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Tanks said:
Media is so misleading. Here is an article...


The headline:

ICE detains man who has lived in US since he was a baby at routine appointment as family suffers​


Start of the article:


You have to read the article to the finish for the facts.



Frustrating.
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and this is why the only people trusted less than politicians and attorneys are "journalists"...
 
Tanks said:
Media is so misleading. Here is an article...


The headline:

ICE detains man who has lived in US since he was a baby at routine appointment as family suffers​


Start of the article:


You have to read the article to the finish for the facts.



Frustrating.
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Agreed, very frustrating.

I love to hear people say "They were brought here as children!"; my rebuttal usually short circuits their brain......

If I was a heroin dealer and I got caught with $1mil cash, would my children be allowed to keep that money? NO, it would be seized and actually any property I owned that was purchased with unverifiable income would be seized by civil forfeiture.

So why should the children of people who entered the country illegally be allowed to keep their ill gotten gains?
 
deewayne2003 said:
Agreed, very frustrating.

I love to hear people say "They were brought here as children!"; my rebuttal usually short circuits their brain......

If I was a heroin dealer and I got caught with $1mil cash, would my children be allowed to keep that money? NO, it would be seized and actually any property I owned that was purchased with unverifiable income would be seized by civil forfeiture.

So why should the children of people who entered the country illegally be allowed to keep their ill gotten gains?
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Huh. Had never thought of it that way. :E Hmmm:
 
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Wheels said:
She did such a great job for Canada.

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And again, Zelensky aligns himself with someone/something that he knows Trump absolutely hates (and someone that absolutely hates Trump).. Trump has referred to her as a "terrible person", a "whack job", "totally toxic" and said "she will not be missed" when she resigned from her Deputy PM position in 2024...

Pretty hard to complain about not receiving US assistance when your chief advisor on economic development is someone that has gone to the press numerous times to try to scorch Trump both personally and professionally.. when you know Trump a) Doesnt work with people he doesnt like b) is vindictive and c) always wants to make a "deal".. (i.e. if you want F16's and M1's, youre going to have to negotiate with me and offer something in return..)..

Z continues to dig his hole deeper and deeper with the current administration...

He better be cozying up to Canada and Europe very, very hard... or he's going to find it increasingly difficult to stay in the fight...

And Im not sure Canada or Europe have all that much more to give..
 
mdwest said:
He better be cozying up to Canada and Europe very, very hard... or he's going to find it increasingly difficult to stay in the fight...
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He might be looking at Canada and EU as the best option considering Trump's seeming alliance with Putin.
mdwest said:
when you know Trump a) Doesnt work with people he doesnt like b) is vindictive
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That describes Trump vis a vis Zelensky.
 
375 Ruger Fan said:
Since you are a Marine, I am guessing you are well versed in its history. Double Medal of Honor recipient, General Smedley Darlington Butler became very critical of politics and the use of the military back in the day. I believe the book Butler wrote was called “War is a Racket.”

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Smedley Butler - Wikipedia

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He wrote that book after reporting to Congress under oath the conspiracy to overthrow Pres. Roosevelt and install himself as dictator. Certainly you are not comparing a man who did his duty to the fullest during and after his active official service to the Hon. Mr. Kelly who used his position in politics to, albeit ambiguously, “remind” service members of what is an order?
 
Tanks said:
He might be looking at Canada and EU as the best option considering Trump's seeming alliance with Putin.

That describes Trump vis a vis Zelensky.
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Not in disagreement with you at all...


Just saying people keep questioning why Trump doesnt support Z... actions like this are the obvious reasons why..

Z very openly supported Biden, and then Harris in their bids in the 2024 election cycle.. he also openly supported other key democrats during that cycle both at the state and federal level..

Zelensky called Vance "radical in his views"..

In Feb of this year he agreed to a deal with Bessent, and then 2 days later told Rubio he didnt have the authority to make the deal that he agreed to.. and then the next day rejected the deal saying it wasnt in Ukraines interest.. he then 3 days later publicly criticized Trump and the administration for their peace negotiation strategy without saying anything to the administration first about it.. followed by the next day taking to social media stating that Trump lives in "disinformation".. So in 1 week he pissed off, rebuffed, and insulted the Treasury Secretary, the Secretary of State, the Vice President, and then the President..

And lets not forget that none of this is new.. Zelensky and Trump have not liked each other since at least 2019 when Trump was impeached when he was negotiating with Zelensky over aid vs Ukraine providing information on Hunter Bidens antics with the oil and gas company.. Zelensky bet on the Bidens..

That was clearly a stupid bet..

Whether Trump likes or respects Putin isnt really the issue... its that he absolutely hates Zelensky.. and Zelensky has given him several legitimate reasons to hate him...

And now Z aligns himself with someone that anyone with an IQ greater than 9 knows wont do anything to improve his relationship with the current administration... if anything it will harm it...

So... When people get all up in arms about why the US isnt doing more for Ukraine... well.. the answer is right in front of them..

Im not saying I agree with it... POTUS should always act in the best interest of the USA.. his personal feelings and opinions shouldnt matter..

BUT... we all know thats not how this POTUS operates... If he thinks youre a turd.. he simply isnt going to do anything for you.. more likely than not, he's going to try to flush you and rid you from his presence..

No one should be questioning why Trump treats Ukraine / Z the way he does.. its obvious to the point that Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder could see it..

Had Z chosen to play his cards a little differently, theres a pretty good chance the US would be playing its cards very differently (Trump was obviously very interested in the rare earth minerals deal 11 months ago)..
 
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Betterinthebush said:
He wrote that book after reporting to Congress under oath the conspiracy to overthrow Pres. Roosevelt and install himself as dictator. Certainly you are not comparing a man who did his duty to the fullest during and after his active official service to the Hon. Mr. Kelly who used his position in politics to, albeit ambiguously, “remind” service members of what is an order?
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Yes, that is exactly what I am doing.
 
Tanks said:
A very well-articulated analysis.

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I genuinely like Keane… it’s not because we are largely politically aligned (we are).. but because he is articulate, intelligent, and makes it very clear when something is fact vs an educated/experienced opinion…

I get the impression he is one of the very few people involved with the media that is genuine, sincere, and honest…
 
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