Everything I hate about plastic guns in one picture

[rookhawk]

You could borrow anything I have. I do enjoy hunting with and using my nice guns. Holding them just makes me smile, and using them even more so.
It’s just that while chasing rabbits out of a hedge thicket I’d rather not expose them to it.
FYI my beater guns are mostly ruined Winchester that have lost their collectors value and retain all their usefulness.

Just kidding with ya. Generally, people that borrow someone’s guns return them as rubble. A friend of mine had a brand new muzzleloader lent out where it was fired, not cleaned, and put away damp. It was returned a year later with a muzzle so pitted as to be unusable.

Friends, whadya gonna do?

 

[nztimb]

Just kidding with ya. Generally, people that borrow someone’s guns return them as rubble. A friend of mine had a brand new muzzleloader lent out where it was fired, not cleaned, and put away damp. It was returned a year later with a muzzle so pitted as to be unusable.

Friends, whadya gonna do

Or like my 7x57 with the skeleton butt plate and a few other nice touches that I lent to a friend who was over from Australia when we went for a hunt. Unseen by me at the time he used the rifle as a walking stick on some of the steep country and I had to re-set the butt plate about a 1/16 deeper to get rid of all the scaring and gouges the shale and stones had left in the exposed interior of the plate. He had been used to hunting his tika with the synthetic stock ( in 270 another synthetic) so I suppose I should have known better but as you say,

Friends, whadya gonna do

 

[mark-hunter]

It can be refreshing hunting with a gun in which you do not care about the appearance.

I know a guy, who was carrying his rifle, during all safari in some cotton, or similar wrap, in order not to scratch his new stock. To mi it looked like he puts a sock over a rifle.

On the other hand, I dont pamper my guns when carrying in the field.
Each scratch is memory and experience and it adds to personal value and memories

 

[Cervus elaphus]

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This pretty much sums up society for me and its political ramifications. It’s why I detest plastic guns and their aficionados as it has so many underpinnings that are both irrational and contemptible. Some of the straw man arguments:

1.) I don’t want to scratch up a good gun. (As they buy a plastic gun that costs more)
2.) I can’t afford a hand finished gun. (As they spend a fortune on disposable items, have no ability to save, and cannot manage impulse control in their daily spending)
3.) The new technology is better. (As they buy the cheapest possible mass produced designs and then festoon it with hundreds of dollars in nonsense accessories)
4.) I want something for the end of the world as we know it. (While they are dying of COPD and imagine defending themselves in an environment where they cannot provide power/food/safety on their own land but they own a tactical armada believing that gun is all their gonna need to be king of the dystopia)
5.) Hand made things are old-timey and only boomers and X-ers care about anything of any long-term worth. (as they squander their life leasing and renting everything possible, then buying disposable items in the remainder)
6.) By buying cheaper guns I have more money left over for hunting. (As they book cull hunts, helicopter hunts, and any other hunt that focuses on mass slaughter with no aesthetic or challenge as a focus)
7.) The plastic guns are all I need to get my own food. (As they process and throw away countless game a year because they can’t cook or won’t eat anything not sold at burger world)
8.) My gunsmith says they are better. (As they talk to a kid that makes guns from parts in the mail with zero hours training, completely dismissing the masters of their craft that spent a lifetime building things of beauty and function)
9.) I only buy plastic guns because wood guns are uppity and upper class. (While they buck social hierarchies in all areas of their life and never attain any form of meaningful work, nor attract a woman of any social status)
10.) I can upgrade my plastic guns anytime I want whereas the wood ones do not assemble like legos. (While trying to do the same thing to disastrous results in all areas of their life such as upgrading their Jeep until it no longer runs, their glock until it no longer fires reliably, and their country until every agency is a socialist mess that is too big to fail)
11.) Fancy guns take too long to locate and research whereas my FN SCAR and HK556 is available at the local gunshop. (While they fund such impulses by selling off grandma’s holocaust ring and pawning the ancestral silverware at the cash-into-gold place in the stripmall impulsively)


Some of the many attributes of the plastic gun movement for your political amusement this morning.

They like plastic because it goes with their plastic phone, plastic wallet, plastic cards, plastic watch, plastic & vinyl car, plastic pneumatic Priscilla wife. Plastic utensils from McD's are treasured keepsakes.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

IMHO, there should be balance, and every gun whether plastic or with a beautiful wood stock have a place in our life. I own several plastic rifles, shotguns, and pistols and they serve their purpose. I also own several rifles and shotguns with a beautiful wood stock, and they also serve their purpose.

Now, doing this to a lever rifle should be punishable by castration.

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@PARA45
I am the same mate I have a mixture of both plastic and wood. The wood on my lowall is exhibition grade walnut but my 35 has the plastic stock that came with the original rifle. Both fit me like a well worn pair of slippers. The both get used to hunt with. The only difference if the wood requires a bit Moe work to keep it looking good. Both have a couple of scratches but they are stories that go with the hunt.
I 100% agree those tacticool lever actions are an abomination to sensibility. John Wayne would be turning in his grave at the thought.
Black guns and plastics have a place in rifles and to each their own. As long as they serve a purpose and people enjoy them. Who am I to say they are wrong. Some are nice some are shit but you get that in timber and blued steel as well.
Bob

 

[Flewis]

I don’t know how to even reply to this thread. Which do you hate the most, us or our guns?

 

[Jäger_Ivo]

I have two friends. Both own a hunting and gun shop, come from a hunting family, both work as gamekeepers.
Both have a Blaser R8 with a plastic stock. Why? Because it is a working tool. Not everyone has the same needs and opinions. I also have almost all plastic, "working" guns for sport and hunt. We take the engravings and the walnut stocks for an afternoon driven hunt

 

[perttime]

I don't think that gun came from the factory with the plastic parts. I'm sure they are easy to remove.

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[Rickmt]

I am 67 and am in some serious trouble. No soul, no sense of style and doomed for eternity ! I Need a woody I guess. Would that do it ? Bring me back to where I need to be ? How bout a Blaser K95 with grade 8 walnut ?
But i did have a bear take a dump on my floating dock . I think he got out there and the dock got to shaking and he got scared . Shit happens!

 

[Rickmt]

 

[Tanks]

My PLASTIC gun, Blaser R8 with a Savannah stock worked pretty well last year for PG.

 

[mdwest]

meh...

while I certainly can appreciate the beauty of a finely stocked rifle with deep blue steel (and own a couple).. I also appreciate the practicality of kevlar, plastics, stainless, semi-autos, etc..

I hunt in the wet and the cold more often than I hunt in dry/warm climates.. and I hunt pigs and whitetail (from elevated blinds) more often than I hunt PG, DG, etc..

While the 300 H&H custom in the safe with its beautiful french walnut and gorgeous blued steel is a pleasure to hold, and wonderful to hunt with.. My 350 Legend and 458 SOCOM AR's are far better suited for the purpose of bacon busting, and my Remington 600 mohawk with its Bell and Carlson synthetic stock is probably the best tool I have ever owned for hunting TX whitetail at ranges of 50-150 yards from inside a stand.. When I finally do the bear hunt in Canada that I have on the short list of adventures in the wait, the Win 70 Stainless Classic with its plastic stock will be what makes the journey with me.. not the 300 H&H...

Every task has a preferred tool... while you can certainly drive a nail with a pipe wrench.. A hammer will typically get the job done better..

Some tasks call for beauty.. some call for brawn... Some are well served with innovative alternatives to the norm.. some are best suited for classic solutions..

 

[fourfive8]

Obviously, cheap and semi-disposable come to mind. But they can be most reliable and rugged. So obviously will have LE/military purpose. Beauty or aesthetics or pride of ownership or heirloom potential don’t fit well with the premise of polymer.

Of all the guns I have, only two could be considered “plastic”, with one of them a hybrid. They have their purpose and neither are for touchy-feely, warm pride of ownership. They are 100% utility in nature and are so on purpose and by design.
The two are: a Glock and an HS Precision stocked Win 70.

 

[rookhawk]

Obviously, cheap and semi-disposable come to mind. But they can be most reliable and rugged. So obviously will have LE/military purpose. Beauty or aesthetics or pride of ownership or heirloom potential don’t fit well with the premise of polymer.

Of all the guns I have, only two could be considered “plastic”, with one of them a hybrid. They have their purpose and neither are for touchy-feely, warm pride of ownership. They are 100% utility in nature and are so on purpose and by design.
The two are: a Glock and an HS Precision stocked Win 70.

You know my humorous initial post was really lamenting the underbelly of societal issues rather than the actual fact we use petro-chemicals to make firearms, right?

But the damning societal commentary is really about the beta-male. There are sadly a ton of people out there that cannot maintain anything. Plastic guns and Jiffy Lubes are symptoms of this. I'm looking at three guns right now behind my desk that are in for their annual maintenance. Each took about 5 minutes to have a bit of hand rubbed oil "topped off" to put them back into the condition they were last year at this time. No big deal and pretty hard to mess that job up, but people are paralyzed by service/maintenance/repair of about anything.

Plastic guns need a lot of maintenance too, people assume a stainless barrel means that everything in the action is stainless. (almost never true) They've actually been the guns I've handled that were most likely to be non-serviceable. (because the owner assumed they were maintenance free and now there are issues)

At any rate, we are entering a world where people are helpless and unskilled. We need more people that can gap a sparkplug or clean a gun properly.

 

[mdwest]

At any rate, we are entering a world where people are helpless and unskilled. We need more people that can gap a sparkplug or clean a gun properly.

Sadly a genuine characteristic of the majority of the members of the 2 most recent generations.. and amazingly (in a negative way) a characteristic of many Gen X'ers I know as well..

I am absolutely blown away by the number of people I know that are in their 50's and 60's that literally dont know how to do even the most basic home maintenance tasks, basic vehicle maintenance tasks, use basic hand tools correctly, etc..

Its one thing to make the conscious choice to have someone else change the oil in your car, or install a ceiling fan, because you've got the money to pay, and simply dont want to execute the task yourself.... but its quite another situation when a 50 year old HAS to pay someone else to change the oil in their truck/car because they have no clue how to actually do it..

 

[rookhawk]

Plastic gun scope installer:

 

[rookhawk]

 

[1dirthawker]

@PARA45
I am the same mate I have a mixture of both plastic and wood. The wood on my lowall is exhibition grade walnut but my 35 has the plastic stock that came with the original rifle. Both fit me like a well worn pair of slippers. The both get used to hunt with. The only difference if the wood requires a bit Moe work to keep it looking good. Both have a couple of scratches but they are stories that go with the hunt.
I 100% agree those tacticool lever actions are an abomination to sensibility. John Wayne would be turning in his grave at the thought.
Black guns and plastics have a place in rifles and to each their own. As long as they serve a purpose and people enjoy them. Who am I to say they are wrong. Some are nice some are shit but you get that in timber and blued steel as well.
Bob

well said

 

[F. Vaccaro]

I have two friends. Both own a hunting and gun shop, come from a hunting family, both work as gamekeepers.
Both have a Blaser R8 with a plastic stock. Why? Because it is a working tool. Not everyone has the same needs and opinions. I also have almost all plastic, "working" guns for sport and hunt. We take the engravings and the walnut stocks for an afternoon driven hunt

Indeed, a gun is just a tool, says Shane.

He says that while holding the finest revolver ever made, a Colt SAA that cost nearly a half year's wages in its date of production, holstered in a handmade leather holster with enough Sterling Conchos to pay off my first, second, and third cars in scrap weight.

But yes, its just a tool.

It was the finest till some bozo removed the front sight on Shane’s SA.

 

[Newboomer]

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OMG!!! Is that for real?? Besides ruining a good rifle it's a piss poor welding job. Makes me want to cry.