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Scott CWO said:

Where are the groups surrounded and why hasn’t this been widely reported?

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Google Ukrainian Pokrovsk counter offensive.

Scott CWO said:

Where are the groups surrounded and why hasn’t this been widely reported?

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That's why I've watched Denys Davydov since the start of the war. He's always been accurate and usually way ahead of most westen media.

Brent in Az said:

Timothy McVeigh was pretty far right

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Yes.....will give you that one.

skydiver386 said:

That's why I've watched Denys Davydov since the start of the war. He's always been accurate and usually way ahead of most westen media.

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I used to watch Denys quite a bit but got too political on his channel. He presents great information though about the war in Ukraine.

Putin has violated NATO airspace 4 times this week, the latest being with MIGS for 12 minutes. I'm not sure if he is trying to cause confusion, testing our response or trying to bait NATO into a war.

Either way, I think the situation is becoming more dangerous by the week.

barryk said:

Yes.....will give you that one.

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Timothy McVeigh was not a group.

LivingTheDream said:

I used to watch Denys quite a bit but got too political on his channel. He presents great information though about the war in Ukraine.

Putin has violated NATO airspace 4 times this week, the latest being with MIGS for 12 minutes. I'm not sure if he is trying to cause confusion, testing our response or trying to bait NATO into a war.

Either way, I think the situation is becoming more dangerous by the week.

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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd lean towards testing the response.

He knows NATO isn't going to respond so aggressively that it'd risk escalation to a real Russia / NATO war (or force him to explicitly threaten a nuclear response to save face), so it's a relatively low risk strategy to assess readiness and resolve. Effectively, is NATO frightened that Russia will actually escalate to a nuclear exchange, and can NATO be bullied accordingly.

Combined with the ongoing (so far pretty weak) response by the current US administration, I suspect that the outcome of these little games will play into his willingness (or not) to come to the table over Ukraine and what demands he's willing to make in those discussions.

If NATO does shoot down some aircraft, step up patrols, signal their intent to respond definitively to future provocation, then clearly NATO isn't that worried about Russia, the nuclear threat isn't a winning hand, and chances are Putin doesn't have much leverage to pressure NATO nations. It might also give Putin a sense of how likely it is that NATO might increase their aid in that conflict to the level of direct military intervention if he doesn't negotiate.

On the other hand, if NATO's response to this sort of provocation is weak, then clearly the nuclear threat is a winning hand, Putin does have some leverage, and the calculus changes.

If it were in my control, I would be responding as detailed in option 1 above. Line in the sand, show some resolve, but still taking a purely defensive stance and not escalating beyond that. It shows Putin what the rules are, without backing him into a corner where he might have to escalate in turn to preserve his own authority.

Tbitty said:

Updated report indicates he was someone's personal security, nothing nefarious.

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He claimed that. He is charged with a felony impersonation of a police officer and a misdemeanor of having a firearm at a prohibited place.

I am beginning to wonder just a little if Trump may be becoming just as confused as Biden - only more intergenic.

For those suffering from Trump Adoration Syndrome, your assignment for tonight is to write a 500 page essay on the war between Cambodia and Armenia.

Red Leg said:

I am beginning to wonder just a little if Trump may be becoming just as confused as Biden - only more intergenic.

For those suffering from Trump Adoration Syndrome, your assignment for tonight is to write a 500 page essay on the war between Cambodia and Armenia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969608563526947202

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That would have been a war for the ages should it have escalated

Aaron N said:

How many of those nukes are functional? I bet the higher ups at the penta- sorry the Department of War have a pretty good estimate

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If the answer to your question was "just the ones pointed at Canada" how would you then feel about starting this supposedly short war with Russia?

I'd love to see Russia pull out of Ukraine today and limp their way home with their tails tucked between their legs. That if for no other reason that there's a lot of people dying for this man's ego. However, that would mark day one in Russia's recovery from this debacle.

The one upside, as much as I hate saying there's an upside, to the continuation of the war is that Russia continue to slowly kill its own military. Why give them a reason to justify their attack on Ukraine as a response to western aggression?

PHOENIX PHIL said:

If the answer to your question was "just the ones pointed at Canada" how would you then feel about starting this supposedly short war with Russia?

I'd love to see Russia pull out of Ukraine today and limp their way home with their tails tucked between their legs. That if for no other reason that there's a lot of people dying for this man's ego. However, that would mark day one in Russia's recovery from this debacle.

The one upside, as much as I hate saying there's an upside, to the continuation of the war is that Russia continue to slowly kill its own military. Why give them a reason to justify their attack on Ukraine as a response to western aggression?

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Surprisingly, I’m still A-OK with it. Self sacrifice for the greater good

Red Leg said:

I am beginning to wonder just a little if Trump may be becoming just as confused as Biden - only more intergenic.

For those suffering from Trump Adoration Syndrome, your assignment for tonight is to write a 500 page essay on the war between Cambodia and Armenia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969608563526947202

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Aaron N said:

Surprisingly, I’m still A-OK with it. Self sacrifice for the greater good

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You didn't answer my second question.

PHOENIX PHIL said:

You didn't answer my second question.

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Sorry sir, maybe the west need to be seen as aggressive to keep bad actors in check.

Aaron N said:

Sorry sir, maybe the west need to be seen as aggressive to keep bad actors in check.

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Sorry, but I'm not going support giving an excuse to Putin to launch nuclear attack on the west which would bring about an obligatory nuclear response from NATO. There are no winners in that scenario.

I'll choose letting Putin continue to bleed his military dry as he is already doing albeit still at a great cost to many innocents. The lesser of two evils in my opinion.

PHOENIX PHIL said:

Sorry, but I'm not going support giving an excuse to Putin to launch nuclear attack on the west which would bring about an obligatory nuclear response from NATO. There are no winners in that scenario.

I'll choose letting Putin continue to bleed his military dry as he is already doing albeit still at a great cost to many innocents. The lesser of two evils in my opinion.

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At another nations expense.

Aaron N said:

Sorry sir, maybe the west need to be seen as aggressive to keep bad actors in check.

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Enlighten us as to what Canada is contributing in the form of western aggression? Or is it the opinion of the rest of world that the U.S is solely responsible for bringing an end to the war?

Brent in Az said:

Enlighten us as to what Canada is contributing in the form of western aggression? Or is it the opinion of the rest of world that the U.S is solely responsible for bringing an end to the war?

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It is a fair question

The rest of NATO has done very little heavy lifting

We are all going to have to step up shortly

Brent in Az said:

Enlighten us as to what Canada is contributing in the form of western aggression? Or is it the opinion of the rest of world that the U.S is solely responsible for bringing an end to the war?

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I’ll agree with you there, but if you’re the best player on the team, you’re expected to play the most minutes. It’s genuinely an American created problem, and whose economy has benefited most from a stable world post WW2?

Also, who was in Afghanistan with the Americans fighting a war that had ZERO national interest to their countries?

Aaron N said:

At another nations expense.

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Yes. But not on our nation's expense, except monetarily which is a decimal point as a percent of our yearly defense budget. Welcome to geopolitik.

Not to mention, Russia started this.