Peregrine VRG3 Bushmaster - RSA Manufactured Bullet

[matt85]

id REALLY like some more .505" 600gr VRG2 and VRG3 bullets and some .338" 200gr VRG4 and VRG5.

-matt

 

[Mike70560]

Has anyone done a comparison between these and CEB or NF solids?

Michael McCourry tested some of these bullets. The results of the softs were very impressive. the solids were ok. Keep in mind this was in his "lab". He did not go shoot 30 or 40 buffalo with them like he did with North Nork and CEBs. He has a personal not for profit site you can contact him for more information. Just Google B&M Rifles and he has a contact tab on the home page.

 

[matt85]

i happily volunteer to go shoot a bunch of elephant and hippo with the solids to test their performance. someone just needs to sponsor the hunt and by "sponsor" i mean pay for it.

-matt

 

[Bernard de Lange]

I am happy to report some new bullet recoveries.

My recent hunt with Jimmy took us to the Limpopo province of South Africa where we hunted Zebra, Blue Wildebeest and Buffalo.

Jimmy opted to use my rifle a Remington Model 700 in calibre 375 H&H with 300gr Peregrine VRG3 Handloads leaving the barrel at 2600fps.

First in the lineup was a Zebra, we could unfortunately not recover the bullet as it passed straight through on a broad side shot at 50 yards.

Second in the lineup was the Buffalo Bull. He was slightly quartering towards us on a 80 yard shot, the bullet entered the right shoulder and was recovered under the skin on the left ribcage passing through shoulder bone and opposite rib in a straight line penetration. The bullet broke the right front leg that enabled an immediate second follow up shot. The follow up bullet entered right stomach and was recovered in the left shoulder tissue also with a straight line penetration.



The first Bullet had a weight of 283.1 gr after recovery and perfect expansion with no visible problems, a 94,3% weight retention.





The second bullet weighed 283.3 gr after recovery with perfect form and great expansion, a 94,4% weight retention.





Last in line was the Blue Wildebeest. This was a heavy quartering towards almost frontal shot. The bullet went through the right shoulder bone and was recovered under the skin on the opposite side just in front of the hind quarter. Perfect straight line penetration.



The recovered bullet weighed 283.4 gr – 94,5% weight retention with perfect form and expansion

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Very good bullet.
Witold

 

[Ryan]

Well it looks like I should have searched a bit deeper to answer my post on these bullets today.
Would be curious to see results on light to meduum caliber. 7mm and 30 caliber.

 

[Roan]

Has any one tried these bullets in a double?

Want to shoot them in my 470 but I am not sure if they will work in a double.

Cheers,

 

[Desperatezulu]

They should do because the bullet design is such that the 'driving bands' are the only part of the bullets that engage with the rifling. I.e. pressures should be lower than a conventional bullet where the whole shank engraves on the rifling.

 

[Roan]

True my concern is "hardness" of mono bullets compared to normal softs that have some give going down the barrel.

or am I just being paranoid?

 

[Desperatezulu]

Nothing wrong with healthy caution! The point with the driving bands is that they provide 'give' when the bullet engages the lands. Much less pressure than with a conventional mono, such as the original Barnes X.

 

[Kenneth McMillan]

Would these bullets work on thin skinned dangerous game such as lion and leopard or would the swift a frame be better

 

[Roan]

I would rather go for a swift.

Proven track record.

Imo wouldn't use mono bullets on Lion and Leopard.

Lucky for you there are many guys on there that have a lot of experience with Lion and Leopard they should be able to give you better info than I can.

 

[petrusg]

Well it looks like I should have searched a bit deeper to answer my post on these bullets today.
Would be curious to see results on light to meduum caliber. 7mm and 30 caliber.

Ive been loading them on my 30-06 and have had great results on plainsgame, haven't recovered a bullet yet, they seem to pass through everything up to a Kudu bull but the wound channel seems really good and the bullet has straight line penetration. I am shooting the 165gr and they group extremely well all bullet holes cutting at 100m.

 

[petrusg]

Has any one tried these bullets in a double?

Want to shoot them in my 470 but I am not sure if they will work in a double.

Cheers,

I shoot the VRG - 2 and VRG -3 from my .450 N.E double and they work extremely well. It took some time to get the correct charge for regulation but now they group about 1" so I'm pretty happy

This shot was taken on a charging buffalo cow at 15 meters

 

[siml]

@Kenneth McMillan , I would agree with @Roan , go for a proven swift.

 

[petrusg]

Would these bullets work on thin skinned dangerous game such as lion and leopard or would the swift a frame be better

They will work perfectly on thin skinned animals, i have not recovered one bullet that didn't mushroom perfectly.

 

[Kristof Aucamp]

Has any one tried these bullets in a double?

Want to shoot them in my 470 but I am not sure if they will work in a double.

Cheers,

Hi Roan
If you would allow me to quickly say a couple of word.

The bullets are perfect for a double because of lower chamber pressure, softer materials and bullet design. We are busy with both Heym rifles and Merkel in getting our bullets "certified". Mark from Heym has loaded a couple in the Heym lab on a 500 NE and 375 Flanged. The bullets pasted the first couple of test stages with flying colours.

We are working on getting them "certified" seeing that there is a couple of gents that has order Heym's that wants the riles to be regulated with the Peregrine Bullets in the factory.


Keeping in mind that our bullets are being manufactured with very strict tolerances and each and every bullet is being measured by hand to fall in spec. They are all in +-0.005mm and all bullets are manufactured on +-0.005mm from SAAMI groove diameter that gives you an interference fit and not a press fit on the barrel.

Would these bullets work on thin skinned dangerous game such as lion and leopard or would the swift a frame be better

Hi Kenneth,
Going after a lion on foot will always be nerf racking, not even to mention a wounded one. Wilhelm Marx from TGT is a good friend of mine and he had the same question, after a long conversation we decided that he should go and do some "easier" field tests by shooting an Impala with his 500 NE. I would say an Impala can be considered as a soft skin animal.
This is a typical Entry wound on what you can expect from a BushMaster.

Here are the results from the test.

 

[siml]

@Kristof Aucamp , what was the internal damage and the exit?

 

[Kristof Aucamp]

@TMS Unfortunately I do not have any other pictures at this stage, I will only be able to get some after they finish up in TAN.

If it's any conciliation, He only carries the BushMasters even on Buffalo back up. I will post the story about the Buff charge in another thread.

 

[Roan]

Thanks for the replay.

What load would you suggest in 470ne for it to regulate?

Regards,