I took a .308W with 165 Woodleighs for PG my first (paid) hunt. It was perfect. A 9.3x62 for PG on the 2nd paid hunt (because the PH said too, for Eland). Next time will be a 7x57 and 175's. I've sold off my 9.3 and .416. I just don't need them for PG.