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I have not worked with 4831, but me thinks an 8 grain variance between start and max is quite a bit. Loaddata.com has the Barnes manual #3 and has IMR 4831 for the XFB 96gr to 101gr. The change in velocity is only 2602 - 2737. I guess the old x bullet built pressure much more dramatically. So 98.5gr seems to be well in the safety zone. I don't understand why they go as low as 90 grains. Maybe you can still get good groups at the low end and the velocity variance is not much to lose sleep over.

As long as the bullets comes out of the barrel, I'll give it a try.
 

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@BRICKBURN I bought one of the frankford bullet pullers and drilled out the inside to allow the rugby case to fit. I also made a spacer that fits between the housing and the cap to allow for the extra length.

It seems every tool I try and use with this caliber has to be adjusted or modified to work. Something to be said for popularity.

I may see if I can use a bullet holder from the press in the typical hammer style remover.
If not, I'll be on to you suggestion. Thanks.
 

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It looks to me that the 416 Rigby will do anything the 416 Dakota or the 416 Weatherby will do in a good modern bolt action rifle.
 

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The latest addition for accuracy.
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Nice Autumn day for some shooting.

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18C
1501 M Elevation
Slight cross breeze

6 Hornady 400 grain DGX used offhand at 25 yards to get the scope on paper. (sorta)

I used a Bipod from a prone position at 108 yards.
90.5 grain loads were used to get it closer to the X.
Finally, on to the paper at 108 yards. 10 inches high and 7 inches left.

91.5 grains. (The big holes) Three shots taken fairly quickly.
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Since my shoulder was not going to put up with plinking with a 416 for too much longer I decided to jump up a few rungs on the ladder.

95.5 grains.
I yanked the one shot up to the right. It appears the TTSX can be quite accurate in the 416 Rigby.
:A Banana:
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I'll finish shooting the other rounds on another excursion.

You can shoot this caliber from a prone position. I padded my shoulder with a folded scarf under my shirt.
This is not a plinking caliber.:W Gun:

I stopped at 16 rounds. (Various other smaller calibers were out for a spin to provide a break while the barrel cooled)

Safe to say, I found a load good enough to use for hunting. Still sticking with BARNES.
Tweaking and tinkering to follow.
 

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Yep, you're in the ballpark. 400gr and 2500fps gets your attention don't it?
 

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Yep, you're in the ballpark. 400gr and 2500fps gets your attention don't it?

350 grains at 2500 fps DEFINITELY gets your attention.
Shooting the 30 calibers afterward feels like you are shooting a pea shooter.

It sure makes me wonder about that 101 grain load! :A Crutches:
 

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350 grains at 2500 fps DEFINITELY gets your attention.
Shooting the 30 calibers afterward feels like you are shooting a pea shooter.

It sure makes me wonder about that 101 grain load! :A Crutches:

Your .375 will even feel a bit lighter after you've shot the .416 for awhile.
 

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Hey Wayne, get the RCBS Hand Priming Tool 9200. It uses standard RCBS shell holders. It will solve your priming issues. It will work when you decide to step up to a .470NE double someday....lol
 

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.........It will work when you decide to step up to a .470NE double someday....lol

Thanks for that info.

The last notion is about as likely as a Snowballs chance in hell!
I have my BIG GUN!
 

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Dr Robertson claims in The perfect shot that a 40 cal need not go faster than 2400 fps. The problem is that it is harder to recover, and make a decent shot, with anything more. So, no need to punish yourself.
 

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Those three shots in that target with the 2500fps shells were all taken in under forty seconds. (Just for my entertainment.)

I think some punishment comes with the territory when you head into .40 country.
There is no discernible difference in my experienced recoil between any cartridge dispatched that day.

With accuracy now established, I will shoot from the sticks and then recoil will be much better managed by standing.

I may also set up the ZIM PH test for some entertainment to see if I can manage this caliber under those conditions.
 
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Those three shots in that target with the 2500fps shells were all taken in under forty seconds. (Just for my entertainment.)

I think some punishment comes with the territory when you head into .40 country.
There is no discernible difference in my experienced recoil between any cartridge dispatched that day.

With accuracy now established, I will shoot from the sticks and then recoil will be much better managed by standing.

I may also set up the ZIM PH test for some entertainment to see if I can manage this caliber under those conditions.

You may be surprised once you start shooting off sticks and free hand how easy it becomes to manage the recoil of the 416.

The 350gr at about 2,100 would make for a great grouse round... :whistle::ROFLMAO:
 

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Good enough in my book. Now I want to read a report from you on using it on something big in Africa! Can't wait!:whistle:
 

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The 350gr at about 2,100 would make for a great grouse round... :whistle::ROFLMAO:

Great idea! And, you could do a penetration comparison with your 375 from before!
 

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All this gives me food for thought on loading my new .416 Rigby. Also was wondering if the action was going to be too long for the Leupold VXIII 1.5x5 and can see from the picture it fits just fine. Glad to see that. Now to get out and shoot it....
 

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