.416 Rigby from prone?

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  1. BRICKBURN

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    I have shot my scoped 416 from a prone position using a bipod.
    Three shots to check zero.
    It was not that bad. I'd do it again for the same purpose, but I would not suggest it for the more slightly built folks on the planet.
     

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    Its actually less likely to injure a lighter person than a heavier one, less resistance to the recoil.;)
     
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    .... as the wee folk go rolling backwards.
     
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    Hobbits maybe....:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     

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    So do I get on a treadmill or visit the fridge?
     

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    Neither, stay off the ground!;):rolleyes:
     

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    Correct.

    This is why I was advising in my previous post warning you of the scope hit in prone, to sit low at the bench (12" to 18" off the ground). It forces you to keep your back upright, hence able to roll back under recoil; it puts meat between the recoil pad and your collar bone; and it prevents you from crawling forward on the stock toward the scope.

    Actually, in the old days, the British gun makers had standing benches that they used to regulate the double rifles. That worked pretty well.

    As to portable shooting bench, I am personally really happy with the MTM "Predator Shooting Table." It is cetainly not as solid or steady as Bullthrower338,'s bench, but a heck of a lot more portable if you do not own the place where you shoot. Simple, inexpensive ($65) and about the right height when sitting on an ammo can. Just put a simple MTM or Caldwell front rest ($25) on top of it and Bob's your uncle :)

    I personally do nit use lead sled. I am concerned that they stress wood stocks too much, and - more importantly - they change the dynamics of the recoil so much on high recoil rifles that the zero your get on lead sled does not always reflect the zero you will get shooting from field positions when the rifle is already in rearward / upward motion before the bullet actually leaves the barrel...

    Just my $0.02...

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    +1
    Or the less experienced with large caliber / high recoil rifles.
     
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    Still how the English houses regulate their double rifles. Also how JJ Perodeau "bench rests" regulation and how Lance Hendershot develops loads for doubles.
     

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    Good set up
     
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    I shoot my .375H&H from prone quite often...but not any larger from prone thank you..
    I also shoot my .470 K-gun from a sitting bench with full loads, no problem when using a recoil absorber aka past or the like....personally I do not get beaten more while sitting than using a standing bench as long as I sit rather upright..
     

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    Seems to me that you are overthinking it a bit prone with a scope and full load of 400 grains might get you in all sorts. But since you will be shooting deer and over longer ranges in Scotland why not load a 300gr bullet and shoot it at around 2600fps which will give you almost the same recoil as 375 which is very manageable from prone. Double check you eye relief on that scope also.
     
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    Is there no misunderstanding?

    Hunting deers in Scotland with a rifle caliber 416 Rigby !!? Because it is strange in this country if one comes with a rifle caliber larger than .243 !:)
     

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    Lets say you do a low crawl up to a river bank to get a look at a crocodile and he comes out on the bank for some sun. You could back out, build a blind and set bait or take the good fortune that the bush has given you and shoot form the solid prone position that you are already in? I was carrying my .416 Remington when that situation arose but my choice was to shoot no matter how many days left on the hunt. I would not want to hunt with a rifle that I was not comfortable taking advantage of prone position if that was the best option available. Rare, but the need could arise. I figured out long ago that my recoil tolerance has reached it limits with the .416/.404's. I have no intention of taking either out for hot day of prairie dog shooting off the mat with a bipod.
     

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    We had a guy at The Zimbabwe Hunters test go prone on the gong. He fired one shot and then moved and shot seated :LOL:
    The look on his face said it all! If you have to shoot prone, try to get your body at angle to the rifle when looked at from above and try to arch your back so that you take the recoil on the front of the shoulder and not the collarbone/upper shoulder.

    If you are going to try, please ensure that you video the shot and post it here !
     

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    416 from prone ?

    I think there are better ways of punishing yourself.
     

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    I'll have to remember that next go round.
     

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    The only time I’ve used the prone position in Africa was for croc. I practiced for months prone ahead of that hunt just for that shot. Not sure what else it would be really needed for with a heavy caliber. Still, doesn’t hurt to be prepared and have it in your bag of skills. JMO
     

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    Well njc, the long and the short of this question will be obviated by the use of your 6.5 x 55 for your deer hunt. Once I got my 416 Rigby zeroed off the bench I went to using shooting sticks at the range. Much easier on my shoulder. I shudder at the thought of even trying to shoot it prone.
     
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    It really does pay to know how to shoot a firearm from as many positions as possible. You never know when you may need to take a slightly unusual shot. Prone is the most steady position available and is usually the easiest, just not in this case!
     
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    I presume you remove the bipod when hunting.

    I have had significant POA changes when doing this even when moving from prone to sticks to off hand. Bigger bores would change less.
     

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