Life After The Indian Hunting Ban

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This is from the book: Mit dem Drilling durch Vorderasien (1967).
The authors write: That the Shikaris had rifles for bullets (on an other side an 7 mm Kaliber), they are good shoots, but then they hunt (or guide) tigers, they use their shootguns. Because they think they are more praktical - with the rough shoot - in the thick bush.
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This makes a lot of sense based on my own experiences as well. The rifles were likely made by Ishapore Arms Factory in .315 bore . This was built on a Lee Enfield type mechanism with a removable magazine holding five cartridges . Each cartridge had a blunt , soft head 244 grain weight bullet. You are European , and l think you will understand the cartridge better as an Indian version of the 8 millimeter by mannlicher cartridge .
 

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bull hunter, from the text in the book you supplied, it appears that the 9.3 used was a 9.3x64, a rifle that is the ballistic equal of the venerable 375 h&h. (a 286gr bullet at 2550-2600 fps) it would seem an appropriate rifle for a tiger as well
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I have written a new article here called " Rifles for Royal Bengal tigers " . Perhaps , you will enjoy it . It mentions the 9.3 millimeter mauser cartridge.
 

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You have so many great stories, I love reading stories like this. The way you write makes you feel like you’re right there.
 

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I have written a new article here called " Rifles for Royal Bengal tigers " . Perhaps , you will enjoy it . It mentions the 9.3 millimeter mauser cartridge.

mr Rahman,
the 9.3 mauser is i believe a 9.3x62mm. the 9.3x64mm is a more powerful cartridge (and the one i was referring to in the before mentioned article outlined in the article above.) the 9.3 x 62mm (mauser) is a fine cartridge but a less powerful one.

thanks for referring me to your other article tho
 

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mr Rahman,
the 9.3 mauser is i believe a 9.3x62mm. the 9.3x64mm is a more powerful cartridge (and the one i was referring to in the before mentioned article outlined in the article above.) the 9.3 x 62mm (mauser) is a fine cartridge but a less powerful one.

thanks for referring me to your other article tho
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Forgive me . I only remember the cartridge from my time as being called the 9.3 millimeter mauser cartridge which used to weigh 286 grains.
I understand now from my interactions on these forums that there were actually three 9.3 millimeter cartridges :
9.3 ×62
9.3x64
9.3x74
You are most likely correct. Most forum members here have speculated that the one brought by my clients was the 9.3x62
 

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the 9.3 mauser is i believe a 9.3x62mm. the 9.3x64mm is a more powerful cartridge (and the one i was referring to in the before mentioned article outlined in the article above.) the 9.3 x 62mm (mauser) is a fine cartridge but a less powerful one.

That is correct.
An then we speak in Germany about the 9,3, it is the 9,3 x 62.
The 9,3 x 64 - like in the book - is not in use very often.
 

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9.3x74r was created for tropical hunts. Around 1900. (At the time when Germany still had colonies in africa)
Longer lenght (volume) of casing was for the purpose of reducing pressure, and of course, for break action rifles.

At that time, powders were not as good as today, and pressure was an issue in hot climates.
Ballistically - it should be equivalent of 9.3x62 mauser.

9.3x64 was designed later in 1927, by designer Brenneke, having general idea to have maximum casing lenght for masuer 98 standard action. Practically very close or equivalent to 375 HH.

But by the time when designed, Germany already lost all her colonies, and I think that globally '64 never reached popularity of 9.3x62. ('62 designed in 1905, by her Bock, in the peak of German colonial era)
 

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...yes, that are parts of the mythos...

The main reasons for the 9,3 x 62 was - the today - Namibia and Tansania farmers.
German man, they need an "powerful cartiques" for /against antilopes, and lions.
(And in an emergency case, and with an hard bullet, against buffalo and even rhino - they had many in that days - / elephant.)
Not too expensive and - very important - easy to get in the normal lengh mauser 98.
(Not like the .357 HH, witch is "too long" and the action need normaly modifications.)

The 9,3 x 74 was desigend for the Drilling and Doppelbüchse.
It was - and still is - an "R" and: Randpatrone.

The 9,3 x 64 came decades later and was an the aquialent for the .357 HH.
Yes.
(But baned from many places in Africa, because the english governemnt want as an minimum of 9,5 mm for DG.)
 

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After few days, as the smoke clears on this subject, I will make small digression:

It seams that our little coalition on three continents and from several countries, had successfully shot down one more troll (and several PhD - holding "witnesses of great reputation").

Gentlemen, thank you for your service, it's a pleasure being here with you!
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This has been about the most interesting and fascinating discussion I have read on AH. Many different points of view, some heated debate, a wealth of hunting knowledge, and in the end we all came together as hunters with a common cause. From what I discerned, I think some of the differences of opinion stemmed from language barriers. Different parts of the world interpret words and phrases differently causing misunderstanding but through discussion and clarification everything worked out. That is the beauty of these forums.

I did a little research on the 30-06 round used by our armed forces.
In May of 1957 the US Armed Forces officially switched over to the 308 round and weapons. That was also the year that the M14 was discontinued and the M16 came on the scene. There were still some units in the Navy and in Vietnam who clung to the M1 Garand and M14 for awhile. They wanted nothing to do with that peashooting popgun (M16) that was getting soldiers killed. My last contact with the M1 was in 1964. We had them in my outfit when I was discharged. We had some M14s but I didn't have much to do with them. I carried a BAR. Ah, those were the days when you reached out and really touched someone.

When I went back in in 1975 I was issued an M60MG. Loved that rig. No popgun. We did have to qualify with one, though, as well as the MG.
 

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Thank you for sharing what it was like after the war and the ban.
 
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After a small interval , l have managed to clear some time on my schedule , to write another article for my dear respected fellow forum members. At the request of gentlemen such as Mark Hunter and Gesch , today l have decided to write an article about life after the Indian hunting ban. Let us commence , dear readers .

The Liberation War in Bangladesh , which culminated when the West Pakistani army declared armistice on December 16th of 1971 , had left a massive toll on the people of South East Asia .
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Victorious freedom fighters on 16th of December , 1971.

Any person who has served in the armed forces and seen combat , will know how ugly war is .There are situations where war is justified ( obviously ) , but l do not think that there is a soldier alive , who can ever doubt that war is ugly . Old men start it . Young men fight it . And every man , woman and child caught in between , suffers . Make no mistake . Would l fight in the war again , if l could go back in time ? Without a doubt . I am proud to be a soldier before l am proud to be a hunter . But there is no doubt that war is ugly , although necessary at times.
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Our Independence is signed

The worst people to suffer were the soldiers . It must be borne in mind that the freedom fighters of Bangladesh Mukti Bahini ( Freedom Force ) comprised mostly of ordinary young men , who prior to the war , were medical students , business students , art students , law students , banking people or , in my case , professional Shikaris . Infact , barring myself and a few others , there were many young men who had never touched a fire arm prior to the war . For them , having to fight in a nine month long war without rest had taken , not only a physical toll , but a psychological toll as well.

Even among those , like myself who were very experienced hunters , the experience was gruelling ( to put it lightly ) . Any one here , who has ever had to kill a person knows that pulling a trigger to kill an animal and pulling a trigger to kill a human person , is very different. When you are killing a human being , your are not only removing his existence , but you are also preventing him ( or her ) from becoming everything they could have become , had you not killed them.
I do not mean to illicit any sympathy for myself . There are people in life who have suffered much greater losses than l ever have . However , when seven people very dear to you lose their lives in a war ( most dying cruel and painful deaths ) , and you suffer a bullet wound , one can safely say that the experience was far from pleasant.
After the war , readjusting to life was not easy. My fiance , Antora was killed. Many of my friends ( including Mohiyuddin , whom l have written an article about here ) were all dead .
During this time one needs an outlet to escape . For me , what could be a greater outlet than hunting again ?


However , it was not to be . In January of 1972 , Indira Gandhi's renegade government passed the Wild Life Protection Act . It was a dastardly , loathsome act that banned hunting in any and all forms . This act was the brain child of the Hindu vegetarians who had begun to plague India and form a strong hold by this time. These people were filth and calling them irrational would not be just , to irrational people. I know that l will not be believed when l say this , but some of these people even drink cow urine , under the belief that it will give them a male child . Aside from hunting , the eating of beef had completely been banned and cattle slaughter ( even on private property ) was prohibited . Restaurants like Imperial Restora and Koshy's , which were renowned for their mutton chops and their steaks , suddenly had to adapt vegetarian menus .
Poaching increased to rancid levels suddenly. Royal Bengal tigers and leopards were poisoned in large numbers by using Folidol . Male , female and immature animals were shot indiscriminately by using using locally made match lock muzzle loaders. Country bombs were used to blow up entire lakes to harvest fish illegally. However , the news and media kept blaming licensed hunters for all this , even though we had been banned from hunting long before the poaching even started .


To make matters worse , meat eating itself started getting considered taboo . While , on paper , one could still eat chicken or mutton , you had mobs of people called Shakahari Shena ( animal police ) . These brigands were not police in the slightest sense , but merely a group of so - called intellectuals , who would go to butcher shops , beat up the employees and set chickens and sheep free from their cages . On more than a dozen incidents , the butcher or a shop worker was killed , yet the police took no action .
Western cinema and music were also banned . Even dancing was banned and juke boxes were destroyed and removed from cafes . Imported liquor was heavily restricted , as well. Infact , now that l think of it , there was not one thing which l enjoyed doing , that existed in India anymore. Home was home , but only in name .
The last straw was when the government declared that all imported fire arms in civilian possession must be confiscated . Indira Gandhi stripped the Maharajas and Royal families of their wealth and power . Dozens , if not hundreds of fine English fire arms from the colonial era were confiscated from the local Zamindaars and these were reduced to scrap metal . Hundreds , if not thousands of privately owned English fire arms were confiscated from citizens and destroyed , for " Public protection " .


Then , one day , they went too far. A group of these " intellectuals " broke into my family house where my aged father and mother were ( l was watching my father's shop at the time ) . They took everything we held dear . I had two skins from two Royal Bengal tigers , a skull of a Gaur with massive horns and two carpets made from the skin of Asian sloth bears. Also , was my father's prized I Hollis 12 bore side by side shot-gun with 65 millimeter cartridge chambers . They took everything . That shot-gun was reduced to scrap metal and those Puroshkaar ( trophies ) were taken ( and knowing the corruption of the Indian government , in all probability , sold to some amoral dealer ) . At this time , the few British people who were still living in India after the 1947 Independence , were having all of their property confiscated in the name of the " Indian people " .
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Father teaching me to shoot the I Hollis 12 bore side by side shot-gun when l was a child. This was the first time in my life when l had fired a fire arm.


This had gone too far. I knew that l had to leave India with my parents. I could not live there any longer. There was nothing left for me there. Not one thing. My mental state was already miserable after the war and being deprived of everything that brought peace to me , was too much to bear.
As l had fought in the Bangladesh Liberation War , l knew that l could live as a citizen there , with ease , especially since l had all my papers and documentation . Many of my surviving friends who had fought in the Bangladesh Liberation War had already moved there after India began to pass these Draconian laws . After a little discussion with my parents , it was decided .

My good friend , Captain Newaz ( whom l have dedicated an article to , here ) was the greatest person , to influence me . Not only did he manage to hide his John Dickson and Son 12 bore side by side shot-gun in the water tank of his house , when the police were searching his house , but he had also managed to bring the gun to Bangladesh and resume hunting . Slowly , we began to transfer all of our family property to Bangladesh and by 1979 , we were in Bangladesh to start a new life. We never liked being in the city and so purchased a beautiful house in the Sylhet tea gardens area and a new life awaited my parents and l ( my younger sister moved to the United States of America ) .
In Bangladesh , after the liberation war , the very first rifled bore fire arms being imported from 1972 onwards , were .22 Long Rifle calibre rifles ( bolt operation and auto loader ) , revolvers and pistols , and .32 bore revolvers and pistols. Ammunition for these fire arms were also available widely . Among smooth bore shot-guns , 12 bore shot-guns ( over - under , pump operation and auto loaders ) were imported .. 12 bore shot-gun cartridges were also being imported.

Seeing the scope to purchase imported arms for myself , for the first time , l immediately purchased a Belgian .22 Long Rifle calibre auto loading rifle and numerous boxes of cartridges .
I also became a founder member of Bangladesh Shooting Federation in 1979 and a part time instructor for youth shooters . I began to re -unite with many of my friends . At the same time , l made many new ones . And hunting was finally a possibility once more .
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Indoor air rifle shooting range for children at Bangladesh Shooting Federation


I do not think that l can ever describe the joy l felt , to be hunting again after seven long and painful years ( to say nothing of enjoying steaks and mutton chops again ) . Anti hunting people will always say that hunters only think about killing animals. This is not true , even in the slightest. We are the real lovers of nature , and we want to conserve nature genuinely , so that our future generations can enjoy it. We enjoy walking through the forest , getting lost in the scenery. We enjoy the thrill of the hunt in and of itself and not just the killing. That little .22 bore rifle helped lay low a good deal of animals for our table. The first animal l shot in Bangladesh were hares . Mother and father were most pleased to see Wild game on the family table once more. I then expanded my list of quarry , to include birds , such as wild pigeons and cranes which were not flying . The little .22 bore rifle was certainly more than capable enough of putting down hares , pigeons and cranes with shots to the head. It certainly was nothing as exciting like the old days , when l was pursuing Royal Bengal tigers , leopards and Gaurs on a weekly basis. But be be hunting again and eating game meat , was a blessing in and of itself and l thanked the Lord for putting me back in my natural element.
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.22 Long Rifle cartridges from the 1970s decade. This box , l have still not opened .

Sambhar deer and Chital deer were legally available for hunting annually , as were boars . However , to attempt to shoot these animals with a .22 bore rifle is utter folly , due to the unnecessary suffering that they would cause . Indeed , a friend of mine once took six bullets from a .22 bore rifle to kill a single Sambhar deer .
Crocodiles which were occasionally causing problems in villages and bears were occasionally getting into private land from Maulvibazaar and they could be shot . Indeed , many of my friends were shooting them with 12 bore shot-guns , loaded with rifled slug bullets . My recently deceased friend , Dr. Shahjahan Haque purchased a beautiful 12 bore side by side shot-gun made by the Belgian firm , August Francotte from foreign country in 1977 . This beautiful shot-gun had a quarter choke in one barrel and a half choke in the other barrel. It had 70 millimeter chambers and Shahjahan used it to good effect , loaded with German slug type bullets made by the firm , Brenekke. Not only did he shoot Sambhar deers and Chital deers with it , but he also shot five bears over the years near the Sylhet tea gardens which would come into his land from Maulvibazaar . Those 12 bore rifled slug bullets certainly stopped those bears .
My other friend , Major Jaber Sakir also owned a 12 bore side by side shot-gun , made in Belgium . It was built by the firm , Masquelier and had 70 millimeter chambers . The left barrel was a half choke and the right barrel was a quarter choke. Using German slug type bullets , he shot numerous Sambhar and Chital deer and also boars which would break into tea gardens and menace workers ( I am pleased to say that he is alive and healthy and continues his practices to this day ).
And then , there was Captain Newaz who was still shooting problem causing Chita Baagh panthers with his John Dickson and Son 12 bore side by side shot-gun , loaded with Eley Alphamax LG cartridges .
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Captain Newaz being praised by a Bengali news paper in 1984 . By this time , he had killed his 73rd Chita Baagh panther .

I decided , that l needed a shot-gun . Even though l knew how to operate all configurations , my preference lies with a double barrel shot-gun , as two chokes were always revered by me . I decided to get myself , an over under shot-gun . In 1990 , l had acquired my license for a shot-gun and paid a visit to Ahmed Hossain Arms ( the oldest arms shop in Bangladesh ) , where l saw many new over under shot-guns :
There was the Japanese Miroku , the Belgian Browning and the Italian Beretta . I was really taken by a beautiful 12 bore Beretta over-under , a model s686 Special with 70 millimeter chambers . The upper barrel was a full choke and the lower barrel was a half choke. It had to be mine . I purchased it and it became my companion for hunting all manners of birds and deer , crocodiles and bears ( and problem causing boars near the tea gardens ) . Loaded with an SG cartridge in the lower barrel , it helped me lay low numerous Sambhar deer and Chital deer over the years for the table . It also helped dispatch a bear or two and a crocodile . Never could l be happier . What an improvement from the old , inferior Ishapore Arms Factory 12 bore side by side shot-gun which l had been forced to use , during my career as a professional Shikari from 1962 to 1970
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The Beretta 12 bore over under which brought me great joy and continues to do so.
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Successful goose and crane hunt with friends in 1990 . I am wearing the black vest and half sleeve shirt and cap.





In 1995 , l killed my final man eating leopard , which was causing problem in the villagers near the Sundarban forests by using this beautiful over under and an SG cartridge upon orders from officials . At the age of 54 , l decided that this was my final leopard , as l was getting old and had taken to wearing spectacles at the time . This was a young man's game and l did not wish to keep doing this , until a leopard finally made a meal out of me .
( Fortunately , l have had successful cataract surgery done to both my eyes and now l do not need spectacles anymore , by the grace of God )


Around this time , my loneliness increased . Father passed away in 1984 and Mother , in 1990 . I was all alone again .


However , around this time , my sister and her husband had a daughter named Fabliha , and they started visiting me in Bangladesh once every three months . I raised her like my own daughter and took her shooting , fishing and hunting with me from a very early age . For her , l purchased a Brno bolt operation rifle in .22 Long Rifle calibre and she would use it to hunt hares and pigeons on her visits .
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Brno .22 Long Rifle bolt operation rifle owned by Fabliha , purchased by me when she was not of legal age to purchase fire arms.

When , she was 18 years of age , she killed her first deer with that rifle and a single bullet . It had gotten into the tea gardens and she managed to shoot it through the ear hole from the roof of our out house . I could never be more proud . That deer skin still adorns this proud uncle's sofa to this date .
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The deer killed by 18 year old Fabliha

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Chital deer shot by my niece's boyfriend , Daniel using a model 1897 shot-gun from Winchester , loaded with a Remington LG cartridge .



In 2015 , Bangladesh Shooting Federation authorized the import of magnum .22 bore rides and pistols and revolvers . The magnum .22 bore rifle which was ( and still is ) being imported was a bolt operation rifle , made by the Austrian Firm , ISSC and it had a magazine holding 10 cartridges . I immediately purchased one and l saw that l could use it to hunt Sambhar and Chital deer if my aim was correctly placed I their neck region .
Now currently , l alternate between using the Beretta 12 bore over under loaded with an SG cartridge and the magnum .22 bore ISSC bolt operation rifle , for my deer hunts.
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Very recently , l acquired a 12 bore side by side shot-gun made by the English firm , Westley Richards in 1929 , which l will use for pigeons and quails and hares with number 6 cartridges ( Game bore ) . It was available for sale from Columbia fire arms Company in Bangladesh .
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That is what my hunting life is , now .
No where near the grand Shikars of my youth , where l was guiding foreign clients after Royal Bengal tigers , leopards and Gaur . I now hunt two deers annually ( one of the Sambhar variety and one of the Chital variety ) , about a dozen cranes and two dozen ducks and geese in a year . This of course , does not include the pigeons , quails , hares and deer which can be hunted in private land , or the very occasional bear , or the problem causing boars which try menacing tea garden workers . You also cannot hunt in forested area without permission from the police DC overseeing the local area where you are going to hunt ( although , they are very considerate people and do not give hunters a difficult time )
However , l am content . Compared to what India has become , l am proud to say that Bangladesh has at least taken steps in the right direction . In 2023 , .3006 caliber rifles , 20 bore shot-guns and .45 Automatic Colt Pistol calibre pistols will also be imported into the country. For a third world country , which had it's Independence less than five decades ago , l would think we are doing alright. Also , given that most people here are either supportive or indifferent to hunting , if they are not hunting themselves , we also do not have to worry about media demonizing us .
Some times in life , you lose things which can never be recovered once lost. However , maybe you can find something else that brings happiness to you .
I would like to conclude this article by saying that this is my 20 - th and final article on these forums . Over the course of the last six weeks , my dear respected forum members have been most supportive and kind to me . I have provided accounts of hunting Royal Bengal tigers , leopards , Gaurs , Asian sloth bears , Boars and crocodiles and l am touched by the positive support that l have gotten from every one here.
If you are interested in reading more of my accounts , please purchase the upcoming book " A hobby called Hunting " written by the respected forum member , Hoss Santiago Delgado ( who is called Hoss Delgado , here ) . I have contributed to chapter six and seven of that book which deals with hunting in India from 1950 to 1970 and current shooting sports in Bangladesh . It contains 20 personally taken photographs of my Shikar experiences . I am of course , still going to be regularly contributing on these forums and if anyone ever wants me to write any article about any particular hunting topic here , based on my experiences , l will happily oblige.
I hope all my dear forum members have enjoyed the last 20 accounts given by this old man of days lost forever.
And remember , the owner of this site , Mr. Jerome is a most noble genlteman fighting to ensure that hunting and true conservation remain intact in Africa for future generations . Support the community . Do not let Africa ever fall like India . You will not know what it feels like , until it is taken from you. I know what it feels like from personal experience .
My dear friend Kawshik Rahman
Thank you for sharing your life with us. You have lived a very interesting and at times disappointing life with more highs than lows.
I am truly pleased you have found peace and belonging in Bangladesh.
Please do keep writing as we all enjoy your missives and insight into a long lost eara. If it was not for yourself and your friends we would be none the wiser to such exciting times. By starting the Bangladesh shooting federation I'm sure you have helped thousands of people to become hunter and lovers of fine rifles. It is an achievement you should be very proud of. You appear to be a very humble man that doesn't revel in his success and show great humility und compassion to your fellow human beings. You are truly a man among men my friend.
Keep safe and well my friend
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You have been my good friend from the very beginning and showed me nothing but support. I do want to write my own book too , but look at my accounts. It lists out a great deal of unethical things which l have done during those times :
Killing leopards with folidol , shooting animals repeatedly with SG cartridges to kill them , breaking into Buxa tiger reserve and participating in the killing of three Royal Bengal tigers in one day . That is just some of the unethical things l had to partake in , during that time. I am genuinely afraid that the anti hunting people may attempt to use my book to demonize hunters and paint is as evil. In such a case , would l not be causing harm to future generations of hunters ?
Regarding combat , l am grateful for your kind assessment. Every soldier in the world must be respected for the way they fight for their country. My heart goes out for all the brave men fighting ISIS now in the Middle East. I also feel very bad for the soldiers of the Vietnam War. I was reading a book last week about how they were demonized after returning to the United States of America , for merely carrying out their orders . Being a military background gentleman yourself , you could relate to me very quickly .
My dear friend Sgt Kawshik Rahman
The things we do in in the past are the past and I'm 100% certain no one on this site sees that you did anything wrong. The episode with that low life bastard Mr V or what ever his name was that black mailed you into hunting tigers illegally is the one who should be fearful.
What you have done in the past is to be a person who PROFESSIONALY hunted game in the utmost ethical manner. You always followed up wounded game even if it meant harm to your self.
My father fought in the Korean war as was spat on on his return. People told him it was a police action not a war. He also hunted buffalo and crocodiles for a living as well as cut sugar cane. He spent 30 years in the military before he retired. Yes he did some shonky things in the past but he had nothing to be ashamed of .
You shouldn't be ashamed of what you have done as some of the things were forced on you that you had no option about.
STAND TALL AND PROUD MY FRIEND YOU ARE SURELY A MAN AMONG MEN.
Keep safe and well my friend
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My dear friend Kawshik Rahman
Thank you for sharing your life with us. You have lived a very interesting and at times disappointing life with more highs than lows.
I am truly pleased you have found peace and belonging in Bangladesh.
Please do keep writing as we all enjoy your missives and insight into a long lost eara. If it was not for yourself and your friends we would be none the wiser to such exciting times. By starting the Bangladesh shooting federation I'm sure you have helped thousands of people to become hunter and lovers of fine rifles. It is an achievement you should be very proud of. You appear to be a very humble man that doesn't revel in his success and show great humility und compassion to your fellow human beings. You are truly a man among men my friend.
Keep safe and well my friend
Bob Nelson

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bob nelson...very well said, exactly what i was thinking
 
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Hey , Mr. Rahman ...
I recently had my BRNO ZH 301 get it's chambers beefed up to accept 3 inch shells :D
Why don't you do the same with your Beretta 12 gauge ? It will make it a manly gun ! :D
Hoss
Friend Rahman seems to quite well with his Beretta with out beefing it up. As the old say goes if it ain't broke why fix it, was yours broke ha ha ha ha ha.
Seriously Hoss how can we get hold of your book.
Cheers mate Bob
 
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But Mr. Rahman :( I was reading a Magazine the other day . The only people still using the 2 3/4 inch shell are guys too weak to handle a 3 inch Magnum shell ... And women ;)
Hoss
I got told once only bad shooters try bigger to make up for their inadequacy. Friend Rahman only needs to kill them not pluck, gut and skin and mince with one shot friend Rahman is still able to eat solid food to enjoy the taste he doesn't need it minced with magnums.
Ha ha ha ha
Cheers mate Bob
 
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Anyone who wishes can own a fire arm in India . One has to apply for a licence and after due verications can get his / her licence made

Neel in hindi means Blue. Gai means cow.
the hindi word for bull is bail / sand
There is no discrimination for issue of arms licences with respect to caste creed or sex .
Your claim that Indira Gandhi snatched your weapons away is false

My friendMr Vinod Rishi Indian Forest Services was former Director of Darjeeling Zoo. A devout vegetarian Hindu he had no issues getting beef into the zoo for the tigers and leopards kept there. I am talking about just a few years ago. Ivan not believe that you could not get beef in the 1970s when it is available today

The most well known registered Shikaris in India today are Nawab Safath Ali Khan ( Muslim ). Joy Hukil (Christian) and Lakhpat Singh Rawat (Hindu) .

You claim that Lakhpat is your friend and you are not even aware that he lives in Gairsain a small town in Uttarakhand and not in the state of Uttar Pradesh is too early in the morning right now . . I shall call up Lakhpat later in the day today and find out if he really knows you .
Mr Raghead/Raghav
Are you saying an Indian of the lowest caste is able to own a firearm. You said anyone can own a firearm in India. Theyre not even regarded as person in your country, so how can these humble people achieve this. I think you have been drinking to much cow urine to say anyone can own a firearm in india. You have no need to wash your hands in cow poop to clean them as your mouth is doing a good enough job of spreading bull sh@#.
I would much prefer to believe a man like Friend Rahman. A humble man with a good reputation as I have not known him to tell any thing but the truth.
You are a,vindictive piece of crap that has nothing better to do than defile your BETTERS.
A person like yourself should just be quiet and let people think you a fool instead of opening your mouth and verifying you are a fool.
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PSRaghav is/was a troll, a teenager identified as such, and insinuating false identity of known hunter. Not active on this forum any more.
Dont expect answer from him now.

The troll is down, crashed and burned!
 
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My dear friend Kawshik Rahman
Thank you for sharing your life with us. You have lived a very interesting and at times disappointing life with more highs than lows.
I am truly pleased you have found peace and belonging in Bangladesh.
Please do keep writing as we all enjoy your missives and insight into a long lost eara. If it was not for yourself and your friends we would be none the wiser to such exciting times. By starting the Bangladesh shooting federation I'm sure you have helped thousands of people to become hunter and lovers of fine rifles. It is an achievement you should be very proud of. You appear to be a very humble man that doesn't revel in his success and show great humility und compassion to your fellow human beings. You are truly a man among men my friend.
Keep safe and well my friend



That is absolutly correct.
You are an great man, Mister Kawshik Rahman.
Please "come back".
:)

Best wishes.
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