Going After Indian Bears With An American Client Braver Than A Lion

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  1. Kawshik Rahman

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    I believe Hoss Delgado is a better writer than l can ever aspire to be. He is also far more knowledgeable than l on modern fire arms made after 1972. Thank you for your appreciation.
     

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    Please continue these wonderful glimpses into that time. Your historical perspective is truly unique.
    Thanks.
     
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    Thank you for your appreciation. I will write more reminiscences as long as gentlemen here keep enjoying them and most gentlemen on this forum are as decent human beings as they are sportsmen.
     

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    This is a fascinating story. A previous comment compared these bears to our NA black bear. They appear to be about the same size. However, I have a fair bit of experience bear hunting, and I don't think that the black bear has been born that would charge under these circumstances. In fact, having messed with grizzlies as well, I would say that it would be a pretty slim chance that you would be charged by a remaining grizzly after having just dumped one of a pair. It seems that the bear that Mr. Rahman hunted were born with an attitude!

    The one caveat I would make to my comment would be to those of you hunting Prince William Sound, beware of the brownies on Hinchinbrook Island! These are a mean bunch of bruins! Local rumor is that it was the dumping ground for problem bears for years, resulting in a particularly mean strain. I don't know if this is true or not, but the attitude of these rascals is undeniable!
     

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    Thanks for posting these stories they do entertain and teach a bit of history
     
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    I have recently taken great interest in the American Grizzly species and and l always listen to bear hunting stories from my niece’s boyfriend, Daniel who hunts Grizzly bears in North America with his father and brings me photographs.
    Regarding these Indian bears , they have been known to be very aggressive, yes.
     
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    @Kawshik Rahman , I think you need to be a regular columnist to the forum. I need a couple of these a week. I agree with the other members here that you need to compile these into a book. We happily have an abundance of African literature, but too little from the great hunting in India that we can now only read about from the few men like you who participated. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
     
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    @Kawshik Rahman Your bear may also be the Asian Sloth Bear. It seems to be more widely distributed on the Indian subcontinent and is apparently quite aggressive. The markings of both are similar.
     
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    Thank you so much for taking the time to help me identify the Indian Bears .I have just looked at a picture of the Asian Sloth Bear. You are correct that it is an Asian Sloth Bear. These creatures on the Kudai hills were extremely aggressive and of the nine animals of this species which l have killed , l have been charged by three. However , l should consider myself lucky that it was not an American Grizzly species. Those seem really large and intimidating
     

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    You are an excellent writer. Nothing against Hoss, there are a number of us keen to read his book. However, you clearly have enough adventure to fill a book of your own. Please consider it.
     
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    I agree. I’m for sure gonna buy Hoss’s book, but would love to have by you also.
     
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    You are very kind in your words . I honestly did not expect that those reminiscences would be so enjoyed by modern hunters fifty years later.
     

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    Thank you so much for your kind words .
    I feel that by sharing these accounts , l am also keeping the memories of my dead friends alive .
     
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    WAB,
    generally i would agree with you, that the survivor of a pair of bears would run off, but... not always. in our bear hunting camp, we hunt coastal brown bears, the largest one i have seen taken (not by my client or me) in our camp was one 10 1/2 ft bear. in the last 5 years, there have been 2 occasions where a surviving sow bluff charged the hunters, and hung around while the bear was skinned causing the guides quite a bit of distress.

    also, it seems that as the evening comes on and it gets dark or nearly so, bears seem to become less fearful and more comfortable around people than they are in full daylight. i have seen this on multiple occasions.
     
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    Fair point Dirthawker. I once had a big brownie harass my son and I for the entire time it took me to skin and bone my son’s black bear. I gave my son, 13 or so at the time, my .375 and told him to grass that SOB if he so much as poked his head out of the alders. Normally a gunshot sends them packing in the other direction, but every once in a while...

    On the other hand, I have never seen that type of behavior with a black bear. Dump one of a pair as Mr. Rahman’s client did and the other is making tracks.
     
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