Politics

[Brent in Az]

Beta male O'Rourke, was the one that threatened to take our guns by executive order if he was elected.

 

[steve white]

The first question I have is: Which of you will actually pay taxes if this election is stolen and socialism declared. Second question: if you don't have the stomach for a tax boycott, why should I believe you will have the grit for a coming civil war? I guess many may just let them come to your door and take your guns...or will you?

 

[Ray B]

Right, I was thinking of when Biden told O'Rourke that he'd be in charge of disarming America.

 

[IdaRam]

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Target rich environment?

 

[Red Leg]

The first question I have is: Which of you will actually pay taxes if this election is stolen and socialism declared. Second question: if you don't have the stomach for a tax boycott, why should I believe you will have the grit for a coming civil war? I guess many may just let them come to your door and take your guns...or will you?

Steve - I will.

So will anyone else with a lick of sense.

Exactly who is going to be your a arbitrator of what constitutes a "stolen" election? The Dems are spewing the same nonsense to rally their base. Secondly, what do you mean by "socialism will be declared." Serious question. How, exactly. does the Democrat Party accomplish that? You honestly believe all businesses will be nationalized and the stock market closed to investment?

Eventually, you will get around to paying your taxes or you will go to jail. It is fairly simple how that works. Refusing to pay taxes sounds nobel, but taking on the IRS is a losing strategy. Secondly, if Dem majorities in the House and Senate enact new gun restrictions, as they have done in the past, it would be a really good idea to comply with those laws. There is not a chance that they will attempt to confiscate all firearms, but I suspect there is a good chance that if they win the WH and both houses there will indeed be restrictions on magazines and certain semi-automatics. It is the way it works if they should win. Elections have consequences.

"A coming civil war" would be a disaster for this nation and everything the Chinese and Russians could possibly hope for. Whatever the result what be infinitely worse than the country we now have.

This whole "steal the election" narrative is extremely dangerous, and both parties are playing with fire by postulating it. The Dems want to undermine a second Trump term and the right wing nuts see it as a "casus belli." Both are dangerous stupid strategies.

 

[Ray B]

The question I have is: if you don't have the stomach for a tax boycott,?

A tax boycott would be ineffective because the government can punch in as much deficit as they want. Taxes no longer need to be collected to cover spending. The government doesn't even need to print money- just make electronic deposits into accounts. Which actually has been proposed as a way to curtail illegal commerce. If there are no hundred dollar bills, a drug deal or bookmaker will have difficulty completing transactions.

I'd suggest that when you are choosing the hill to die on, make the decision based on a valid strategy.

 

[JimP]

 

[Hogpatrol]

The first question I have is: Which of you will actually pay taxes if this election is stolen and socialism declared. Second question: if you don't have the stomach for a tax boycott, why should I believe you will have the grit for a coming civil war? I guess many may just let them come to your door and take your guns...or will you?

I think we're good.

 

[Hogpatrol]

The first question I have is: Which of you will actually pay taxes if this election is stolen and socialism declared. Second question: if you don't have the stomach for a tax boycott, why should I believe you will have the grit for a coming civil war? I guess many may just let them come to your door and take your guns...or will you?

I worked with some hard core ironworkers that refused to pay their taxes. Took a few years but they eventually had to take a forced vacation, lost their homes, pickups and boats.

 

[Mike Van Horn]

I think we're good.

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Been a little concerned with my age the way things are.
Seeing this, l will be fine

 

[Ray B]

I can't decide if the guy in the blue shorts is Colin Kapernick, or like the guy in the dress next to him is just another anchor at MSNBC/CNN.

 

[steve white]

While I appreciate Red Leg and others bringing me up short, (I can be a little hot headed) I would suggest we are already in a civil war==it is just not bloody yet. The lengths to which the left will go if they win will, I believe result in the dethronement of our founding principles, replaced by people with so few qualifications and morals that we will lose our country, the value of our currency--and thus retirements, any control over what our children are taught, even the blessing of Providence. Who, with a "lick of sense" would have believed open talk of socialism, seditious riots and efforts to erase culture which we are witnessing while they DON'T have the power in our nation? If that is something you are willing to accept as "elections have consequences" then you are betting on other nations continuing to fund our foolishness, and their goodwill and desire for us to continue to lead the world, and are probably fueling the left's bolshevik "hope and change" by weakness and appeasement. I speak of a MASSIVE tax boycott--say 30 million minimum, too many to jail, in order to bring the deep state to its knees. I mean it as a far lessor evil to civil war. But if you think things can never reach a point where civil war becomes a moral necessity I say you are wishing. What we criticize in the snowflakes in effect admits that a leftist educational system has successfully stolen our children by re-education. If anyone is leftist enough to accept what is politically being proposed by AOC & co., then I say THEY have already fired the first shot and deserve return fire. BTW, we are already paying 50% total tax burden now--just how much do you plan to let the left pile on in your lifetime? Or your children's lifetime. Suppose IMPOSSIBLE spending makes it impossible to ever repay the debt--wouldn't that be a great strategy to destroy this country. What if elections DIDN'T have consequences because the left decided the Supreme Court could have 11, or 15 or more judges? When will you know we have passed the point of no return? We are facing bolsheviks, not ordinary citizens, we must treat the threat as such. I open the floor to debate concerning what should be the TERMS of surrender by the deep state when we break their power--should it include parity in the number of conservative tenured professors? Reform to restore a free press? (Seems the rich control the news now) Massive cutback in the size of gov.? Term limits? Isn't it about time that elections Had consequences, because THEY DIDN'T WHEN TRUMP WON. He has been prevented from bringing about the consequences of the last election by ILLEGAL means.

 

[JimP]

It appears the Antifa made a appearance at the Sturgis motorcycle rally this year.

For those of you that don't know Sturgis is a small town in South Dakota USA that holds a annual rally for motorcycle enthusiast. It is about as red, white, and blue that you can get. The town expects up to 250,000 motorcyclist to show up each year for a week long party. This is the last place that I would want to be to protest.

I'm not sure what was going on at the first of the video but the police quickly escorted the protesters down the road to the cheers of the onlookers.

 

[Brent in Az]

Would be a pleasure, to see those ANTIFA pukes get ripped apart by the Bikers.

 

[Pheroze]

You should qualify that. China is the biggest EXTERNAL threat. The potentially fatal threat is INTERNAL.

And, any possibility those are related problems? China benefits from a weaker USA.

 

[meigsbucks]

so that's why.

Dr. Pepper Company put out the news that it will be in short supply because of Covid.
Fauci and the libs must have put a hit on them.

Dr Pepper is the latest pandemic shortage
By Scottie Andrew, CNN

Updated 5:55 PM ET, Tue August 11, 2020

Dr Pepper is harder to find on grocery shelves these days. The brand said it's working with distributors to fix short supplies of the soda.
(CNN)Add Dr Pepper to the list of pandemic-induced shortages.
Like toilet paper before it, the popular soda is widely unavailable in some parts of the US. The shortages apply to every flavor, Dr Pepper said in a note on Twitter.
The low inventory is the result of increased demand for the product, according to Keurig Dr Pepper, the company that owns Dr Pepper and other beverage brands.
Sales of the soda have "increased consistently over the last four years," the company said in a statement to CNN.

Why America is running out of aluminum cans
"Rest assured we're working with our local distribution partners experiencing low inventory levels in certain markets to meet this increased demand, and we encourage every loyal Dr Pepper fan to continue checking their local retailer for their favorite varieties," the company said.
Keurig Dr Pepper didn't respond to CNN's query about aluminum can shortages, which have stalled production among brewers who have cut down on the beer brands they sell.
That shortage was caused by customers who loaded their pantries with canned drinks in the spring, at the beginning of the pandemic, and the transition from drinking in restaurants from taps to drinking at home from cans.
"Beverages in convenient take-home packages like aluminum cans are particularly popular right now, and beverage company employees are doing all they can to make sure store shelves remain fully stocked," the American Beverage Association, which represents companies that sell non-alcoholic drinks, said in a statement to CNN.
It's not clear yet whether other beloved soda brands will be hit by shortages. Coca-Cola declined to comment when reached by CNN, and CNN reached out to PepsiCo and is waiting to hear back.
CNN's Alicia Wallace contributed to this report.

I retired from Dr Pepper Snapple (now Keurig Dr Pepper) and have kept in contact with friends still working there. They can’t keep up with production. People can’t go to restaurants so they are drinking soda at home, hence the run on bottled and canned soft drinks. Not only are the major brands affected but the ancillary brands are not even being produced. Bottled water is also being produced nonstop.

 

[Hogpatrol]

While I appreciate Red Leg and others bringing me up short, (I can be a little hot headed) I would suggest we are already in a civil war==it is just not bloody yet. The lengths to which the left will go if they win will, I believe result in the dethronement of our founding principles, replaced by people with so few qualifications and morals that we will lose our country, the value of our currency--and thus retirements, any control over what our children are taught, even the blessing of Providence. Who, with a "lick of sense" would have believed open talk of socialism, seditious riots and efforts to erase culture which we are witnessing while they DON'T have the power in our nation? If that is something you are willing to accept as "elections have consequences" then you are betting on other nations continuing to fund our foolishness, and their goodwill and desire for us to continue to lead the world, and are probably fueling the left's bolshevik "hope and change" by weakness and appeasement. I speak of a MASSIVE tax boycott--say 30 million minimum, too many to jail, in order to bring the deep state to its knees. I mean it as a far lessor evil to civil war. But if you think things can never reach a point where civil war becomes a moral necessity I say you are wishing. What we criticize in the snowflakes in effect admits that a leftist educational system has successfully stolen our children by re-education. If anyone is leftist enough to accept what is politically being proposed by AOC & co., then I say THEY have already fired the first shot and deserve return fire. BTW, we are already paying 50% total tax burden now--just how much do you plan to let the left pile on in your lifetime? Or your children's lifetime. Suppose IMPOSSIBLE spending makes it impossible to ever repay the debt--wouldn't that be a great strategy to destroy this country. What if elections DIDN'T have consequences because the left decided the Supreme Court could have 11, or 15 or more judges? When will you know we have passed the point of no return? We are facing bolsheviks, not ordinary citizens, we must treat the threat as such. I open the floor to debate concerning what should be the TERMS of surrender by the deep state when we break their power--should it include parity in the number of conservative tenured professors? Reform to restore a free press? (Seems the rich control the news now) Massive cutback in the size of gov.? Term limits? Isn't it about time that elections Had consequences, because THEY DIDN'T WHEN TRUMP WON. He has been prevented from bringing about the consequences of the last election by ILLEGAL means.

In this country, the people faced the Bolsheviks during the Great Depression and the Nazis shortly before WW2. Been through a president being assassinated, race riots, the civil rights chaos, Black Panther party, George Wallace POTUS run, and a few other "end of the republic" scenarios. Take it from an old fart. This too shall pass. The smart people are figuring out how to make money no matter which way the political winds are blowing.

 

[Ray B]

The smart people are figuring out how to make money no matter which way the political winds are blowing.

I was told by a reliable source that several of the rich&powerful are hedging their options by purchasing homes in different hemispheres.

 

[Hogpatrol]

I was told by a reliable source that several of the rich&powerful are hedging their options by purchasing homes in different hemispheres.

The smart ones donate to both parties. They win either way. Research the Fanjul brothers who own the Florida sugar business.

 

[Hogpatrol]

Monday morning lighter note, somewhat political.