Buyer Beware Of Whitworth Arms LLC/doublegunhq

Well now I'm tempted to send random inquiries to the guy just to set him off. In full disclosure, I can be a natural born Internet troll when I need to be, and this kind of situation is like catnip to me. :cool:
 
cash_tx said:
Well now I'm tempted to send random inquiries to the guy just to set him off. In full disclosure, I can be a natural born Internet troll when I need to be, and this kind of situation is like catnip to me. :cool:
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Afflicting the comfortable, or comforting the afflicted? Dealers choice?
 
LoganBravo4 said:
Seems to be a trend for this guy,

Emailed him about a GI listing for some extra pictures of a small ring Mauser action for a project rifle since the ones on the listing were blurry and didn’t show any close ups of the raceways or bolt face and he caught an attitude and said he doesn’t provide any additional pictures I can see it when I buy it lol

Won’t be buying anything from this dweeb.
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OUR GI LISTINGS STATE CLEARLY "PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR ADDITIONAL PICTURES" ... we have been in business for 30 years, we used to respond to these inquiries and in that time we have NEVER sold a gun to a buyer who requested "additional pictures". So we just don't have the time. We have learned that if a buyer can't make a decision based on a clear description, 5 photos, and a 3 day inspection, he is highly unlikely to step up.

So this "dweeb" says READ THE AD and don't get offended if we tell you what the ad states.

AD ON GI
 
For the record, my reply to this person's initial demand that I send him pictures of the internal lug raceways so he didn't have to "weld up pits" was verbatim "You have a 3 day inspection" .. no more no less.

And in this case I could see where this was going .,.. "I don't need the barrel and the stock, would you sell me only the action for $x?" where x is some lowball number. That is ratified by his post here where he clearly states he wanted to buy the action. He did not ask about the barrel, which struck me as odd.

When you have been in this business as long as I have, and dealt with thousands of inquiries, you develop a pretty good sense for which ones are going nowhere.
 
I’m glad your many years in this business have given you telepathy and you “could see where it was going” however, not only are you wrong you’re also ignorant. I never once thought about “low balling” you for just the action. I would have just tossed the barrel when I got it anyways as the price was fair as long as the action was in decent shape. I simply wanted better pictures as the ones you had posted in the ad were blurry and not detailed. But keep doing you buddy it doesnt matter to me lol I found a small ring action elsewhere and you lost a sale, oh well not the end of the world lol.
 
Brandon.Gleason said:
Ya, its unfortunate he's such an unpleasant human. He has a nice AHR custom in 270 Howell that I won't buy simply on principle after he was a dick to me via email inquiry.
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And he has had that rifle for YEARS.
 
Grumpy gumpy said:
This thread is like a train wreck, you don’t want to look, you can’t help it.
Mind you, I used to get fed up with time wasters and lowballers or those who wanted a total price breakdown, so I understand the frustration
Gumpy
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I sell stuff for a living and I'm sure you'll agree that that's just part of the deal. And you never really know - there's always a "time waster" who ends up being a great customer and someone who seems like they're going to be a great customer who is a timer waster. You never know, no matter what Mr. Gould of Whitworth Arms may say.

I learned that lesson early in my career when a guy walked in looking like he'd been dragged there behind his shitty pick up. I had had a long day and asked another guy to cover for me. Twenty minutes later the guy went out to his shitty pick up and brought in a plastic grocery back with $45,000 in it and drove off with a new piece of equipment. We were on 10% commission. That hurt.

Treating everybody with courtesy and respect will never come back to bite you. Treat people differently based on "what you know" from how they look or what they ask and you will always leave money on the table. It would be interesting to tally the unfulfilled transactions of Mr. Gould just on this thread. I'm in for $4,950 for the 404 Jeffery I didn't buy (still for sale).
 
TOBY458 said:
Today I enquired about a Kimber Caprivi in 458 Lott with a seller on Gunsinternational.com. They go by the name of doublegunhq with the company name Whitworth Arms LLC.
They have had this rifle listed for quite a long time in "As New Condition". And they are asking retail price for it.
So I simply asked them the question " is this rifle still in "as new condition" with no flaws? Perfectly like new? And this is the response I was given.
I can't imagine a busines owner responding to a question in this manner....
So if you see anything they are offering for sale, I'd be very leery to do business with them.

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Not the best response and I see your concern. I've actually purchased a few things from the company in the past. (Nothing in the last couple of years). Never had any problems. Wonder if things have changed.
 
Garciamarquez1918 said:
I sell stuff for a living and I'm sure you'll agree that that's just part of the deal. And you never really know - there's always a "time waster" who ends up being a great customer and someone who seems like they're going to be a great customer who is a timer waster. You never know, no matter what Mr. Gould of Whitworth Arms may say.

I learned that lesson early in my career when a guy walked in looking like he'd been dragged there behind his shitty pick up. I had had a long day and asked another guy to cover for me. Twenty minutes later the guy went out to his shitty pick up and brought in a plastic grocery back with $45,000 in it and drove off with a new piece of equipment. We were on 10% commission. That hurt.

Treating everybody with courtesy and respect will never come back to bite you. Treat people differently based on "what you know" from how they look or what they ask and you will always leave money on the table. It would be interesting to tally the unfulfilled transactions of Mr. Gould just on this thread. I'm in for $4,950 for the 404 Jeffery I didn't buy (still for sale).
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This goes double for the eccentric crowd on this forum!

Some of us are scruffy with poor social skills (me). But we happily drop tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars on guns and hunts on a regular basis.
 
Years ago I call the subject seller and asked if he had photos of a gun that were not so dark. A lot can be hidden in dark photos… The seller bruskly informed me there was nothing wrong with his photos. Since that call I’ve spent several hundred thousand dollars buying fine shotguns and rifles. I have however never again looked at his website or items for sale on Guns International. Never.

If you meet an axxhole in the morning, you met an axxhole. If you meet axxholes all day long then maybe you are the axxhole…
 
I emailed him once on a action that was posted to GI. I was berated because of the questions I asked that near identical to all the other replies here. Then, his last line was that the item was out of stock anyway and he needed to pull the listing.

Obviously he is content with his level of sales and accepts his attitude costs him more business. I have received better customer service from companies ranging from any LGS up to Rigby.

I do not consider purchasing his items posted for sale because of this interaction.
 
He gave me the exact rude responses as many here received. I now assume it’s his way of dumping junk on the uninitiated. Sure some of his items are most likely ok.

I’m guessing many of his items cannot survive probing questions from knowledgeable customers.

It’s easier to shoo them away and go back waiting in his spider web for the chump burger than deal with a three day return and the knowledgeable buyer.

Stay away. There are too many reputable sellers.
 
Mark A Ouellette said:
Years ago I call the subject seller and asked if he had photos of a gun that were not so dark. A lot can be hidden in dark photos… The seller bruskly informed me there was nothing wrong with his photos. Since that call I’ve spent several hundred thousand dollars buying fine shotguns and rifles. I have however never again looked at his website or items for sale on Guns International. Never.

If you meet an axxhole in the morning, you met an axxhole. If you meet axxholes all day long then maybe you are the axxhole…
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again, our GI ads state clearly "please do not ask for more pics" ... so again, don't be surprised when I decline to provide "more pics".
 
vh2q said:
Don't recall this interaction but the Wm Evans sold to
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Yes. I bought it despite you being a jackass. Just had some questions which you refused to answer.
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