@NewboomerThat's why I load my own. I know the components and how they went together one round at a time on a single stage press.
My first load exercise with any new cartridge/rifle is to pick the bullet I want to use and do a ladder test with 10 rounds and from that one trip to the range I have sufficient information to load another 10 to confirm the load and I am set to go
This is the 200yd ladder test for the 6.5 Grendel-Max and you can see that loads 7,8,9, and 10 were right in the center of the vertical vibration swing. I wrote the #10 load wrong and it should have been 2695 rather than 2615 with loads 11 and 12 exiting the barrel on the end of the upward swing with earlier loads all ove the place so I tested two loads with 32.4 and 32.6 and chose the 32.6 load on next range day which confirmed its choice and have used it ever since then to kill dozens of goats for the freezer.
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This is the confirmation target for the 32.6gn load which is the standard load now and out performs the standard Grendel by a decent margin. So two range sessions and it was done. I have switched to the 123gn SST with the same results on paper and better results on animals
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The slow way to load but the best as you know everything is going to be 100% correct.
I use a powder thrower but still weigh each of my charges on an electronic scale as well. Slower still but I know all my hunting rounds are as consistent as I can make them.
Old and slow the only way to go when reloading the best hunting ammo.
I'm sorry to hear that happened on what sounds like a solid adventure.Just reporting TWO different bad ammo scenarios as of recently. I'm pleased to report that both manufacturers are taking the ammo back for testing. Please take heed of this info and monitor this thread for updates. In any case, I will come forward with lot numbers once I'm absolutely certain of the facts.
1.) The Nosler Safari Grade .470 Ammunition. This is the ammo featured on sale rather frequently these days that comes with the monometal solids produced by Nosler. The ammo appears to be loaded by Norma since it says "manufactured in Sweden" in the fine print.
Defect noted: Two cartridges didn't go boom. I'd be dead right now if those cartridges happened to have been the two prior cartridges! The bullets slightly protruded and the primers completely dented. I weighed the failed cartridges and it is roughly 111gr light of other cartridges. The inference is that some of the cartridges were loaded without powder. I own two cases of this stuff that Nosler is going to receive and inspect further.
2.) The Federal Premium Woodleigh Hydrostatic solid in .375 Holland & Holland. Unfortunately, I bought two cases of this ammo and cannot determine which of the two (or both?) lot numbers are for certain problematic. The ammunition failed to pass-through on consecutive shots at Eland, Kudu, and two Zebras at minimum. (when we started paying attention to perfect shots and difficult recoveries.) The solids were not pushed up against the skin on the opposite side of the animals either. Deadly-unsafe dangerous game ammo. Federal is going to test the ammo in their ballistics lab. One of the cases of ammo is about 7 years old. The other case of ammo is about 4-5 years old.
All ammo was kept in hygenic, perfect storage conditions.
What I would do if I was reading this:
A.) It's all just rumor until the ballisticians assign root cause, but maintain caution. I have no axe to grind and no interest in slandering good American businesses. I post this interim update because this is dangerous game ammo that creates life-and-death scenarios. Failures can result in tragedy.
B.) The Nosler ammo appears clean-cut on how to verify good ammo. Give your ammo a shake. If you don't hear your powder rattling you have a problem. Alternatively, weigh all your ammo and make sure its the same weight.
C.) The Federal ammo is a bigger issue. It's either wholly defective, or the Woodleigh Hydrostatic Bullet is unsafe for use in 375HH for whatever reason of how it functions. Not a good soft, and a non-functional solid, in my experience with these ammo lots.
Honestly not a surprise with Winchester. I've had too many issues with them, the one that made me swear them off being a bullet failure that was recovered when my wife shot the exact same deer we tracked for 7 miles a year later. Their response when I called them solidified my decision. Have seen so many failures from other users since then I've lost count. Not enough money in the world for me to shoot their stuff.I had multiple rounds of Winchester factory .300 WM Ammo not fire this year. I later discovered that the primers were seated too deep to be contacted by the firing pin. Two rounds were discovered faulty as I was shooting at an elk. Thankfully I carry extra ammo and was able to reload and successfully shoot.
I have now learned to check primer seating depth. I’m not sure what to do with the faulty ammo. Suggestions?
I’m quite glad it was not a DG experience (and the elk is now in my freezer)
Hmmm? Seems just the opposite. IMO, for the experienced, knowledgeable and responsible reloader, the days of factory loads being better have been over for a loooong time! Right now I am 100% confident in my reloads because I am the QC officer for my ammo in my rifles. I surrender that control, authority and responsibility if I use factory ammo or ammo loaded by someone else. I am not 100% confident in any factory ammo or ammo loaded by another for use in my rifles- period.The days of handloads being better have been over for nearly 2 decades now.
what, sako ammo as well as sako rifles?I bought some Sako 450 Rigby ammo loaded with 450gr Swift A-frames specifically for use on DG. Somehow the recoil of this ammo was substantially less than my loaded ammo and I just could not figure out what I am doing wrong....
Until I started weighing the factory ammo and something did not add up....
Pulled a bullet and my suspicion was confirmed... they loaded 400gr Swift A-frames.....
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I understand the desire to be the captain of your own destiny so to speak. But what you describe is a psychological concern, not a statistical one.Hmmm? Seems just the opposite. IMO, for the experienced, knowledgeable and responsible reloader, the days of factory loads being better have been over for a loooong time! Right now I am 100% confident in my reloads because I am the QC officer for my ammo in my rifles. I surrender that control, authority and responsibility if I use factory ammo or ammo loaded by someone else. I am not 100% confident in any factory ammo or ammo loaded by another for use in my rifles- period.
The only exception to that rule is for self defense ammo, which use is judged by a different set of standards and in a completely different way.