Personal Experiences With Rifles Malfunctioning In The Field

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  1. Major Khan

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    Someone upstairs must really like you . You survived 3 encounters with dangerous game , where your rifle jammed . Thank you so much for your input. I am glad that you survived unscathed and lived to hunt another day.
     

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    Thank you so much for your input , Four Five Eight. Over zealous hand loading has often caused many a decent fire arm to malfunction , often during the most unfortunate of moments .
    During my career as a professional shikaree , l often advised my clients who used large calibre rifles for close up shooting of dangerous game to use rifles equipped with a wide V back sight and a bead fore sight for quick , close range shooting . I noticed that telescopic sights sometimes go out of setting when bumped .
     

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    I have also seen an Auguste Francotte double barreled side by side rifle , chambered in .458 Winchester magnum also develop a nasty habit of double discharges , Ben KK . The effects of the unexpected recoil of both barrels going off simultaneously actually caused my unfortunate client to fall out of a macchan once . Unfortunately , the animal we were hunting that day , happened to be a royal Bengal tiger and it was still very much alive and angry when my client had fallen to the ground . I do believe that the incident of this shikar will be an interesting story to write about , on African Hunting Forums tomorrow night.
     

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    My back hurts just reading this...
     
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    1) Remington 700 30-06 bolt doesn’t lock closed when on safe causing it to easily open while slung dropping the chambered round. Fix, none I’m aware of. Some 700s don’t lock the bolt when on safe and some do.
    2) Winchester pre 64 Model 70 carried in the back seat antelope hunting. I pulled it out and stalked. The firing pin dropped, but the cartridge didn’t go off. Rechambered a round and again failure to fire! Looked at the end of the bolt and there was a piece of grass stem padding the firing pin. Fix, cleaned it out and killed a nice antelope. Keep the bolt cloaked on an empty chamber to prevent trash from blowing in.
    3) Kimber 375 H&H load testing the case head tore off during extraction leaving the case lodged in the chamber. Melted Cerosafe and filled the cartridge. When hardened, I tapped it out with a brass rod from the muzzle. Root cause was to many reloads in the case casing case head weakness and separation. Fix, control the number of times I reload a case.
    4) Remington 700 22-250 blown primer. Root cause developing hot loads on cold days and then shooting them on very hot days in a hot sunny location. Fix, develop loads on hot days.
    5) MRC 375 H&H (new) failure to fire on cheap PPU practice ammo. Fix, cleaned and flushed out bolt, firing pin and spring. Lubed well.
    6) MRC 375 H&H failure to feed the last round. Fix, don’t short stroke! The magazine spring is at its weakest point on the last cartridge. A stronger spring might be the best fix. Looking for one.

    I think that’s all. At least all I can remember.
     
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    yes the old 303 is easy to clean and works well

    the 375 was an interarms, custom built rifle
     
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    During 45 years of hunting mainly in Africa but also in Germany and other countries I never ever experienced any kind of malfunctioning. But of course I never purchased average quality but superior rifles and guns from Krieghoff, Sauer and Heym.
     

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    They were 160g Barnes TSX.
     
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    Thank you so much for your excellent input , Ridge Walker. Is your Kimber brand rifle a push feed or a control round feed design ?
     
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    I had a Rem700 30-06 lock up from steel cased Russian ammo. After a few rounds the shellac melted and glued the case into the chamber. Upon trying to extract the case it tore a piece out of the cartridge head. Ended up knocking it out with a dowel. No more steel case ammo.
     
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    I also had a No.4 mk 1 Lee Enfield with headspace that was excessive enough the first round I fired separated the case head. I sold the rifle after that for parts.
     
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    Both the Kimber and MRC are CRF. I just overworked the brass. It stretches just above the web where it thickens for the belted area. My own fault just being too cheap to throw brass away.
     
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    Oh my word, Major!! That incident with the 405 was dangerous!! But as they say "necessity is the mother of invention"!! And quite possibly your client may have been the first to experiment with brass solids that today's monoliths derive.

    My dear Major, my only hope was that you cried with laughter with that experience I posted here. (y)
     
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    In 1979, my brother and I went wild pig hunting in Central California. Anyway, I had handloaded 63gr of H4831 with a 130gr Sierra BT in my .270 Winchester cartridge and Winchester M70 rifle. TOO HOT! I fired at a pig and all I saw was a flash through the scope. Bolt locked closed! I did get the pig though, and a gunsmith got the bolt open and no damage to the rifle. With that same Winchester rifle, I have since taken a number of deer and pronghorn with no issues. I’ve also used my Browning A Bolt .338WM with no issues. Lucky I guess, but I do maintain my firearms.
     

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    Winchester 70. 375 H&H. Round detonated when safety pushed forward on loaded chamber
    Gunsmith stayed it was due to dirty bolt
    Gun was brand new, sent back to Winchester , no problem since
     

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    Rem 887:
    drops 1 shell (only when using 3 1/2 inch shells) when working the action out of the loading gate.

    Rem 742 and Rem 740:
    Both had "shoot out" worn rifling

    Marlin model 60:
    Multiple times---multiple rifles bent wire loading guide

    T/C Encore:
    x 2- broken latch pins

    Gun lock on Remington and Taurus firearms locking on recoil

    Taurus 22 magnum Pathfinder revolver:
    Spent brass stuck in all cylinder chambers:
    cylinder chambers needed polishing to allow spent brass to be ejected.

    Gunsmithing repair work I've done:

    Browning Auto 12: (not mine)
    Bent barrel (sent to another gunsmith for straightening)

    Multiple type magazines/clips---multiple type models---multiple brands:

    Weak magazine springs: feed failures

    Bent, broken, worn: firing pins

    Broken, cracked stocks

    Stuck cases in chamber: live and fired

    Rusted, stuck cap nipples on black powder firearms

    Rusted: cylinders, barrels, actions from: not cleaning; improperly cleaned; firearms left in out (barn) out building

    Cylinder stops: worn spring, worn cylinder lock

    Bullet stuck lodged: between cylinder and barrel-- locking the cylinder in place, in barrels----handguns and rifles

    Iron Sights: bent, missing, missing
    adjustment screw, elevation leaf, fiber optic

    Warped stock: wooden
     
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    Oh Sweet Jesus!! You really have had a bad run with firearms!!!......



    .....just remind me NOT to buy a gun from you!! :ROFLMAO:
     
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    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: The Marlin model 60, 22 LR, semi auto's I owned one and each of my 2 step brothers had one. I sold mine, but couldn't get my step brothers to sell theirs.

    The Remingtons 742 and 740 were going to be project guns, but a friend wanted them as they were: my friend sold them to fellows as pay back:):).

    As you can tell I stayed fairly busy gunsmithing.

    No worries about buying a firearm from me. I guarantee it will be safe to shoot, function properly, and accurate.:)

    Remington knew about the design and malfunction problem of the 887, but would never admit to it nor fix it.
     
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    1980, hunting a ridge about an hour out of Thunder Bay, Ontario. Nerves were a little on edge as a wolf pack had just eaten a native woman in the area. No one knows to this day if she was dead beforehand, but it was unusual behavior to say the least. Timber cruisers were refusing to go back In due to the aggressive behavior of this pack. I hunted til dark about 5 miles in. There was 8-12” of snow on the ground. Coming out in the dark I heard a wolf pack open up on the next ridge. It soon became obvious they were trailing me out. They got very close, closer than 100 yards. With snow and moonlight, I came very close to getting a bullet into one. With my attention on the wolves, I didn’t realize I’d walked into an exposed granite shelf covered in ice. I slipped, the butt of my Remington 788 hit the rock, and the rifle went off. The good news, it didn’t hit me and the wolves backed off. Testing the rifle later I was able to recreate the failure. Apparently the sear was a little too finely set.

    FYI, I know the wolf issue sounds odd. I believe that if you google
    It you can still find the stories. The ministry finally went in and took that pack out.
     
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    Ruger M77 Alaskan in .416 Ruger
    Wing Safety locked on safe. I had to put the rifle on the ground, put my foot on it and use both thumbs to break it free. That happened when I jumped a bear
    Click and no boom from a light strike. That happened later that same day when I located another bear and had a clear shot at 85 yards
    I sent the rifle back to Ruger. They replaced the magazine box, replaced the safety, replaced the firing pin and spring, and polished the rails and feed ramp. No problems since but the bolt will bind so I am going to do some polishing and lapping here sometime soon.
     

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