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On another note, wasn’t there a bank in Colorado that would give you a rifle for opening an account at one point and time!
That was the Bank Of Boulder in Boulder. You basically opened a CD for XX years and they gave you a rifle in lue of the interest. The rifles were Weatherby Mark V's.

I've seen other banks do similar programs.
 
The banks were regulated long before Harper came along. Given the Conservatives' typical posturing against govt regulation, I would assume they had little or no part in formulating Canadian banking regulations. That would be Liberal or NDP bailiwick.

Replies like this are why my participation is greatly reduced on this forum. It would be
awesome if you could take a moment to ask yourself:
1) do I understand what has been said?
2) do I know anything about it?
3) will my reply add to the discussion?
 
Replies like this are why my participation is greatly reduced on this forum. It would be
awesome if you could take a moment to ask yourself:
1) do I understand what has been said?
2) do I know anything about it?
3) will my reply add to the discussion?

... and your participation is one reason I do enjoy this forum.
 
Agreed. Canadian banks didn’t bundle derivative risks and skated through 2008 unscathed. Harper was a stellar leader through that crisis. Hard to believe Canadians traded him in for a blackface clown.
Bill Clinton’s pushing the banks to give sub-prime loans started the mess. Clinton wanted everyone to own a home, even if they had no business trying to buy a home. Banks resisted initially. Some people also don’t know that “sub-prime” has nothing to do with prime interest rates. It’s a term invented to make people with low credit ratings sound not as undesirable. It was about sub-prime credit rated borrowers. This then led to derivatives and stacking these sub-prime loads together.
 
Replies like this are why my participation is greatly reduced on this forum. It would be
awesome if you could take a moment to ask yourself:
1) do I understand what has been said?
2) do I know anything about it?
3) will my reply add to the discussion?

I hate it when the village idiots cause very knowledgeable persons such as you to hold back sharing their knowledge. I learn so much from fellow AH members who are experts in their fields.

That's why I employ the Ignore function. I admit that my curiosity often compels me to open an ignored post to learn what the ruckus is about. Because I chose to ignore those posts, I just shake my head in disbelief and move on.
 
Bill Clinton’s pushing the banks to give sub-prime loans started the mess. Clinton wanted everyone to own a home, even if they had no business trying to buy a home. Banks resisted initially. Some people also don’t know that “sub-prime” has nothing to do with prime interest rates. It’s a term invented to make people with low credit ratings sound not as undesirable. It was about sub-prime credit rated borrowers. This then led to derivatives and stacking these sub-prime loads together.
Scott, Unfortunately Clinton and Barney Frank were just one example of politicians thinking because they hold office they somehow instantaneously gained IQ, knowledge and wisdom. And their constituents believe it also.

Everything the government subsidizes it either destroys or causes its cost to explode.

Government school loans. Colleges can charge what ever they want. The government is backing it.

Obamacare, Insurance companies wrote the bill and of course as with anything the government subsidizes the costs skyrocketed.


And ESPECIALLY housing. The government programs drastically increase housing costs and risk of default.
 
The gal works for the investments branch of a chartered bank. Probably the second or third largest bank in Canada. Her people generally bring in seven to eleven percent per year on my investments. Even last year with the economy reeling from Trumpitis they still managed to find me eight percent overall. If I can stay even with inflation I'm satisfied. Things are a lot more heavily regulated up here, thankfully, so I'm not worried. Sure, I pay them well, but every penny comes off my income when calculating taxes. And I do keep an eye on what they're doing. So far my investment gal's advice has been spot on.
Seven to eleven percent? I would have fired them and switched. Bank brokerage houses usually don’t produce the best returns or attract the best talent.
 
Seven to eleven percent? I would have fired them and switched. Bank brokerage houses usually don’t produce the best returns or attract the best talent.
I'm in it for the long haul not a quick buck. I already have plenty of money and don't need to take risks trying to make more in a hurry. Hence most of my investments are in modest but stable returns, e.g. bonds and shares in Canadian banks. I'm debt free and live relatively modestly so don't require a huge income. I'm content if my return on investments can stay in the neighborhood of inflation. But even then I'm easily able to gain ground. I have pension income that I'm sure I could live on even without the investment income. Why should I take risks speculating? That would be stupid.
 
As for the stability of U.S. banks, the Federal Reserve has required major banks - that’s all I really monitor - to undergo stress tests to demonstrate the ability to withstand various declines à la the Global Financial Crisis. The issue of business stability and regulatory capital is too complicated to explain with a post, but there are good and bad outcomes that appear in the real economy, the financial markets, and even within operations of companies large and small, and that ranges from capital expenditure programs to wider credit spreads to volatility in equities, credit swaps, etc. There is risk in everything. The goal is simply to try to define the risk, and make sure you can handle whatever chunk you invite into your affairs. Small banks that give away rifles, or offer high interest rates on CDs, are doing everything they can to attract deposits to make loans. I know stories of regional banks that had made major loans to developers just before credit crisis and the banks had no idea how much they had lent. These are companies that are listed on the stock exchange. As for Canada’s banks, who cares? It’s an oligopoly atop an economy that is reliant on commodities. The Canadian financial markets have a Wild West reputation. As for regulatory regimes, see if you can find the first edition of Galbraith’s The Great Crash. The final chapter, which if I recall was removed from reprints, talks about the cyclical nature of booms and busts. Moreover, the regulators are always lagging the financial system. Even today, our financial/bank regulations are focused on what has happened. Why? Regulators lack the expertise to see too far into the future, and those that can see ahead are stymied by oversight committees in Senate, House and lobbyists, exchanges, trading firms etc. Buy quality. Focus on dividends. Don’t panic out nor greed in. The markets and economy rise and fall like waves in the ocean. Have a plan. Execute the plan. Stay calm.
 
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As for the stability of U.S. banks, the Federal Reserve has required major banks - that’s all I really monitor - to undergo stress tests to demonstrate the ability to withstand various declines à la the Global Financial Crisis. The issue of business stability and regulatory capital is too complicated to explain with a post, but there are good and bad outcomes that appear in the real economy, the financial markets, and even within operations of companies large and small, and that ranges from capital expenditure programs to wider credit spreads to volatility in equities, credit swaps, etc. There is risk in everything. The goal is simply to try to define the risk, and make sure you can handle whatever chunk you invite into your affairs. Small banks that give away rifles, or offer high interest rates on CDs, are doing everything they can to attract deposits to make loans. I know stories of regional banks that had made major loans to developers just before credit crisis and the banks had no idea how much they had lent. These are companies that are listed on the stock exchange. As for Canada’s banks, who cares? It’s an oligopoly atop an economy that is reliant on commodities. The Canadian financial markets have a Wild West reputation. As for regulatory regimes, see if you can find the first edition of Galbraith’s The Great Crash. The final chapter, which if I recall was removed from reprints, talks about the cyclical nature of booms and busts. Moreover, the regulators are always lagging the financial system. Even today, our financial/bank regulations are focused on what has happened. Why? Regulators lack the expertise to see too far into the future, and those that can see ahead are stymied by oversight committees in Senate, House and lobbyists, exchanges, trading firms etc. Buy quality. Focus on dividends. Don’t panic out nor greed in. The markets and economy rise and falls like waves in the ocean. Have a plan. Execute the plan. Stay calm.
There are two markets in Canada: the Toronto Stock Exchange and the Vacouver Stock Exchange. The latter is definitely in the "Wild West" category, focusing on speculative "venture capital" investing; i.e. resource extraction and development. The TSX is more "conventional." I am not aware if the TSX is any more or less regulated than Wall Street.
 
American banks became a free for all during the 1920’s. The Great Depression changed that. Glass Steagall separated investment banking from commercial banking.

Much of Glass Steagall was revoked in the 90’s allowing commercial banks back into the investment banking sphere. It didn’t take them long to go overboard. 2008 many failed or were bailed out before failure.

The Obama administration allowed the culprits to remain in charge of their institutions and the boards of the bailed out institutions soon started giving large bonuses to the executives. The financial crisis is when Wall Street made a significant switch from backing Republican candidates to Democratic candidates.

IMHO dozens of executives should have lost their jobs and been removed from the industry. Some should have been prosecuted. It might have been more painful but those banks that failed should have been liquidated. If not shareholder value and bond holder value should have been wiped out with the recapitalization by the government giving the government a period of around ten years to sell their ownership back onto the open market. There should never be a system of “ too big to fail”.
 
There are two markets in Canada: the Toronto Stock Exchange and the Vacouver Stock Exchange. The latter is definitely in the "Wild West" category, focusing on speculative "venture capital" investing; i.e. resource extraction and development. The TSX is more "conventional." I am not aware if the TSX is any more or less regulated than Wall Street.
I have experience with your markets, and regulations, and the mergers that have occurred in years past, i.e, Montreal to TSX, which has is trying to fashion itself as one of the major exchange-companies. There is something called regulatory arbitrage that occurs between countries, markets, etc. I am not disparaging Canada. My wife’s mother was Canadian, and we have family there. But comparing your markets to U.S. markets is like comparing the Big 5 to the Tiny 10. America’s stock market capitalization dwarfs the world, and so do our banks. Every country tends to have tax codes that encourage domestic investment, and investment gains made in international markets often carry an added tax liability. Anyway, I come here to get away from all of this stuff. I have only commented on markets, etc, out of feeling that maybe I can give back a little to the many people here from whom I have learned so much over the years.
 
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American banks became a free for all during the 1920’s. The Great Depression changed that. Glass Steagall separated investment banking from commercial banking.

Much of Glass Steagall was revoked in the 90’s allowing commercial banks back into the investment banking sphere. It didn’t take them long to go overboard. 2008 many failed or were bailed out before failure.

The Obama administration allowed the culprits to remain in charge of their institutions and the boards of the bailed out institutions soon started giving large bonuses to the executives. The financial crisis is when Wall Street made a significant switch from backing Republican candidates to Democratic candidates.

IMHO dozens of executives should have lost their jobs and been removed from the industry. Some should have been prosecuted. It might have been more painful but those banks that failed should have been liquidated. If not shareholder value and bond holder value should have been wiped out with the recapitalization by the government giving the government a period of around ten years to sell their ownership back onto the open market. There should never be a system of “ too big to fail”.
Presidents come and go. Wall Street rules forever.
 
Another question that emerges in my mind re this proposed aluminum plant in Oklahoma: if the location is so marvelously ideal, i.e. natural gas for cheap electricity and a viable port with Gulf access, why wasn't a conventional aluminum reduction plant built there during the 50s and 60s heyday of plant construction? It would seem a plant location there would have made much more economic sense than northwestern Montana or Hawesville, Kentucky or Spokane, Washington. Must be a reason. Might be worth investigating before investing.

The operation is estimated to be $4B when built. That does not translate to $4B invested at this point. So it would appear press releases can legally project the cost (value?) of the project in a way that insinuates investment without breaking the law. And subsequent independent reporting can draw their own independent conclusions.

I would say that if this project intends on building its own generating station (a big if since it would need to clear environmental regs and a significant possible hurdle could be obtaining water rights in a predominantly agricultural community that already draws heavily on water resources), it might have the advantage it would need to be competitive. Also, if the reduction plant they plan to build can optionally produce aluminum from conventional imported ore, it might be a more secure long term investment. There can be little doubt in anyone's mind that Trump's tariffs, especially on aluminum, will not survive his term, if they survive that long. Controlling its own power source would definitely give the project the needed advantage to compete even if the feedrock-to-metal scheme fails ... but only if the plant can process conventional ore. But therein lies the question mark. I haven't read anything indicating they intend to integrate horizontally, either obtaining the quarry or their own power source. Or if the plant will have the option of switching to bauxite alumina ore.
 
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Why that new smelter and rock refinery in Oklahoma might be important.

Perhaps we should get more serious about recycling aluminum.

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Okay, why did Gabbard show up in Georgia? She says Trump told her personally on the phone to get involved. Now Trump says Bondi ordered Gabbard to go down. Watch out, Pam. The bus is coming. :D Must be a serious shortage of antacids in D.C. these days.
 
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