. I personally hate war, I spent 19 months in Vietnam, I hate it. But wars are necessary, they solve problems. Japan was a problem only war would solve, same with Germany and Italy. Iran exhausted all efforts to make this peaceful. They are a problem only war will solve. It is long overdue.

 

[LivingTheDream]

Russia quietly helping Iran target U.S military assets

Yeah they dont exactly have a lot of ways to launch an attack right now.

 

[Marine 1]

Russia quietly helping Iran target U.S military assets

Doesn't matter. Russia has nothing to add. They are much weaker than Iran.

 

[Brent in Az]

Doesn't matter. Russia has nothing to add. They are much weaker than Iran.

You might want to debate that with Red Leg who probably knows more about that than anyone here.
A country with at least a couple thousand Nukes is not exactly what you would call weak.

 

[roverandbrew]

The US does not need any help. The so-called coalition forces contribute nothing. Land the United States Marines and Army Rangers and it will be over in 100 hours like Desert Storm. But I do not see that happening. Iranians will have to rise up for their own future. I pray they will take advantage of this. It is their best opportunity in the last 50 years. During WW2 we were at war with the country of Japan, not just the military. Here we are hitting only military targets. There will be some unintended deaths but that is war. Estimates are the Irani's killed 50,000 of their own people in the last few weeks. I personally hate war, I spent 19 months in Vietnam, I hate it. But wars are necessary, they solve problems. Japan was a problem only war would solve, same with Germany and Italy. Iran exhausted all efforts to make this peaceful. They are a problem only war will solve. It is long overdue.

There is ZERO parallel between the Gulf War and what is happening in Iran.

 

[cwpayton]

We will not do a major land incursion into Iran. It is a country the size of Alaska with a population of nearly 100,000 million. Based on the Balkans (successful) and Iraq (barely so) just a peace enforcement mission would require four or five divisions. We already have a 12 division mission for a ten division force. Even if we decided to do it, it would take at least six-months to assemble such a multi-corps land force in the Gulf. There has not been an iota of preparation for such an action.

We did not have air superiority over Vietnam. Over the North, where all the logistics and manpower originated after 68, the air was contested to the very end of the conflict. Hence our severe losses.

It will be interesting to see if some sort of culmination can be achieved by air alone. It has not been successful in the past, but in spite of Trump's rather confusing, "unconditional surrender" demand, the actual bar seems pretty low and perhaps achievable. Give up your nuclear program, cease production of long range missiles, and end support to regional proxies.

I personally think the most likely power to supplant the government is the Iranian Army. It is separate from the RGC and has chaffed under its control since the foundation of the Islamic State. The Kurds will be a geographically isolated complication for the regime.

I sincerely hope that is a correct diagnosis, that would allow a shorter conclusion .
As I type this ,reports of large numbers of troops and commanders fleeing their bases, apparently the non stop bombing is having a pysc. affect on the IRGC. Or they just arent that dedicated to martyrdom.

 

[Red Leg]

There is ZERO parallel between the Gulf War and what is happening in Iran.

Concur.

 

[farmer_john]

You might want to debate that with Red Leg who probably knows more about that than anyone here.
A country with at least a couple thousand Nukes is not exactly what you would call weak.

I think were talking conventionally.

 

[Brent in Az]

I think were talking conventionally.

Putin is not a conventional kinda guy.

 

[CoElkHunter]

True but that is good. China is smart they have a plan b to get oil.

I'm not sure China has a plan B? IMO, their "plan A", and only plan, was that Iran would never close the Strait of Hormuz and the flow of 50% of China's oil import needs from the Middle East would continue forever. China might be able to get some more oil from Russia but only a fraction of what they need.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

I'm not sure China has a plan B? IMO, their "plan A", and only plan, was that Iran would never close the Strait of Hormuz and the flow of 50% of China's oil import needs from the Middle East would continue forever. China might be able to get some more oil from Russia but only a fraction of what they need.

Chinas plan B is a Canada