Politics

[Rocked and Loaded]

I hear you.. but.. again, its about priorities..

Canada only has so many resources.. there are only so many competent officers and NCO's.. so many training dollars.. so many tools to train with.. and there are only so many hours in a day...

Even the US, with its vast resources is very very careful about how it spends money and time related to wargames (for what its worth, my firm has been the primary contractor that oversees USAF title 10, theater level wargames for the last decade)..

So unless Carney really thinks the threat is high priority.. its a senseless waste of those resources that could have been better utilized elsewhere..

For example, the US will absolutely spend a lot of time and money this year developing inteligence on Chinese military capabilities, its advancements, its changing TTPs, where it is today vs where its going to be in 5 years, 10 years, etc.. and then it will actively plan and wargame out dozens of scenarios at varying locations and levels through its war colleges, its wargaming institutions, etc.. and document and shelve the outcomes, and work toward improving outcomes for the next wargame...

but it will spend little time at all concerning itself with an invasion of Spain... the liklihood of the US entering into an armed conflict with the Spanish is low.. and the money, time, and resources would be far better used elsewhere..

thats not to say the US doesnt have a war plan for just about any possible scenario you could imagine with every possible enemy, foreign or domestic..

but many of those war plans are OLD.. and dont get dusted off very regularly.. because there are far greater priorities... and again, the US has FAR greater resources avaiable than Canada..

you dont want to know how old the inteligence, maps, information, etc was when the US invaded Grenada for example...

vs when we hit Maduro recently at his house in Venezuela.. you'd be amazed just what the US knew and was able to plan for... and just how detailed everything was down to the gnats ass..

its all about priorites..

How about a scenario where you’re a Canadian PM who doesn’t really think the US is a risk but wants to look aggressive and proactive to the Canadian voters, many of whom probably don’t know just how poor the state of the Canadian armed forces are?

In that case it might be better politically to waste less money appearing hawkish than actually fixing the problems with the military budget (and taking money away from social programs voters like).

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

How about a scenario where you’re a Canadian PM who doesn’t really think the US is a risk but wants to look aggressive and proactive to the Canadian voters, many of whom probably don’t know just how poor the state of the Canadian armed forces are?

In that case it might be better politically to waste less money appearing hawkish than actually fixing the problems with the military budget (and taking money away from social programs voters like).

you forgot who’s company is head countered in the states and who’s children live in the states, who also spent 15 years living in America while working for Goldman sachs.

There has been an idea floated that carney is going to attempt to have Canada join the e.u. It makes sense for Europe from a resources perspective as we are resource rich. In order to accomplish that he needs to keep the United States as the enemy.

 

[Aaron N]

I fully agree with everything your saying and think that if we are war gaming a U.S. invasion that Carney is wasting valuable resources that could be used to rearm with.

That said you’re actually making Arron’s argument for him. If a country with limited resources should only war game the most likely of aggressors than the u.s. is the one Canada should war game and not in the sense that I believe that the u.s. is a threat to invade Canada rather that the u.s. is the only aggressor that could attack Canada without having to factor in the response of the u.s. military to a boots on the ground invasion of Canada.

Yeah in my mind (I hope) it’s high level boardroom stuff, not war games at CFB wainwright.

 

[spike.t]

Africa's gold powerhouse bypasses US dollar to clear trade with China as Beijing unlocks zero-tariff access for 53 African nations

Ghana has begun allowing importers to use the Ghanaian cedi to pay for eligible imports from China, in a move aimed at reducing businesses’ reliance on the US dollar for bilateral trade

africa.businessinsider.com

 

[spike.t]

PETA assholes......some of their demands/ideas are truly ludicrous....

Animal rights group faces Charity Commission review after targeting Prince William and Catherine

The Archbishop of Canterbury was also targeted by Peta

www.gbnews.com

 

[spike.t]

And the plague in Russia.....

European Commission monitors suspected plague outbreak in Russia

The European Commission is "very closely" monitoring a suspected outbreak of pneumonic plague in Siberia and is prepared to coordinate a response among member states if necessary.

www.pravda.com.ua

 

[Boyd Brooks]

Mark Con Carney only gives a shit about, Mark Carney, and not a single Canadian, he said he would represent. It’s unfortunate that he could tell Liberals to eat shit sandwiches and they would ask for seconds. The last great liberal Prime Minister was Lester B Pearson, who won the 1957 Noble Peace Prize. They sent him to the curb to elect the first card carrying communist in Canada, Pierre Elliot Trudeau and is been a continuous slide to the 3rd world since then.

 

[Brent in Az]

Just like COVID lab accident.....

 

[SaintPanzer]

The only reason the US would even consider going into Canada uninvited would be a preemptive strike on Chinese forces invited and allowed to mass there.

And considering how tight he is with China, he probably should have a plan for that.

 

[Hank2211]

How tight who is with China?

1. The last state visit by China to Canada as over two decades ago. The last state visit by China to the US was two weeks ago. And no one, other than perhaps the UK, puts on a state visit and dinner like the US. What a show that was! The elite of American politics, business and technology were all out in force to celebrate China and its leader.

2. No leader of Canada has ever held hands with the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China, as President Trump did during that visit.

3. Mainland China holds about $620 billion of US Treasury securities. Only two countries rank higher. China holds about 6% of Canadian federal debt. Not a big creditor.

4. The value of the US’s trade with China is more than three times the value of China’s trade with Canada. So while the US is brow than three times bigger than Canada, I suggest that it’s absolute dollars that are important here, not relative dollars.

It seems the US is far tighter with China than Canada is.

Having said that, I’m not sure why Canadians and Americans should be slamming each other’s countries. There are not two more natural allies in the world.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

How tight who is with China?

1. The last state visit by China to Canada as over two decades ago. The last state visit by China to the US was two weeks ago. And no one, other than perhaps the UK, puts on a state visit and dinner like the US. What a show that was! The elite of American politics, business and technology were all out in force to celebrate China and its leader.

2. No leader of Canada has ever held hands with the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China, as President Trump did during that visit.

3. Mainland China holds about $620 billion of US Treasury securities. Only two countries rank higher. China holds about 6% of Canadian federal debt. Not a big creditor.

4. The value of the US’s trade with China is more than three times the value of China’s trade with Canada. So while the US is brow than three times bigger than Canada, I suggest that it’s absolute dollars that are important here, not relative dollars.

It seems the US is far tighter with China than Canada is.

Having said that, I’m not sure why Canadians and Americans should be slamming each other’s countries. There are not two more natural allies in the world.

I think he was referring to the 1/4 billion dollar debt that mark carney incurred for Brookfield management while also serving as trudeaus chair of economic growth. Could also be referring to brookfields deep investments in Chinese real estate logistics and renewable energy.

 

[Hank2211]

I think he was referring to the 1/4 billion dollar debt that mark carney incurred for Brookfield management while also serving as trudeaus chair of economic growth. Could also be referring to brookfields deep investments in Chinese real estate logistics and renewable energy.

Well, I had, and have no idea, so let’s go with that. But given Brookfield’s stock price performance, why would someone want to denigrate a management team that has done so well for their shareholders? Isn’t that what they’re paid to do? And if they didn’t you’d fire them or even sue them?

 

[SaintPanzer]

I think he was referring to the 1/4 billion dollar debt that mark carney incurred for Brookfield management while also serving as trudeaus chair of economic growth. Could also be referring to brookfields deep investments in Chinese real estate logistics and renewable energy.

Yes, this.

Also, search for info with reference to Han Dong.

Then Michael Ma.

Then Paul Chiang.

Ask yourself where the intended destination for this stuff: https://www.canada.ca/en/border-ser...cals-from-china-used-to-produce-fentanyl.html

Wikipedia is never a source. But there are pages that are footnoted, and those can be sources. I mean, there's an entire Wikipedia page titled "Chinese Government interference in Canada." I liked this quote: "In 2025, a parliamentary inquiry concluded that China was "the most active perpetrator of state-based foreign interference targeting Canada's democratic institutions."

Again, Wikipedia not a source... but that came from the Economist.

I have some major disagreements with the current POTUS. But to think China is not using Canada as a "High Speed Avenue of Approach" is at best naive.