Politics

[Big_Easy]

Yeah ...because the "Get Trump" rhetoric is such a productive use of time and taxpayer money.

You didn't seem to mind when Republicans wasted Tens of millions of taxpayer dollars investigating Hillary Clinton for nonsense reasons?

 

[PARA45]

Hillary Clinton "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

 

[rookhawk]

What has been proven to create healthy societies is the WASP model of:

— delayed gratification
— longer time horizons
— education (including self-), intellectual diligence
— hard work
— saving money
— entrepreneurship
— faith
— family

The model works even for non-Whites, but when it's abandoned not even being White will prevent decline.

I'd argue that many of these virtues most commonly manifest in Asian-Americans, probably accounting to their #1 wealthiest demographic in America. Ashkanazi-Jewish Americans I think are #3, also obsessive with several of the items on the checklist.

 

[Tanks]

Your leaving out the “labor contractors” and if you think that $37.50 per hour you pay translates into them making $37.50hr then you are in denial; also as far as black labor being excluded.

How many black laborers speak Spanish? which is often required of US citizens to work with illegals, just like having a drivers license so the US citizen who speaks Spanish can be incharge of driving the illegals around with no licenses.

Actually, all of the contractors I mentioned own their own business and work alongside their helpers. The lady and her helper that I pay $37.50 is basically just themselves, the lady's son and another. All US citizens. She has been cleaning a neighbor's house for 15 years. I hired her after my own cleaning lady retired after working for me for 30+ years.

Yes, farm, construction workers etc. that work for a contracting company are different. I am not involved with those so not sure how many are temporary visa workers and how many might be illegal.

 

[WAB]

This happened in the Oklahoma governors Republican primary race as well.

Drummond- moderate Republican, really more old line Democrat with name recognition.

Mazzei- conservative Republican that can’t communicate and stumbles over his words.

Keating- Conservative Republican, articulate, self made oilman, energetic in his 40’s.

Trump endorses Mazzei.

Without Trumps endorsement Keating is in the runoff with Drummond and easily wins.

Now we have a coin flip between two marginal candidates. Oklahoma could have done much better.

I totally agree with you, his ego knows no bounds and he has had a negative effect on more than one election for the republicans. I find it interesting that many admit his impact on these elections but mock Canadians when they point out his negative impact on their election.

 

[WAB]

As I tried to point out, there are a host of reasons for the collapse of the black family structure in this country.

If we use 1960 as a baseline, 20-22% of black children lived in single-parent households. Over the next two decades between 1960 and 1980 single parentage rose to nearly 50% by 1980. The numbers peaked over the next two decades rising to just over 55% in the mid-1990's. It has gone down in recent years but remains plateaued at roughly 47-50%. Hardly a triumph in the restoration of a stable family environments for half of this country's black children.

It is political gamesmanship to point to a single factor driving this persistent pattern. Most serious students of the issue point to proud economic changes broad economic changes, urban manufacturing declines, changes in welfare policy design, and shifting social norms in the black community (and more broadly) regarding marriage. And yes, drug related sentencing also played a role - as did an explosion of inner city crime that corresponded to the crack epidemic leading to those more draconian sentencing guidelines.

Nothing is simple and nothing is the exclusive "fault" of either political party or administration. No matter where bias leads our finger pointing, fatherless households remain a significant persistent, now sixty years and counting, problem within the black community that has improved only marginally. So long as conditions encourage the George Floyd's of the inner city to be the role models and heroes of black youth, little is likely to change.

A contributing factor in the South was the collapse of manufacturing, particularly in industries with a large blue collar workforce. The textile industry would be at the top of the list, a casualty of NAFTA. Although Bill Clinton eventually signed the legislation to implement this, HW signed the original trade pact. The D’s and R’s own this one equally. I’m no isolationist, but NAFTA was a terrible agreement for the US.

 

[Red Leg]

A contributing factor in the South was the collapse of manufacturing, particularly in industries with a large blue collar workforce. The textile industry would be at the top of the list, a casualty of NAFTA. Although Bill Clinton eventually signed the legislation to implement this, HW signed the original trade pact. The D’s and R’s own this one equally. I’m no isolationist, but NAFTA was a terrible agreement for the US.

Affected those northern manufacturing jobs just as badly, perhaps worse, for which many blacks families had moved North. Detroit, Flint, Cleveland, Dayton, Chicago, and Milwaukee to name the more prominent.

 

[WAB]

Affected those northern manufacturing jobs just as badly, perhaps worse, for which many blacks families had moved North. Detroit, Flint, Cleveland, Dayton, Chicago, and Milwaukee to name the more prominent.

I’ll never understand the political desire to drive manufacturing offshore. I completely support letting markets work and allowing production to go where it is most efficient. However, this is way beyond that. It created artificial barriers to continued domestic manufacturing. This is exactly what the Kyoto Protocol did. It was sold as an environmental play when in fact it wasn’t. It created incentives for firms to move production from developed nations with good environmental performance to developing nations with abysmal environmental performance. There is no way the people pushing it were unaware that globally it would increase the environmental impact of production. IMO this gives you a glimpse into what the far left is really trying to accomplish.

 

[Tanks]

It created incentives for firms to move production from developed nations with good environmental performance to developing nations with abysmal environmental performance. There is no way the people pushing it were unaware that globally it would increase the environmental impact of production. IMO this gives you a glimpse into what the far left is really trying to accomplish.

CA did that and is doing that in regard to oil industry. They drove refineries to shutdown and now buying refined products from South Korea etc. and of course because of Iran war South Koreans are not getting enough oil to refine.

I think they are figuring if there is enough pain at the pump people will embrace EVs even though the electric grid can't support it.

My company monitors pumping stations for a few municipalities. My employees have been getting power outage alarms on a regular basis all summer long.

 

[Big_Easy]

I think they are figuring if there is enough pain at the pump people will embrace EVs even though the electric grid can't support it.

Depends on where you're at, some grids can handle it. Some can't. CA is adding batteries and solar very quickly, in 5-7 years it'll be an entirely different grid than it is today.

 

[Brent in Az]

The radical faction of the DSA is claiming that AOC is too moderate to run for President.