Politics

[BSO Dave]

Im reasonably certain decisions about who has been selected for senior leadership positions has far more often than not been about something other than their proven ability or prior record of success...

I'm going to disagree a little bit with you on CJP as press secretary...

I think she does a remarkable job! Think of how difficult it truly must be to spin complete and total bullshit for a senile old man 24/7/365... How she can do this consistently day in and day out with a straight face is quite impressive.

 

[cash_tx]

For Peters potentiality to be plausible, you have to assume a certain level of competency and capability within the current administration...

I submit:

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Im not sure the Biden Administration is going to go down in history as one that was selected for high caliber personnel capable of long range strategic thought or planning...

Im reasonably certain decisions about who has been selected for senior leadership positions has far more often than not been about something other than their proven ability or prior record of success...

I can't remember the exact wording, but a phrase comes to mind that goes something like:

"Never mistake for malice that which can be attributed to stupidity."

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

Trump's chances will improve even further if any of the following happen:
1. Prices continue to go up in the supermarket. Likely.
2. There is a terrorist attack of some sort in the USA. The agencies have all given warnings, so likely.
3. There is a flare up in the Middle East.
4. Biden's cognitive ability takes an even more dramatic and visible dive. Likely.

Trump just has to keep his mouth shut, or talk in measures sensibilities if not. He still sprouts forth, but far more controlled than before. I am not seeing anything that can stop him.

 

[mdwest]

I can't remember the exact wording, but a phrase comes to mind that goes something like:

"Never mistake for malice that which can be attributed to stupidity."

Hanlons Razor..

Funny... I cite Hanlons at least once every couple of weeks when talking to my team...

and we work with the US Govt daily... lol...

 

[cash_tx]

Trump's chances will improve even further if any of the following happen:
1. Prices continue to go up in the supermarket. Likely.
2. There is a terrorist attack of some sort in the USA. The agencies have all given warnings, so likely.
3. There is a flare up in the Middle East.
4. Biden's cognitive ability takes an even more dramatic and visible dive. Likely.

Trump just has to keep his mouth shut, or talk in measures sensibilities if not. He still sprouts forth, but far more controlled than before. I am not seeing anything that can stop him.

I think I'm with you on this. Six months ago I wouldn't have given Trump a snowball's chance, but the Dems have a natural talent for snatching defeat from the jaws a victory. And in Trump's favor, when the world feels ever more dangerous, people are going to naturally gravitate to the President who is more of a fighter.

 

[Scott CWO]

FYI,
Your two separate statements above are self-contradictory...

Which is it? If you feel that the "2 weeks to flatten the curve" was the right move, you cannot criticize Trump's handling of Covid at the same time...

However, you are correct that Trump was instrumental, if not solely responsible, for greenlighting all resources necessary to get these drug companies to produce not only a vaccine, but to look at any and all treatment options for which he was also wrongly criticized and ridiculed for... The fact that the vaccines did not perform as advertised and were ultimately used to weaponize and divide Americans is not on Trump... I guess it's also Trump's fault that he was not a virologist?

Trump was put into an impossible position and was creating Covid policy at the mercy of the so-called "experts" who we have since learned got just about everything wrong... Trump's "2 weeks to flatten the curve" was a compromise with Fauci and Birx who actually wanted an indefinite and perpetual total lock-down. We now know how well that worked out for those democrat-controlled states who kept the shut-down going even thought all of the developing "science" was indicating that the lockdowns were far more harmful than helpful...

I'm not giving Trump a "pass" on anything Covid related, but I will certainly acknowledge that he and his Administration were in an unprecedented, and impossible situation where they were forced to make the best decisions possible based on the information at hand. Unfortunately, we all now know most of that information was not science-based... My only criticism of Trump was that he did not replace Fauci and Birx from the Covid team much earlier when he began to realize he was getting bad, politicized advice from unelected bureaucrats. Sadly, there is no telling how many lives could have actually been saved if the MSM and TDS'ers spent less time calling Trump a xenophobe and blocking the credible science-based information instead of pushing their false political narratives.



You need to stop getting your polling information from Corrinne Jean Pierre... LOL..

You are apparently one of those in that parallel universe I was referring to... There are currently 0.0 national credible polls that have Brandon defeating Trump in either the national election or among the swing states... Trump leads by 5 points in the collective average...

Trump would be President right now if not for COVID. Biden is a crap show. Trump also should have ended his daily COVID press conferences much earlier because he got too bizarre. He can’t help himself and starts to say silly things. His October debate performance was very problematic and then the vote by mail was the last nail in the coffin.

 

[BSO Dave]

I am not seeing anything that can stop him.

Unfortunately, lots of things can stop him...

1) Ballot harvesting
2) Mail in voting where no voter ID is required
3) In-person voting where no voter ID is required
4) The continued weaponization of our justice system
5) Digital election interference by social media outlets

The dems will stop at nothing, and I mean nothing, to keep Trump from getting re-elected...

 

[BSO Dave]

Trump would be President right now if not for COVID. Biden is a crap show. Trump also should have ended his daily COVID press conferences much earlier because he got too bizarre. He can’t help himself and starts to say silly things. His October debate performance was very problematic and then the vote by mail was the last nail in the coffin.

Agreed....

 

[Scott CWO]

Unfortunately, lots of things can stop him...

1) Ballot harvesting
2) Mail in voting where no voter ID is required
3) In-person voting where no voter ID is required
4) The continued weaponization of our justice system
5) Digital election interference by social media outlets

The dems will stop at nothing, and I mean nothing, to keep Trump from getting re-elected...

I think you forgot a big one: his own mouth. He’s his own worst enemy. With his border policies, it should be a landslide but his behavior will make it a close call.

 

[Hunt anything]

Trump's chances will improve even further if any of the following happen:
1. Prices continue to go up in the supermarket. Likely.
2. There is a terrorist attack of some sort in the USA. The agencies have all given warnings, so likely.
3. There is a flare up in the Middle East.
4. Biden's cognitive ability takes an even more dramatic and visible dive. Likely.

Trump just has to keep his mouth shut, or talk in measures sensibilities if not. He still sprouts forth, but far more controlled than before. I am not seeing anything that can stop him.

I agree Kevin BUT he is incapable of keeping his trap shut. He does have flashes of sensibility but few and far between!!

 

[BSO Dave]

I think you forgot a big one: his own mouth. He’s his own worst enemy. With his border policies, it should be a landslide but his behavior will make it a close call.

Okay, but one could argue that Trump's personality is precisely what separated him from the establishment politicians in the first place. So, in all likelihood he would never have been elected in 2016 if it wasn't for his "mouth"...

People that don't like his personality then, will not like him anymore now... This is nothing new to the discussion... He is unlikely to change his personality to the extent that it will sway any voters... Like you said, if you judge him on policy alone, the choice should be overwhelming. If some people are not capable of putting emotions aside and voting for their own well-being, and the future of this republic, then I honestly don't know what else I can say about that.

 

[mdwest]

but his behavior will make it a close call.

I honestly think this is the single biggest factor..

the dems dont have to do a great job at ballot harvesting or anything else if no one shows up to vote for Trump in the first place...

while a segment of the population doesnt seem to care about what he says/does as long as his intended agenda is in line with theirs... the truth is a significant segment of the population DOES care about what he says and does outside of his primary campaign promises..

like it or not.. there is a fairly significant % of the population on the R side of the house that wants a president to be "Presidential".. and like it or not, there is a good number of people on the R side of the house that have been offended by his demeanor, word choices, and tactics..

combine that with the middle class, white, female vote (not a small component of the population) that seem to overwhelmingly dislike him.. and he's got a very tough row to hoe between now and November..

the very best thing he could do (IMO) is stick to major issues (the border, Ukraine, Israel, global terror, the economy, etc), and refrain from mentioning another persons name for the next 8 months (no reason to say a word about Biden.. we all know what we know at this point.. no reason to attack Haley.. she has lost the race and everyone knows it now.. no reason to pick a bombastic nickname for any of the clear clowns running the D party.. everyone already has an opinion of Schumer, Pelosi, Newsome, Harris, etc..etc..)... stop all the childishness.. and stick to trying to demonstrate that your focus is on fixing what is broken and improving what hasnt been broken yet.. THEN maybe he has a shot...

but if all we're going to hear between now and November is "Crooked Joe", "Nimbra" every time he wants to reference Haley, Ron DeSanctimonious, "Crazy Nancy", etc.. etc.. I dont think he's got a snowballs chance in hell.. he will continue to disenfranchise people and continue to piss people off.. and to win, he needs every vote he can possibly get...

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Trump would be President right now if not for COVID. Biden is a crap show. Trump also should have ended his daily COVID press conferences much earlier because he got too bizarre. He can’t help himself and starts to say silly things. His October debate performance was very problematic and then the vote by mail was the last nail in the coffin.

Trump would be President right now had he had some level of personal restraint, and been the adult in the room choosing to be more measured in public and disengaging from Twitter.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

"If some people are not capable of putting emotions aside and voting for their own well-being, and the future of this republic, then I honestly don't know what else I can say about that."

I see great irony in that Dave. I would posit that if you applied that very sentiment to Trump - if he had been able to do that near the end of his 4 years - he'd be nearing the end of his second term right now.

I personally do not believe the future of our republic is in necessarily more capable hands with him - just different hands, with other types of concerns. He is not the same person he was in 2016, and I do not believe he has any chance at the same level of effectiveness.

 

[NE 7x57]

Trump is hated by 99% of Democrats, he's hated by a significant portion of the Independents and he's hated by a sizable minority of his own political party. Where exactly is he going to get the support to win? That's something none of his most ardent supporters have been able to tell me.

As a Republican you can't win a Presidential election without picking up a bunch of independent voters and all the voters of your party. And while his base will vote for him regardless of the stupid crap that comes out of his mouth he's not going to swing independents with outrageous rhetoric. IF he would talk policy, even if it's just inflation and the border issue and contrast the current with what he has planned he probably could sway some folks. But he won't, instead he'll talk about how great his first administration was, how great he is, how stupid the current administration is (a fact) and how awesome his undefined plan will be. Leading some to wonder if there even is a plan.

So evidently his strategy for victory is hinged on getting every member of his base to vote and pray that a huge number of Democrats and left leaning independents stay home. If that doesn't work we're going to be stuck with the same shit show we've had for the past 4 years OR it will get even worse when Harris takes over.

 

[BSO Dave]

combine that with the middle class, white, female vote (not a small component of the population) that seem to overwhelmingly dislike him.. and he's got a very tough row to hoe between now and November..

I don't necessarily disagree with anything you have stated. However, it is also significant to note that Trump is exceeding all expectations with Hispanic and Black voters while Brandon is shedding them like rats fleeing a sinking ship which he most definitively is... This could very well bridge the vote gap with Trump's shortfall of votes with white suburban women. The significance of mentioning this stat is that these are representative of demographics that are voting out of the financial reality that they are experiencing when comparing the two candidates which is indicative of voting without emotion or traditional party lines. If that trend continues even a little, Brandon will have to close the polls much earlier than 2am this time to find the votes...

I see great irony in that Dave. I would posit that if you applied that very sentiment to Trump - if he had been able to do that near the end of his 4 years - he'd be nearing the end of his second term right now.

I personally do not believe the future of our republic is in necessarily more capable hands with him - just different hands, with other types of concerns. He is not the same person he was in 2016, and I do not believe he has any chance at the same level of effectiveness.

I respectfully see it differently...

I think Covid and all of its related fallout to the voting changes in 2020 is what actually defeated Trump. Had the vaccines been approved before early voting started, I think you would have seen a landslide for Trump and no amount of mean tweets would have mattered... What you are all forgetting is that the same personality characteristics that are causing you all to clutch your pearls and gasp are the same personality characteristics he got elected with, yet now it's a problem?

I really do not see how you assert he is not the same person, and I absolutely disagree that he will not have significant positive impact on this country the day he takes office. Just what he can do with executive orders alone will be life-changing especially in regard to the border and energy independence. And, I will re-emphasize again, that Trump was by no means my first choice, but now, the best and ONLY choice...! I wanted DeSantis, but 75% of republicans refused to vote for him in the primaries. Can't help with that....

 

[wesheltonj]

99% of all D’s hate R’s no matter who they are. Just look at Bush 1&2, Reagan, Ford, Nixon. The only one they liked was Eisenhower as he won the war.

 

[BSO Dave]

Trump is hated by 99% of Democrats, he's hated by a significant portion of the Independents and he's hated by a sizable minority of his own political party. Where exactly is he going to get the support to win? That's something none of his most ardent supporters have been able to tell me.

Can you clarify how you came to this conclusion? Trump DOMINATED the electorate in every state but one... He has overwhelming republican support according to every recordable measure... If the republican party hated Trump as you allege, they sure have a funny way of showing it especially in how they voted in the primaries.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

"If some people are not capable of putting emotions aside and voting for their own well-being, and the future of this republic, then I honestly don't know what else I can say about that."

I see great irony in that Dave. I would posit that if you applied that very sentiment to Trump - if he had been able to do that near the end of his 4 years - he'd be nearing the end of his second term right now.

I personally do not believe the future of our republic is in necessarily more capable hands with him - just different hands, with other types of concerns. He is not the same person he was in 2016, and I do not believe he has any chance at the same level of effectiveness.

TT I disagree that he would be less effective. Although the USA has plenty of problems they pale compared to the global situation. I would argue that he has the best chance of anyone on parade to bring the temperature back down. Why? They know he is a huge change from Biden, but they can't take a chance on predicting him. Conversely if Biden gets in they can almost bank upon his actions.

 

[shootist~]

Trump's chances will improve even further if any of the following happen:
1. Prices continue to go up in the supermarket. Likely.
2. There is a terrorist attack of some sort in the USA. The agencies have all given warnings, so likely.
3. There is a flare up in the Middle East.
4. Biden's cognitive ability takes an even more dramatic and visible dive. Likely.

Trump just has to keep his mouth shut, or talk in measures sensibilities if not. He still sprouts forth, but far more controlled than before. I am not seeing anything that can stop him.

Highly likely: Trump's chances crater when the Dems replace Biden at the convention.

A Lucy holding the football moment.