21 days with Mark Sullivan

Yep, Harris was such a dud entertainer. What was her reality show that bombed? "The Apprentice?" Wait ... that was someone else. :D :D
And yet, he was able to trounce the “best female minority” that you guys could muster.

Really, Sullivan is a lot like Trump.
He has his detractors but somehow keeps on going and has a following of folks that recognize what he has done for the movement.
As I said on the other MS thread, he has done more for the DG hunting cause in the eyes of the general public than any other PH.
He’s part of the reason you all can talk about your Cape Buffalo hunt at the neighborhood BBQ and at least hold a captive audience among the regular folks.
 
I'm not really sure why I felt compelled to watch most of the video.

As for the hunter's shooting and Mark's killing, everyone has already said it. That would bother me, but not nearly so much as the PH's incessant proclamations, sermonizing, and endless twaddle about "this way" and "that way" and "oh, so beautiful." Put a sock in it.

After contemplation, I don't think I'd do a hunt with that PH if it was 100% free -- from airfare to finished taxidermy. My time is worth way too much to listen to that.
 
“I guarantee you 8 of of 10 PHs would have shot that leopard not knowing it was a female”. Really? :ROFLMAO:
Ah yes, mark Sullivan - One of the only PH’s in Tz that can properly sex cats.

Even I knew it was a female!
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This kind of commentary during a hunt is what makes him an asshat.

I was also surprised that they had baits hanging in the tree before they got there and they only hunted out of that tree for the leopard. Must have been a pretty bad area to only have one option for a leopard.
 
And yet, he was able to trounce the “best female minority” that you guys could muster.

Really, Sullivan is a lot like Trump.
He has his detractors but somehow keeps on going and has a following of folks that recognize what he has done for the movement.
As I said on the other MS thread, he has done more for the DG hunting cause in the eyes of the general public than any other PH.
He’s part of the reason you all can talk about your Cape Buffalo hunt at the neighborhood BBQ and at least hold a captive audience among the regular folks.
Wow! Mark Sullivan is advancing dangerous game hunting by producing tasteless videos about same? Right. So this is the way it's done? The consensus here seems to be the opposite.
 
And yet, he was able to trounce the “best female minority” that you guys could muster.

Really, Sullivan is a lot like Trump.
He has his detractors but somehow keeps on going and has a following of folks that recognize what he has done for the movement.
As I said on the other MS thread, he has done more for the DG hunting cause in the eyes of the general public than any other PH.
He’s part of the reason you all can talk about your Cape Buffalo hunt at the neighborhood BBQ and at least hold a captive audience among the regular folks.
I’m not sure about that.

Among my non-hunting friends 8 out of 10 have never heard of a Cape buffalo. Much is Mark Sullivan.
 
I’m not sure about that.

Among my non-hunting friends 8 out of 10 have never heard of a Cape buffalo. Much is Mark Sullivan.
You have non-hunting friends?

Why? :cool:

( Probably fish, I’m guessing)
 
I’m a brown bear guide on the Alaska Peninsula and am leaving for camp in two days. I usually only shoot at a bear if the client has hit it and the bear is headed into the alders. Nobody wants to track a wounded bear in thick alders. Brown bears react to being shot much like an African lion - spinning around, biting at the wound and then looking around for the animal or human that caused the injury. Some hunters get excited after the first shot and short-stroke or jam their rifle and I have to shoot. If the bear is in the open and the hunter is competent, I don’t shoot.

This year, I will be guiding two competent hunters who have hunted with me in the past for goat, deer and pronghorn. The first guy just told me that he wants me to shoot immediately after he shoots. I told him I will let him do the shooting and only shoot if needed. He disagreed and restated that he wants me to immediately shoot after he shoots. He said he doesn’t want to ever have to follow-up a wounded bear. I plan to discuss it with him some more once we are together. If the bear is in the open, I still don’t think I will shoot. Hopefully he anchors the bear and it’s a moot point. The second guy is fine with following my recommendation that I won’t shoot unless the bear is getting away and/or headed into the alders. Most hunters have a bit different view about such things.

As for MS and the hunter in the video, we don’t know what they agreed to beforehand. I’m guessing the hunter wanted MS to shoot if the animal was wounded and getting away or MS just did what MS does? MS wasn’t wasting any time, that’s for sure. Frankly, I’ve seen worse behavior from him on other videos.
@Scott CWO - my Guide in Alaska was the same as You, and before our Hunt I discussed “in detail” that I did Not want him to shoot my Bear unless it was wounded And getting away or a dangerous situation —- he told me that was His policy regardless. But, he also told me that some Clients are just the opposite and they WANT him to shoot their Bear immediately after they fire the 1st shot….which surprised Me that any Hunter actually “wants” help killing their trophy. The Guide also told me he’s sure he’s killed many a Clients Bear that they hit poorly and either could Not get off another shot, froze up, or kept missing. I guess Guides see some of the worst and most incompetent Hunters around.
 
This kind of commentary during a hunt is what makes him an asshat.

I was also surprised that they had baits hanging in the tree before they got there and they only hunted out of that tree for the leopard. Must have been a pretty bad area to only have one option for a leopard.
Yes, the leopard was so obviously a female it was ridiculous. Just trying to beat his chest and show off for his client.
 
I enjoyed the video. Was not that bad from my point of view. Is easy to talk behind the phone or computer and much more diferent to be there. Was a nice experience, every hunt and every hunter is unique so I would never talk bad about shooting skills or anything if the animal is dead on the ground.
Hunter had some great chances, he was looking for this kind of hunts, he knew what to expect.
Like a profesional in big game hunting and more than 25 years of experience in my country I would say some words about that:
I guided hundreds of clients and maybe less than 5% they have the instinct and ability to kill. I’m not talking about shooting skills, I’m not talking about killing from blind, shooting sticks, even from hands.
I’m talking about more than that: where to aim, when to shoot, when to double, how fast to reload, how to judge a scene without having the best position with your magazine already empty, how to hold your emotions … are much more factors to make you an expert. I don’t want to offend anyone.
That’s why in my opinion I will never speak bad about Sullivan hunts.
 
I enjoyed the video. Was not that bad from my point of view. Is easy to talk behind the phone or computer and much more diferent to be there. Was a nice experience, every hunt and every hunter is unique so I would never talk bad about shooting skills or anything if the animal is dead on the ground.
Hunter had some great chances, he was looking for this kind of hunts, he knew what to expect.
Like a profesional in big game hunting and more than 25 years of experience in my country I would say some words about that:
I guided hundreds of clients and maybe less than 5% they have the instinct and ability to kill. I’m not talking about shooting skills, I’m not talking about killing from blind, shooting sticks, even from hands.
I’m talking about more than that: where to aim, when to shoot, when to double, how fast to reload, how to judge a scene without having the best position with your magazine already empty, how to hold your emotions … are much more factors to make you an expert. I don’t want to offend anyone.
That’s why in my opinion I will never speak bad about Sullivan hunts.
Very thoughtful post, nicely said. (y)
 
I personally enjoyed the video but also noted some of the same things referenced above. In today’s age of anti’s I get mixed feelings between trying to avoid giving them more ammunition and just flatly not giving AF, because as a group, they seem to be the most hateful pack of rabid animals…at least every time a fellow hunter passes.

I think Sullivan could temper comments to prove more palatable to the masses, but like WWF actors, he’s made his name and livelihood with over-dramatic commentary on top of his shooting abilities…and the man can shoot.
 
The hunter clearly has a lot of excitement going on and think nerves got the better of him. I mean it might have felt like having your favorite NFL star shadow you for a couple live plays in an actual game, then yelling at you to throw when they see the window…it’s a bit of pressure. The guy seemed like he could shoot on paper at the beginning. Hitting low bulk off his bag, and the. A lower pair touching after shooting them in quick succession off-hand…so he didn’t seem incapable or unpracticed…but in the game, he seemed to struggle a bit, and natural for folks at times.

As a kid, I can recall getting buck fever and was just that almost overwhelming energy of excitement. I haven’t had that in years, and admit I miss it. Having just completed my first elephant hunt which is a boyhood dream, I wondered if I’d find it again and experience shakes, but no. Spent lots of time practicing shooting irons as I wanted red-dot off for the hunt, then lots of reloads from the belt and properly avoiding a bad habit I have with ejection to avoid brass hitting the concrete floors of the shooting house during the winter. Felt confident but never know what emotions and excitement will bring when placing the front bead on a target that towers above you. And getting in tight and close to several bulls in Zimbabwe and then Botswana that just weren’t there, helped gain some general sense of size and presence of the situation that would come when age and size met.

The day before shooting my bull we got in super close on an ancient old bull that had its ivory broken off on both sides, but as old and giant a bull as I’d ever seen even on YouTube, the concern was his ivory at the lip wasn’t super heavy so concern was if he had big nerve, might not be exportable and I’d lose out on the panels which I wanted more than anything, so after judging him for over 10min at under 15 yards from a few angles as he slowly, slowly meandered between feeding and what looked like sleeping (maybe pausing to hear/sense us) we passed, but I had to at least level my front bead on the frontal shot that we had when backing out, and no nerves (likely because I knew I wasn’t pulling trigger?)

Next day, and three bulls later, an we found the old bull I wanted that met what we were looking for. Same scenario, after getting in super tight for 10+ min, judging from a few angles and deciding he was the old man for me, we decided I should take him, and right as he decided to start moving on, so things went fast from there. The gents in Bots seemed to like heart/lung for first elephants and especially with a double. Seemed they have experienced a fair share of excited shooting and the western scenario to follows. They agreed to allow side brain and if the right opportunity a frontal as well. The situation here was a side brain, and while walking he was walking slowly and we were at close range. He was ever so slightly quartering away. Found aiming point, shouldered, squeezed and immediately collapse and trunk flying up in the air just as I’d seen on YouTube so many times. And while time stood still for me for a moment and really can’t recall hearing the shot, more just focused on the point of aim and watching the result unfold…I didn’t have any of the overwhelming excitement or feeling to rush. Not sure that is better…I mean the shot placements are better, but that child-like excitement is pretty darn cool as well.

As the bull collapsed, I remember being happy that it all went as planned but with all the videos you see on YouTube, just seemed to go as it should. BUT…both PHs, and all the little busman trackers and wildlife rangers were going absolutely nuts, and grabbing me and yelling and hooting and clicking like I’d hit some kind of home run to win the game. I’m sure some of its for show, but they were all just so loud and happy, I ultimately had to ask the younger PH from Tholo and he shared that the guys are all more ready for a rodeo when we roll in with a double, and especially so when it’s our first elephant vs some of the guys they see that come year after year for multiples each time.

I think at the end of the day, it’s about enjoying your hunt and all aspects of the trip. Recognizing having someone ordering when and how to shoot, the gallery of trackers and camera man can add additional pressure to shots, and just at some point do your best and just have fun. And one thing, having Sullivan back you up, I mean it’s not a bad time for poorly placed shots. Like him or not, the man can flat out handle and shoot a double.
 
Now I kinda want to do a hunt with Sullivan just to shoot with the man.
Just don’t hunt a leopard with him lol. He seemed to try his best to not get a cat. In an area that is chalked full of leopards like the selous.

I don’t think anyone doubts his shooting ability.
 
Just don’t hunt a leopard with him lol. He seemed to try his best to not get a cat. In an area that is chalked full of leopards like the selous.

I don’t think anyone doubts his shooting ability.
lol…admit I didn’t pay much attention to the leopard portion of the video. Haven’t gotten excited about cats yet. Was in Zimbabwe sharing camp with Matt Boyer this April when I took his 8th leopard with York, and got to put hands on that leopard right after, which I figured would light a fire in me for one, but surprisingly didn’t. Such a gorgeous animal and know I’ll want one at some point, just no real excitement or drive for one yet. Figure all the sheep hunting will lead to new knees and/or hips at some point, so if the good lord allows me 6th or 7th decades, some year when tracking hunts sound less fun, I’ll transition to cats.

But then there’s guys like Matt, who can’t seem to get as much excitement as hunting big cats. He and York have done 10 leopard hunts now and succeeded on 8. This one he shot an hour before dark on the first day the sat the blind. He’ll be back in October for another lion as well…a true cat fanatic if I ever met one.

If/when I ever get the leopard bug, Dalton & York would be my first contact without a doubt. All those guys are totally dialed in for cats.
 

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