Politics

Pheroze said:

I dunno guys. I have this recurring vision of @Big_Easy sitting in a swank restaurant; one that has a good following of locals wearing sneakers with no socks. He is laughing as he regales his friends with stories of getting on this hunting website - a real nest of right-wing gun nuts- and how he winds them up and throws facts like stink grandes in a NRA convention.

Continue at your pleasure.

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I must say, your intuition is usually better than most on here. Except for the whole no socks thing. I can't wear shoes without those.

Big_Easy said:

I must say, your intuition is usually better than most on here. Except for the whole no socks thing. I can't wear shoes without those.

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Agreed! And it’s hard to find good low profile socks that don’t slip under your feet - I hate that!

Brent in Az said:

The Philippines proposed a law to execute corrupt politicians by firing squad that steal public funds.

We could use that law here in the states.
The only one left in the Capitol building would be the janitors.

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Only if the same fate applies to these corporate executives who commit crimes as well.

Aaron N said:

I’m curious to hear first hand accounts of all this indoctrination taking place. Not your great aunts third cousins Facebook posts, but actual witnessed events. I know I have a very small sample size, two kids one school, but I don’t see it happening. I’m not saying it is, but I believe that 99% of what people regurgitate is made up.

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It's made up. They equate the 1:50,000 chance that their kid will encounter a trans woman in school automatically counts as "indoctrination." In my county there is one trans woman teacher...One. In the public schools. And you'd better believe that all eyes are upon that teacher to see exactly what is being said in the classroom. The school board even had to have a special meeting about it, the press knows, the local politicians know, everyone knows. You seriously think that teacher could get away with anything inappropriate? I wouldn't be surprised if some of those parents are sending their kinds to class with hidden cameras now.

Killingtime said:

One would not have assumed 20-30 years ago that Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth would have sizable factions of pro socialists, violent protest over trump,BLM, Palestine type of events

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I'm sorry but what? Colleges have been pretty liberal places since at least the 1960s. There have been many marches, protests, demonstrations about all sorts of issues over the years. Especially those causes that one would associate with the left. The Gaza War protests at Columbia are a perfect example of something that would have also taken place in the 60s.

Don't just blindly swallow the propaganda man, it was 200-300 students at that encampment with a school attendance of 37,000 students. Otherwise known as <1% of the student body population. Assuming that all of them were actually students at that institution, which they weren't. So actually <0.5% of the student body. I wonder what totally insane, bat-shit crazy conspiracy theories <0.5% of right wingers believe in? Oh wait, never mind, some of them are already on this forum.

Rafiki said:

Probably because being generous with someone else's money isn't being generous at all.

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Do you feel the same way when a Billionaire gets public tax dollars to build a stadium for his professional sports team?

Big_Easy said:

It's made up. They equate the 1:50,000 chance that their kid will encounter a trans woman in school automatically counts as "indoctrination." In my county there is one trans woman teacher...One. In the public schools. And you'd better believe that all eyes are upon that teacher to see exactly what is being said in the classroom. The school board even had to have a special meeting about it, the press knows, the local politicians know, everyone knows. You seriously think that teacher could get away with anything inappropriate? I wouldn't be surprised if some of those parents are sending their kinds to class with hidden cameras now.

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Once again you have no idea what you are talking about. Google Loudoun/Fairfax County VA, and where they literally covered up a trans person that raped a girl. Oh and they moved them to another school, where he sexually assaulted another student.

When the girls dad when to talk about it at a school board meeting he was arrested. And Biden's DOJ labeled him a terrorist. It took us voting a new DA to get the charges dropped.

Continuing the trend we have a girl filming boys in the boys lockerroom, and when the boys said it made the uncomfortable they were suspended.

How about in Fairfax where recently they let illegals that were under the age of 21 attend high-school, and one was arrested for groping girls.

How about they included LGBT awareness in the newsletter they sent to Kindergarten parents on the first week of school. Let me know if you want the screenshot.

I have had you on ignore for a while you planned your African trip yet? Hunting season is coming up, got any trail cam pics?

Tanks said:

She is at an exceptional (top 10) firm and they recruit aggressively. That being said, the firm did not get the US Steel representation and give it to her to finish.
She is a partner and as she puts it you eat what you kill. She got the merger deal for the company due to other work she had cultivated at US Steel.

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There is 100% value in an Ivy League Law School, especially given she, by all accounts, is the top of top. Being the top of the top is different, it requires a different mindset and different competition, you dont get there just by chance.

I would question the value of an undergraduate philosophy major at some of the Ivy League schools.

LivingTheDream said:

Once again you have no idea what you are talking about. Google Loudoun/Fairfax County VA, and where they literally covered up a trans person that raped a girl. Oh and they moved them to another school, where he sexually assaulted another student.

When the girls dad when to talk about it at a school board meeting he was arrested. And Biden's DOJ labeled him a terrorist. It took us voting a new DA to get the charges dropped.

Continuing the trend we have a girl filming boys in the boys lockerroom, and when the boys said it made the uncomfortable they were suspended.

How about in Fairfax where recently they let illegals that were under the age of 21 attend high-school, and one was arrested for groping girls.

How about they included LGBT awareness in the newsletter they sent to Kindergarten parents on the first week of school. Let me know if you want the screenshot.

I have had you on ignore for a while you planned your African trip yet? Hunting season is coming up, got any trail cam pics?

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Then why do some of you keep giving him a platform to bait you with his moronic arguments?
Don't respond, and he can argue alone with his mindless drivel.

Brent in Az said:

Then why do some of you keep giving him a platform to bait you with his moronic arguments?
Don't respond, and he can argue alone with his mindless drivel.

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After a while you get tired of the pigeon shitting on the chessboard.

LivingTheDream said:

After a while you get tired of the pigeon shitting on the chessboard.

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He's the type that enjoys farting in a crowded room.
Tells you all you need to know.

Big_Easy said:

I'm sorry but what? Colleges have been pretty liberal places since at least the 1960s. There have been many marches, protests, demonstrations about all sorts of issues over the years. Especially those causes that one would associate with the left. The Gaza War protests at Columbia are a perfect example of something that would have also taken place in the 60s.

Don't just blindly swallow the propaganda man, it was 200-300 students at that encampment with a school attendance of 37,000 students. Otherwise known as <1% of the student body population. Assuming that all of them were actually students at that institution, which they weren't. So actually <0.5% of the student body. I wonder what totally insane, bat-shit crazy conspiracy theories <0.5% of right wingers believe in? Oh wait, never mind, some of them are already on this forum.

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I know universities have pretty much always been liberal. I remember reading about Berkeley literally being a founding college for freedom of speech protests in the 60’s… however how should I categorize the same school 10 years ago actively advocating to not let speakers on the right come to the school or say they refuse security but would not refuse those on the left.. I believe what was liberal for most universities has gone several shades further to the left. You can probably say the same about the right except to me the right has gone more to the left as well. The right in the 80’s and 90’s was actively advocating to censor music and films. And neither party care about balancing a budget or limiting goverment since I’ve been alive that used to be a right talking point.

LivingTheDream said:

Once again you have no idea what you are talking about. Google Loudoun/Fairfax County VA, and where they literally covered up a trans person that raped a girl.

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Once again you guys can't even stay on topic for a single post. The OP was about indoctrination. Not a rape in a bathroom. How is someone being raped in a bathroom indoctrinating the rest of the kids? I noticed how you didn't cite a single source. So I googled it like you asked, and found no evidence of trans teachers being inappropriate with students in those counties. The only case that remotely fits your narrative is the bathroom rape in the sources below. You should also have mentioned that his teachers didn't know anything about him being trans as he had never come out as trans. He used he/him pronouns and referred to himself as a he. This also occurred prior to their transgender bathroom policy, which means that policy had nothing to do with it. Also the girl admitted that she went with him willingly to the bathroom for a make-out session, and at some point it turned non-consensual. This was nothing more than a teenage boy refusing to take no for an answer. Something that happens all too frequently in this country.

LivingTheDream said:

Oh and they moved them to another school, where he sexually assaulted another student.

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They didn't "move" him, he was removed from one school for misconduct with a girl. And his mother had him registered at a different school. This isn't some conspiracy, like the Catholic Church moving pedos around to different dioceses so they don't get caught. Or Trump paying off woman and little girls that he rapes.

LivingTheDream said:

When the girls dad when to talk about it at a school board meeting he was arrested.

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That's a different subject, one dealing with police misconduct and overreach. You'll get nothing but agreement with me on these subjects.

LivingTheDream said:

And Biden's DOJ labeled him a terrorist.

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I can find no evidence of this, please cite your sources.

LivingTheDream said:

How about in Fairfax where recently they let illegals that were under the age of 21 attend high-school, and one was arrested for groping girls.

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Interesting phrasing you have here. Here's a more honest one: An 18-year old senior, who was also illegally in the country, grouped girls at his high school, was arrested, convicted, and is now awaiting deportation after serving a light sentence. Once again, what does this have to do with trans people "indoctrinating" kids?

LivingTheDream said:

How about they included LGBT awareness in the newsletter they sent to Kindergarten parents on the first week of school.

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Was it a letter they sent to the whole school? Maybe one in which it says: If people are different than you please don't be an a$$hole and bully them? You know I'm hearing a lot of the same reasons they used to say gay people couldn't be around kids, are now being used to justify treating trans people as second class citizens.

LivingTheDream said:

Let me know if you want the screenshot.

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Sure, send us the screenshot.

Killingtime said:

how should I categorize the same school 10 years ago actively advocating to not let speakers on the right come to the school or say they refuse security but would not refuse those on the left..

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I don't think I've seen anything to suggest that the University is actively advocating to not have any right wing speakers on campus. It's as much of a security issue than it it free speech. You're putting a far-right provocateur commentator in the middle of a far left institution. And then folks are [insert shocked pikachu face] that the protestor's are getting rowdy. Let's reverse that, if Mayor Mamdani were to drop in on some deep red places in the rural south, I doubt he'd receive a warm reception. Folks would probably get pretty rowdy here too. What about some antifa protestors? Do you think they'd all make it out without any harm to them if they were up on a podium speaking around here?

Killingtime said:

I believe what was liberal for most universities has gone several shades further to the left. You can probably say the same about the right except to me the right has gone more to the left as well.

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Are we talking about free speech? Because I recall VP JD Vance telling people to get folks fired if they celebrated Charlie Kirk's death in any way. That doesn't sound like free speech to me. Weren't folks on the right complaining about "cancel culture"? Horribly ironic as Kirk was a free speech advocate.

Big_Easy said:

I don't think I've seen anything to suggest that the University is actively advocating to not have any right wing speakers on campus. It's as much of a security issue than it it free speech. You're putting a far-right provocateur commentator in the middle of a far left institution. And then folks are [insert shocked pikachu face] that the protestor's are getting rowdy. Let's reverse that, if Mayor Mamdani were to drop in on some deep red places in the rural south, I doubt he'd receive a warm reception. Folks would probably get pretty rowdy here too. What about some antifa protestors? Do you think they'd all make it out without any harm to them if they were up on a podium speaking around here?

Are we talking about free speech? Because I recall VP JD Vance telling people to get folks fired if they celebrated Charlie Kirk's death in any way. That doesn't sound like free speech to me. Weren't folks on the right complaining about "cancel culture"? Horribly ironic as Kirk was a free speech advocate.

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The 2017 protest/fights were definitely both sides but most violence I remember seeing back then was antifa or people like them spitting and macing people.. so I expect violence when you do that. As for them in the south they had groups like that in the south and I don’t recall people beating them down. However I also notice the left doesn’t seem to destroy stuff in smaller southern areas. Maybe they know people will not tolerate it.. I’m only guessing. A lot of the ridiculous stuff since 2016 has been in blue states or cities. If it’s on a university in a big city I expect it to be blue so that is not a shock to me. As for security issues I remember that being sited however a court case win on Berkeley seems to make what they were doing not ok. I’m honestly not well versed in law so I’ll leave the link.



As for free speech I’m fine with all speakers left, right, libertarian, communist doesn’t matter to me as long as the platform is open to all. I’ve read Adam smith, Marx, Hayek, Friedman, rothbard, Keynes. I’ve even read some Zola novels. Doesn’t bother me what people read or want to believe. I’m a libertarian that believes in the republic but struggles with the mob. Because all mobs turn to savages.

I just don't like any of it.....growing up on the US/CAN border, driving cross the border for dates was nothing..... No more.

This one’s for @spike.t :

skydiver386 said:

Arnold made his first million laying bricks, long before he appeared in any major Hollywood movies.

Contrast this with lazy Socialist bums like Karl Marx and Bernie Sanders who never worked a real job their entire lives.

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Check out comic Bill Burr's bit on Arnold and "gold digging whores".