Politics

[Pondoro]

Bla-bla-bla.. Iraq x 2 - Aghanistan..you will never learn..

Lets see in 2 -3 weeks where we stand..eh..?

 

[fourfive8]

Anyway..where is JD Vance in this..he has been strikingly absent lately..? Disagreement over the war with Iran..?

As much as you hope for internal strife in the Trump admin, that’s not at all it. Vance is VP, not the Prez, not the Secretary of War and not the Secretary of State. One of the striking contrasts right now, you and the brainless troll tools of the left, foreign or domestic, have trouble with is the obvious fact that the Repubs bench is deep and the Dems don’t have one.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Another example of creating vacuums and consequences. And reason to stop after Iran has been De Fanged and resist regime change.

When the Iraq war seemed to be won, Hussain removed from power. Paul Bremer sold De Bathification as a way to capitulate to the Iraq Shia majority. (Bad idea)

That decision and manipulation from outside led to the real Iraq war starting. Ayman al-Zawahiri Started the insurgent bombings which he and his followers eventually fell in with al-Qaeda.

Hopefully we have learned a lesson. De Fang but don’t create a vacuum.

 

[Red Leg]

Another example of creating vacuums and consequences. And reason to stop after Iran has been De Fanged and resist regime change.

When the Iraq war seemed to be won, Hussain removed from power. Paul Bremer sold De Bathification as a way to capitulate to the Iraq Shia majority. (Bad idea)

That decision and manipulation from outside led to the real Iraq war starting. Ayman al-Zawahiri Started the insurgent bombings which he and his followers eventually fell in with al-Qaeda.

Hopefully we have learned a lesson. De Fang but don’t create a vacuum.

It is never mentioned in this country, but one can argue that the regime change experiment in Iraq was actually successful. I am not defending Bremer who made some of the most brainless post conflict decisions ever in our history, but, after all, neither the despotic Hussein nor the murderous Baathists are still in power. Iraq is generally aligned with US Middle East interests, and Iraq is holding regular elections with peaceful transitions of power.

The liberal elites in this country and Europe of course complain that the system is still characterized by corruption and occasional violence. That is true. But, and it is a pretty large BUT, look at the neighborhood. All in all, the whole experience has worked out fairly well from a US and Western European perspective.

 

[RLD]

I seriously doubt the disciples, apostles and early church leaders would express that sentiment. The Church started going off the rails in the 4th century.

If you believe Scripture is inconsistent and irrational then I have to wonder why you’re concerned about how I view Catholicism?

I am Catholic and quite at peace with the fact that the scriptures are internally inconsistent.

They were delivered by God, recorded by men. One of those is perfect, the other is not.

Anyone who believes the bible is internally consistent likely has not studied it very closely.

 

[wesheltonj]

I see where Trump says Paxton is electable, he likes both men a lot, and Talarico is 'weak'.

Sounds to me like Thune and company's admonishments to back Cornyn have not gotten through yet. Not sure I agree with the POTUS on Paxton or his assessment of Talarico.

He's wrong on both counts. If Paxton and Talarico it will be close like the Cruz/Beto race. But Talarico might actually be the winner. I personally believe the Talarico is more dangerous than Beto.

And @pilar that Paxton Securities Fraud case was BS. As a lawyer you are allowed to give financial advice. Estate planning & Tax lawyers do it daily. Paxton's mistake was not obtaining at that time a $35 licenses from the Texas Securities Board allowing him to take specific investment recommendation and take a commission.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

I am Catholic and quite at peace with the fact that the scriptures are internally inconsistent.

They were delivered by God, recorded by men. One of those is perfect, the other is not.

Anyone who believes the bible is internally consistent likely has not studied it very closely.

They are not internally inconsistent. That’s a false assertion. All Scripture is Spirit breathed. Written by men as they were moved to by the Holy Spirit. It cannot be imperfect. To have a low view of Scripture is to have a low view of God. Catholicism is a false system full of false teachings. Now if you are speaking of the apocryphal books that the Catholic Church uses then you are correct, they are internally inconsistent and primarily used to prop up false teachings. Nice sweeping statement at the end, also a false assertion and an assumption to boot. Your earlier assertion that Catholicism is closest to biblical Christianity (or whatever you said) couldn’t be more wrong, it’s just about the most unbiblical form of what most people see as “Christianity”.

 

[RLD]

It is never mentioned in this country, but one can argue that the regime change experiment in Iraq was actually successful. I am not defending Bremer who made some of the most brainless post conflict decisions ever in our history, but, after all, neither the despotic Hussein nor the murderous Baathists are still in power. Iraq is generally aligned with US Middle East interests, and Iraq is holding regular elections with peaceful transitions of power.

The liberal elites in this country and Europe of course complain that the system is still characterized by corruption and occasional violence. That is true. But, and it is a pretty large BUT, look at the neighborhood. All in all, the whole experience has worked out fairly well from a US and Western European perspective.

While I get how you could come to that conclusion I am not sure the Iraq regime change was successful in the bigger picture.

While the former Iraq regime was secular, the new government is clearly religious and Sharia is now the law of the land. That is not helpful.

 

[wesheltonj]

While I get how you could come to that conclusion I am not sure the Iraq regime change was successful in the bigger picture.

While the former Iraq regime was secular, the new government is clearly religious and Sharia is now the law of the land. That is not helpful.

Well as long as good friends in the Kingdom keep turning out a crop of fresh Wahabi's that not going to change in the Middle East.

 

[steve white]

I would think that it would give Iran pause to consider attacking the warships of its customer base?

 

[RLD]

They are not internally inconsistent. That’s a false assertion. All Scripture is Spirit breathed. Written by men as they were moved to by the Holy Spirit. It cannot be imperfect. To have a low view of Scripture is to have a low view of God. Catholicism is a false system full of false teachings. Now if you are speaking of the apocryphal books that the Catholic Church uses then you are correct, they are internally inconsistent and primarily used to prop up false teachings. Nice sweeping statement at the end, also a false assertion and an assumption to boot.

Let's try it on then.

How did Judas die? Did he hang himself or did his guys burst out? What did he do with the blood money? Did he throw it back or did he use it to buy land? Even C.S. Lewis realized the bible could not be taken as inerrant when faced with this problem.

How many stalls were there in Solomon's tables? 4,000 or 40,000?

What order did God create the kingdoms (ie plants, animals, man etc)? Is the Genesis 1 version correct or Genesis 2? In fact why does the bible contain two slightly different but each complete creation stories within Genesis?

There are some really great texts out there exploring how the bible was written and who wrote it. They are really worth an open minded read.

 

[RLD]

Well as long as good friends in the Kingdom keep turning out a crop of fresh Wahabi's that not going to change in the Middle East.

Tragically true.

 

[John Wasmuth]

Texas primary ballot contained this proposition

 

[RLD]

Texas primary ballot contained this proposition
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Just to make sure I understand correctly, this was a proposition on a Republican primary ballot, which means the result of the vote would be for setting the Republican platform rather than creating law in Texas?

 

[John Wasmuth]

I’m to understand that it would get the ball rolling to amend the Texas Constitution to to prevent any other type of law from being implemented in Texas.

 

[RLD]

I’m to understand that it would get the ball rolling to amend the Texas Constitution to to prevent any other type of law from being implemented in Texas.

Thanks, it should be interesting to watch the developments as they come along.

The Ontario experience in the same kind of thing has been quite problematic.

 

[Brent in Az]

Texas primary ballot contained this proposition
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Fortunately, Arizona has banned foreign laws, including Sharia.

 

[Newboomer]

Fortunately, Arizona has banned foreign laws, including Sharia.

As should every state. This is America after all.

 

[Brent in Az]

In the grand scheme of things, forget not, the brave airmen of the refueling tanker.

 

[Scott CWO]

Mark..you speak of handling the truth... You write side up and down about the past..to little use..

You lecture me about Israel and their loss October 7..hideous as it was.. And several here scream about Iran killing 30.000+ protester in the streets..also a massacre..

But when Israel kill 70.000 palestinians in Gaza..no reaction..so you may stop the hypocrasy.. Trump backed Israel all the way on this.. Hypocrasy at its worst.. !

Why dont you just say it out loud..you dont give a fuck about how many arabs die..

1200 dead jews and 70.000 dead arabs.. Who is the greatest slaughter here..?? Israel..backed by Trump

Do I want the Iran regime gone..sure.. But its not happening..

Perhaps a history lesson is in order.

Clinton had an Arafat and Barak peace deal largely done but then:

Hamas's Impact: Throughout the late 1990s and early 2000s, Hamas suicide bombings were strategically timed to undermine progress and were a major factor in the failure of the deal. Do you remember the bus bombings and other bombings? Perhaps you were too young or your media outlets did not report them enough?

Hamas is and was a terrorist organization that undermined and eventually replaced the PLO. It then became a political party that the majority of Palestinians supported and voted for overwhelmingly. It calls for the destruction of Israel. The “innocent” Palestinians later cheered the atrocities of October 7th when women were raped, mutilated and killed. Hostages were taken and starved, raped and some were later killed. The Palestinian people ARE Hamas. Votes have consequences.

Now please describe the innocent Palestinians to us?

Would you have protested the Allied bombings of Germany with unguided dumb bombs? Did your parents and grandparents protest the Allied tactics? I’m guessing not!?

Edit: I’ve now read @Red Leg more eloquent post about the German losses in WWII. Same point I tried to make.