Frontal shots on buffalo bulls

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Following on from the interesting post recently from @Kevin Peacocke I'd be interested in hearing from experienced buffalo hunters on their thoughts on frontal shots on cape buffalo bulls, especially with a .375 H&H (the calibre I shoot.) Would you:

A. Take them whenever they present with any calibre
B. Not take them with any calibre
C. Only take them with calibre i.e. .400 upwards
D. Only take them under a certain range

I've only shot one buffalo, it was broadside and it was a one shot kill having run a couple of hundred yards (I paid the insurance but it didn't react) and I'm hunting a bull again shortly in the Caprivi
 
It’s a shot without a lot of margin for error. I wouldn’t care if I’m using a 375 or 40+ I’d ask my PH to back up my shot if I won’t have opportunity to shoot again. My only frontal shot has been at very close range in thick brush with a 375.
 
I have only killed exactly one buffalo, last year in Zambia (bull in my avtar pic). I can't speak for the 375, but frontal shot at close range with 458 Lott proved very effective. My experience: Frontal shot in the chest at 25 steps. Bull dropped in his tracks and didn't make another move. Quickly cycled the bolt and shot him again on the exposed left side of the chest right under the horn as he laid on the ground motionless, then moved to the side for insurance between the shoulder blades. The shot center punched the heart and clearly hit the spine as well. My PH and I had the understanding before we ever started the hunt that he is to back me up at anytime at his discretion. No back up necessary in this case.
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I have only killed exactly one buffalo, last year in Zambia (bull in my avtar pic). I can't speak for the 375, but frontal shot at close range with 458 Lott proved very effective. My experience: Frontal shot in the chest at 25 steps. Bull dropped in his tracks and didn't make another move. Quickly cycled the bolt and shot him again on the exposed left side of the chest right under the horn as he laid on the ground motionless, then moved to the side for insurance through the shoulder blades. The shot center punched hit heart and clearly hit spine as well. My PH and i had the understanding before we ever started the hunt that he is to back me up at anytime at his discretion. No back up necessary in this case.
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Barnes TSX?
 
A quality bullet. And If within 30-50 yards. Solid rest and a scoped rifle. I would take a frontal shot without hesitation. I’ve shot animals with a bow in that spot and it’s devastating. Blood comes out like a garden hose.
 
It’s a shot without a lot of margin for error. I wouldn’t care if I’m using a 375 or 40+ I’d ask my PH to back up my shot if I won’t have opportunity to shoot again. My only frontal shot has been at very close range in thick brush with a 375.
I agree. The problem with that shot with any caliber is unless you hit the heart you will most likely only catch one lung then the problems start
 
Great question…. As you know I shot one in a straight frontal position with a .375 and 300g TSX. Its legs folded under it and we paid the insurance. I would do it again if I were steady enough within limited range …. So my answer is D
 
Given a buffalo's exceptional senses, it is not easy to get in a killing shot at a buffalo before it becomes aware of your presence. And when it does so, it will invariably turn to look at you with its nose uplifted. Because of this, it is my experience that the majority of shots at buffalo are from the frontal angles. A buffalo's frontal chest skin is almost an inch thick, loose and supple. This is its frontal chest armour, used when it crashes head first through thick bush with is head held high. His thick supple skin absorbs and dissipates energy - in the PH'ing world we call it the trampoline effect and it can seriously affect a bullet's terminal performance when the bullet is too light and too fast. What works best for overcoming the 'trampoline effect' is heavy for caliber, relatively low velocity bullets with lots of momentum.
I learned this lesson when still a learner Zim PH back in the early 1990's. Our client was very proud of his 'hot' .375 H&H reloads shooting 300 grn Nosler partitions at a measured 2600 fps. We ambushed a large herd of buffalo as they grazed slowly towards us. In the front was a nice herd bull which stopped 50 paces in front of us with head uplifted when my tutor PH tapped the magazine floorplace of his bolt actioned rifle with his gold wedding ring. The bull was directly front-on to our client who shot him sqyarely in the middle of his chest with the 300 grn Nosler Partition. I was directly behind our client, watching the bull through my binocular and I saw the puff of dust where the Partition inpacked - shot placement looked perfect. The bull dropped to the shot as it lightning struck but was instantly back on his feet and quickly lost in the dust and confusion of the milling and then stampeding herd before any backup shots could be fired. To cut a long story short, we never found that bull despite looking for it for the next three days and in the end concluded the shot was not fatele because it never entered the chest cavity. For me, this was a real learning curve and now more than 3 decades later and a three figure buffalo tally, this was the only buffalo I ever saw shot and lost.
At the time I owned a 9,3 x 62 mm, purchsed from an oldtimer who had been for his long bush career, the crop protection officer for Triangle Sugar Estates - where during the course of his duties he estimated he had shot 'at least' 600 buffalo with this rifle. He loved the 'Nine-Three' as he called it and said it was a lot more effective on buffalo than the .375 H&H. In those long ago days, the recomendation was 'only solids for buffalo' and he prefered the Nine Three because of its lower muzzle velocity with 286 grainers worked better on frontal shots and from side-on such bullets usually did not exit as a 300 grain .375 solid usually will.
As soon as I aqcuired this rifle I got Ken Stewart to make me about 500, of his bonded 300 grain .366 expanding Hi-Performers with a flat nose and a 2 mm steel jacket. (these bullets were very similar to Woodleigh Weldcores) At an honest 2300 fps they were wonderfully effective on buffalo, even with frontal chest shots, and when I finally sold this wonderful rifle it had in excess of 650 buffalo 'scalps' to its credit.
I tested many different bullet types in the .375 on buffalo and without a doubt, the most effect by far was the 380 grn Rhino. So large were the permanent wound channels these bullets created that I used to recover these bullets by just sticking my gorilla-length arm into the wound channel and pull the bullet out! The only problem with these bullets was their quality - every batch was different so I eventually gave up on them.
North Forks 350 grn SS and CNS are the next best and most effective .375 buffalo bullets at velocies in the region of 2350 fps and they work extremely well with placed perfectly. The 350 grn CNS will exit from side-on while a SS will not. On a direct frontal shot, the thorasic inlet is only the size of your hand - miss this opening into the chest cavity and it is possibe for the overlapping ribs to deflect the bullet. My experience is that this is less likely to happen when heavy for caliber bullets at a lower velocity are used.
 
I'VE SHOT 1 FRONTAL WITH A 375H&H AT 40YRD WHEN HE STOOD UP TO LOOK AROUND. HE SPUN QUICKLY AND I DIDNT GET A SECOND IN. WENT DOWN IN ANOTHER 40YRD AND GAVE THE BELLOW.
 
I’m no expert for sure. I have taken 4 Buff bulls. 1 broadside, other 3 have been frontals.
All using 458 Lott 500gr Aframes.
Broadside one went 25 yards and was done.
1st bull frontal from 45 yards. He took 3 more to stay down. Total distance maybe 50 yards from first shot. 2nd frontal bull. 1 and done from 15-20 yards, went 30-40 yards and death bellow came. 3rd bull was a rodeo!
Frontal quartering slightly. I was off about 2 inches, he was 35 yards. That bull when we tracked got up, didn’t charge but started running. Between me and 3 PHs. He took 9 more rounds before staying down.
Personally I would not do a frontal with less than a caliber with a 4 in it after my experiences.
 
Given a buffalo's exceptional senses, it is not easy to get in a killing shot at a buffalo before it becomes aware of your presence. And when it does so, it will invariably turn to look at you with its nose uplifted. Because of this, it is my experience that the majority of shots at buffalo are from the frontal angles. A buffalo's frontal chest skin is almost an inch thick, loose and supple. This is its frontal chest armour, used when it crashes head first through thick bush with is head held high. His thick supple skin absorbs and dissipates energy - in the PH'ing world we call it the trampoline effect and it can seriously affect a bullet's terminal performance when the bullet is too light and too fast. What works best for overcoming the 'trampoline effect' is heavy for caliber, relatively low velocity bullets with lots of momentum.
I learned this lesson when still a learner Zim PH back in the early 1990's. Our client was very proud of his 'hot' .375 H&H reloads shooting 300 grn Nosler partitions at a measured 2600 fps. We ambushed a large herd of buffalo as they grazed slowly towards us. In the front was a nice herd bull which stopped 50 paces in front of us with head uplifted when my tutor PH tapped the magazine floorplace of his bolt actioned rifle with his gold wedding ring. The bull was directly front-on to our client who shot him sqyarely in the middle of his chest with the 300 grn Nosler Partition. I was directly behind our client, watching the bull through my binocular and I saw the puff of dust where the Partition inpacked - shot placement looked perfect. The bull dropped to the shot as it lightning struck but was instantly back on his feet and quickly lost in the dust and confusion of the milling and then stampeding herd before any backup shots could be fired. To cut a long story short, we never found that bull despite looking for it for the next three days and in the end concluded the shot was not fatele because it never entered the chest cavity. For me, this was a real learning curve and now more than 3 decades later and a three figure buffalo tally, this was the only buffalo I ever saw shot and lost.
At the time I owned a 9,3 x 62 mm, purchsed from an oldtimer who had been for his long bush career, the crop protection officer for Triangle Sugar Estates - where during the course of his duties he estimated he had shot 'at least' 600 buffalo with this rifle. He loved the 'Nine-Three' as he called it and said it was a lot more effective on buffalo than the .375 H&H. In those long ago days, the recomendation was 'only solids for buffalo' and he prefered the Nine Three because of its lower muzzle velocity with 286 grainers worked better on frontal shots and from side-on such bullets usually did not exit as a 300 grain .375 solid usually will.
As soon as I aqcuired this rifle I got Ken Stewart to make me about 500, of his bonded 300 grain .366 expanding Hi-Performers with a flat nose and a 2 mm steel jacket. (these bullets were very similar to Woodleigh Weldcores) At an honest 2300 fps they were wonderfully effective on buffalo, even with frontal chest shots, and when I finally sold this wonderful rifle it had in excess of 650 buffalo 'scalps' to its credit.
I tested many different bullet types in the .375 on buffalo and without a doubt, the most effect by far was the 380 grn Rhino. So large were the permanent wound channels these bullets created that I used to recover these bullets by just sticking my gorilla-length arm into the wound channel and pull the bullet out! The only problem with these bullets was their quality - every batch was different so I eventually gave up on them.
North Forks 350 grn SS and CNS are the next best and most effective .375 buffalo bullets at velocies in the region of 2350 fps and they work extremely well with placed perfectly. The 350 grn CNS will exit from side-on while a SS will not. On a direct frontal shot, the thorasic inlet is only the size of your hand - miss this opening into the chest cavity and it is possibe for the overlapping ribs to deflect the bullet. My experience is that this is less likely to happen when heavy for caliber bullets at a lower velocity are used.
Many thanks for your reply, I really appreciate your wisdom and recall some of the instances from your excellent books Kevin
 
I’m no expert for sure. I have taken 4 Buff bulls. 1 broadside, other 3 have been frontals.
All using 458 Lott 500gr Aframes.
Broadside one went 25 yards and was done.
1st bull frontal from 45 yards. He took 3 more to stay down. Total distance maybe 50 yards from first shot. 2nd frontal bull. 1 and done from 15-20 yards, went 30-40 yards and death bellow came. 3rd bull was a rodeo!
Frontal quartering slightly. I was off about 2 inches, he was 35 yards. That bull when we tracked got up, didn’t charge but started running. Between me and 3 PHs. He took 9 more rounds before staying down.
Personally I would not do a frontal with less than a caliber with a 4 in it after my experiences.
I guess 3 out of 4 proves it’s a common presentation for an animal, obviously especially when it’s aware of the hunter. I’m stuck with the .375 for now but I do have Swift A-frames at least!
 
It’s one of my three favourite shots on buff.
The other two are slightly quartering away and fully broadside.
A good bullet is more important than the calibre.
 
I’ve shot several buffalo with a frontal shot from my .416 Hoffman and 400 grain Bearclaws at 2,400. They’ve all been very effective, even though I always fire extra shots at every opportunity.

I did lose one buffalo that wasn’t quartering as hard toward me as much as I thought, misjudged the angle and shot him too far forward. That was simply a misplaced shot, no failure other than my own. There was no opportunity for a follow-up shot before that bull disappeared into the long grass. As others have indicated, frontal shots are trickier and this time I failed to put the bullet in the right spot for the angle and we lost that buffalo.
 
Of my 4 buffalo only 1 was a frontal shot. It was with a 375.

It was also the 2nd shot (1st was broadside while bedded at sub 8yds). My shot was slightly quartering (he stood and was turning towards to charge) at under 8yds. I was using a scoped 375 shooting a Solid (always my #2 and #3 Bullets on Buffalo), and hit perfectly. It exited just in-front of the rear offside hip turning his charge and allowing me to get 2 more into him knocking him off his feet with the 4th shot at 50ish yards.
 
Given a buffalo's exceptional senses, it is not easy to get in a killing shot at a buffalo before it becomes aware of your presence. And when it does so, it will invariably turn to look at you with its nose uplifted. Because of this, it is my experience that the majority of shots at buffalo are from the frontal angles. A buffalo's frontal chest skin is almost an inch thick, loose and supple. This is its frontal chest armour, used when it crashes head first through thick bush with is head held high. His thick supple skin absorbs and dissipates energy - in the PH'ing world we call it the trampoline effect and it can seriously affect a bullet's terminal performance when the bullet is too light and too fast. What works best for overcoming the 'trampoline effect' is heavy for caliber, relatively low velocity bullets with lots of momentum.
I learned this lesson when still a learner Zim PH back in the early 1990's. Our client was very proud of his 'hot' .375 H&H reloads shooting 300 grn Nosler partitions at a measured 2600 fps. We ambushed a large herd of buffalo as they grazed slowly towards us. In the front was a nice herd bull which stopped 50 paces in front of us with head uplifted when my tutor PH tapped the magazine floorplace of his bolt actioned rifle with his gold wedding ring. The bull was directly front-on to our client who shot him sqyarely in the middle of his chest with the 300 grn Nosler Partition. I was directly behind our client, watching the bull through my binocular and I saw the puff of dust where the Partition inpacked - shot placement looked perfect. The bull dropped to the shot as it lightning struck but was instantly back on his feet and quickly lost in the dust and confusion of the milling and then stampeding herd before any backup shots could be fired. To cut a long story short, we never found that bull despite looking for it for the next three days and in the end concluded the shot was not fatele because it never entered the chest cavity. For me, this was a real learning curve and now more than 3 decades later and a three figure buffalo tally, this was the only buffalo I ever saw shot and lost.
At the time I owned a 9,3 x 62 mm, purchsed from an oldtimer who had been for his long bush career, the crop protection officer for Triangle Sugar Estates - where during the course of his duties he estimated he had shot 'at least' 600 buffalo with this rifle. He loved the 'Nine-Three' as he called it and said it was a lot more effective on buffalo than the .375 H&H. In those long ago days, the recomendation was 'only solids for buffalo' and he prefered the Nine Three because of its lower muzzle velocity with 286 grainers worked better on frontal shots and from side-on such bullets usually did not exit as a 300 grain .375 solid usually will.
As soon as I aqcuired this rifle I got Ken Stewart to make me about 500, of his bonded 300 grain .366 expanding Hi-Performers with a flat nose and a 2 mm steel jacket. (these bullets were very similar to Woodleigh Weldcores) At an honest 2300 fps they were wonderfully effective on buffalo, even with frontal chest shots, and when I finally sold this wonderful rifle it had in excess of 650 buffalo 'scalps' to its credit.
I tested many different bullet types in the .375 on buffalo and without a doubt, the most effect by far was the 380 grn Rhino. So large were the permanent wound channels these bullets created that I used to recover these bullets by just sticking my gorilla-length arm into the wound channel and pull the bullet out! The only problem with these bullets was their quality - every batch was different so I eventually gave up on them.
North Forks 350 grn SS and CNS are the next best and most effective .375 buffalo bullets at velocies in the region of 2350 fps and they work extremely well with placed perfectly. The 350 grn CNS will exit from side-on while a SS will not. On a direct frontal shot, the thorasic inlet is only the size of your hand - miss this opening into the chest cavity and it is possibe for the overlapping ribs to deflect the bullet. My experience is that this is less likely to happen when heavy for caliber bullets at a lower velocity are used.
Doc, you don't think that the lost Buffalo was due to the bullet's failure to penetrate deep enough? Obviously back then, we didn't have the incredible choices of bullets we have today. In all honesty and hypothetically, I would probably rather have a hunter shoot a solid, than a partition which should say a lot. Saw an accubond shed 33% weight on a Buffalo, and that was enough of a lesson for me.
Thank you for sharing your expertise here on the forum.
 
My one and only buffalo was taken with a frontal shot, a 400 gr Swift A-Frame from my 404J. It was getting late in the day and the bull was standing in an open area, looking straight at us. We were concealed in the bush and the wind was right. I was very comfortable on the sticks and we had waited about 15 minutes for the bull to turn. It was only 90-100 yards away. I took the shot and was slightly off to the left of center, which was a bit to the right side of the bull. His front legs buckled and he went down to his knees briefly before recovering. However, he did not run. He was hurting and might have eventually gone down. Other buffalo surrounded him in a protective circle. After a few minutes, they moved a bit, giving me an opening for a broadside shot. The second shot put him down for good.

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