375 H&H

[HookMeUpII]

Took my buf with a Barnes 350g TSX, 58.5g 4064 @ 2250fps. Win 70, 24"bbl. Head on shot at about 30 yds. It went clear through stem to stern and we never did find the slug. He went about 100 yds and we found him stone dead, not even a death bellow. Same load on eland and sable. Very effective. Perfect four petal mushroom. My one gun choice for anything that walks the earth.

I am beginning to understand the different viewpoints on 300g vs 350g. Robertson seems to like the 350g because he feels the 300g is just going too fast for proper expansion. He makes a couple compelling points based off what he has seen.

Others, like @375Fox feel the 300g is perfectly fine. I can understand that as well.

Funny you mention the TSX in 350g going clean through. I have family who just returned from RSA and shot Barnes TTSX for the second time. These were smaller 180g from 300WM on plains game. The concern this time, again, was that every shot was right through with minimal expansion. Good news is, the animals all died.

The fact the Barnes went through with 350g going 2250 fps is surprising. However, seems like it performed the way you wanted on the eland and sable.

 

[colorado]

I have loaded the Woodleigh 350g HD SPs in my 7 1/2 lb 375 Weatherby to 2550 fps. That would be my bullet of choice at 350 grains. I haven't killed anything with them yet, I used factory 375 H&H ammunition loaded with 300g A-Frames on my brown bear hunt.

 

[375Fox]

I am beginning to understand the different viewpoints on 300g vs 350g. Robertson seems to like the 350g because he feels the 300g is just going too fast for proper expansion. He makes a couple compelling points based off what he has seen.

Others, like @375Fox feel the 300g is perfectly fine. I can understand that as well.

Funny you mention the TSX in 350g going clean through. I have family who just returned from RSA and shot Barnes TTSX for the second time. These were smaller 180g from 300WM on plains game. The concern this time, again, was that every shot was right through with minimal expansion. Good news is, the animals all died.

The fact the Barnes went through with 350g going 2250 fps is surprising. However, seems like it performed the way you wanted on the eland and sable.

I’ve never recovered a 300 gr Swift A Frame that didn’t look like this. I’m not sure what more you would want for expansion and weight retention. A 375 H&H might be going too fast for Woodleigh construction but not for modern bullets like Swift A Frame, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw (I’ll assume Northfork SS since same design), TSX. Google cut outs of the bullet designs and you’ll get a better idea.

For comparison here are two more.

300 gr Trophy bonded bear claw. One at 75 yards and a finishing shot a full muzzle velocity on left.

300 gr Woodleigh protected point fragments from roan. Base of bullet did pass through. Velocity too fast for bullet construction.

 

[HookMeUpII]

I’ve never recovered a 300 gr Swift A Frame that didn’t look like this. I’m not sure what more you would want for expansion and weight retention. A 375 H&H might be going too fast for Woodleigh construction but not for modern bullets like Swift A Frame, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw (I’ll assume Northfork SS since same design), TSX. Google cut outs of the bullet designs and you’ll get a better idea.
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As much as Barnes has worked well for me so far, I might have to re-think it for buffalo. I've heard a lot of disappointing expansion stories with TSX.

I am definitely going to be looking very closely at the A-frames.

 

[375Fox]

As much as Barnes has worked well for me so far, I might have to re-think it for buffalo. I've heard a lot of disappointing expansion stories with TSX.

I am definitely going to be looking very closely at the A-frames.

I haven’t. Most PHs I’ve hunted with really like the 300 gr TSX, but all have said over penetration is a possibility. The swifts don’t exit so I like them better for buffalo.

 

[HookMeUpII]

I haven’t. Most PHs I’ve hunted with really like the 300 gr TSX, but all have said over penetration is a possibility. The swifts don’t exit so I like them better for buffalo.

I may dip my toe in on Swifts to see how they go, for the future.

Everything I shot with TTSX has died but it whistled right through. The closest thing I have for comparison is my kudu. It was a 300WM with 180g TTSX which is going pretty fast. However, it was a quartering away shot and it just roared right through it. Obviously not as big as a buff, but still a substantial sized animal.

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Everything died but we didn't recover a single bullet from anything I shot.

With my warthog, it whistled right through and obliterated a guinea fowl behind it.

 

[Hornedfrogbbq]

Chicken and pork sausage?

 

[HookMeUpII]

Chicken and pork sausage?

The tracker had chicken, at least lol. PH took responsibility but laughed it off in the end because it was his prop and the tracker was happy he got dinner out of it.

 

[375Fox]

I may dip my toe in on Swifts to see how they go, for the future.

Everything I shot with TTSX has died but it whistled right through. The closest thing I have for comparison is my kudu. It was a 300WM with 180g TTSX which is going pretty fast. However, it was a quartering away shot and it just roared right through it. Obviously not as big as a buff, but still a substantial sized animal.

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Everything died but we didn't recover a single bullet from anything I shot.

With my warthog, it whistled right through and obliterated a guinea fowl behind it.

Looks perfect to me. I like pass throughs. Only reason I don’t on buffalo is they are a herd animal and in thick brush not always easy to identify what’s behind your buffalo.

 

[HookMeUpII]

Looks perfect to me. I like pass throughs. Only reason I don’t on buffalo is they are a herd animal and in thick brush not always easy to identify what’s behind your buffalo

My thought process is along those lines. It seems the more I read, the more I see for buffalo, people like the A-frames.