Politics

[CJW]

Albanese already in motion.....tougher gun laws on the way

Bondi Beach: Australia needs tougher gun laws, says PM, as gunmen revealed to be father and son

Police say the 50-year-old gunman, who died at the scene, held multiple gun licences. His 24-year-old son is in hospital in critical condition.

www.bbc.com

"People’s circumstances change. People can be radicalised over a period of time. Licences should not be in perpetuity."



I would start with removing the people being radicalized and the the reason for the radicalization. But hey, that's just me.

 

[Altitude sickness]

Radical Islamists are very successful in using the “enlightened” liberals until they eventually don’t need them any longer, when they become the ruling class. Then due to their lifestyle. The Lefist will be the first to be stoned or burned alive.

Churchill had a catchy phrase for this.

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

Everyone is condemning the laws in Australia England and Canada and don’t get me wrong I’m as disheartened as anyone over liberal gun laws but isn’t the real issue the fact you can no longer rely on a jury of your peers to acquit you?

If the man who had taken the gun away from the shooter had then used it on the shooter he could sleep pretty soundly at night knowing his fate was in the hands of our collective, if the jury was made up of the members of an alphabet soup Palestine rally he’d be condemned surly. Isn’t that the true legal issue?

 

[Altitude sickness]

The Syrian born Australian hero took the correct legal action. If the guy on the ground was no longer armed and he shot the terrorist while he was retreating or crawling away like a bug. In a liberal setting he could definitely be prosecuted.

Be careful when posting online on how you would have shot him. It can be used against you if you are ever in a similar situation. The argument is. you think you are Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson. Looking for trouble.

 

[Brent in Az]

Rob Reiner and his wife were found stabbed to death in their Brentwood home in California.
Their addict son could be a person of interest. Details pending

 

[PARA45]

A retired F-15 fighter pilot friend told me the following. We were discussing China and their capabilities. He basically said that our aircraft could fire every missile at their disposal, and the Chinese wave would still be coming due to sheer volume of aircraft they have, if they all could get off the ground of course. He also mentioned that our fighter pilots would run circles around the Chinese pilots, based on experience and training. He flat out said that our fighter pilot training is by far the best in the world. A fighter pilot will fly at a minimum 2-3 times a week (if not more), and if not in the cockpit, he/she would be on the Sim conducting more training.

Many years ago, our fighter squadron went to Rostock, Germany to fly with the German's Mig-29s. At that time, we had heard all these great things about this aircraft, about the look down, shoot down capabilities, etc, etc. Our Block 32s F-16s (old acft, I believe we are up to Block 60 F-16Es now) did amazingly against the Mig-29s, on an average of 7-8 Migs killed for every F-16 lost. Oh, and the German fighter pilots were/are probably better trained than the Chinese pilots are.

I'm only giving my perspective from the Air Force side of the house. The Naval Aviators and Marine Fighter Pilots are all excellent pilots with plenty of stick experience and again would fly circles around any enemy pilot.

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

Albanese already in motion.....tougher gun laws on the way

Bondi Beach: Australia needs tougher gun laws, says PM, as gunmen revealed to be father and son

Police say the 50-year-old gunman, who died at the scene, held multiple gun licences. His 24-year-old son is in hospital in critical condition.

www.bbc.com

And the news update right above that is that one of the shooters has been on the authority’s radar since 2019.

These people will go after any issue but the real ones.

 

[steve white]

Oh good Lord. And we are collectively complaining about the heavy handedness of European social media surveillance? I can't wait to see the form the blowback will take with regard to this nonsense. I wonder how many on this thread would survive British or French scrutiny.

Trust Trump. If there isn't a crisis with a traditional ally, he'll find a way to create one. I am beginning to have concerns that what we saw with the Biden administration, where subordinate "true believers" were running amok, isn't starting to take root in Trump's.

Tourists — including those from Britain, Australia, France, and Japan — will be mandated to provide five years of their social media history as part of their applications to visit the U.S., according to a notice posted by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, or CBP, on Wednesday.

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www.cnbc.com

It occurs to me that the only way that program could be made workable is to have AI run it and I don't trust anyone to set up the algorithms it would run by!! Once set up, it could be taken over by any new liberal administration and used as political weaponry.

 

[steve white]

Albanese already in motion.....tougher gun laws on the way

Bondi Beach: Australia needs tougher gun laws, says PM, as gunmen revealed to be father and son

Police say the 50-year-old gunman, who died at the scene, held multiple gun licences. His 24-year-old son is in hospital in critical condition.

www.bbc.com

Sure, double down on what has never worked before....

 

[deewayne2003]

The Syrian born Australian hero took the correct legal action. If the guy on the ground was no longer armed and he shot the terrorist while he was retreating or crawling away like a bug. In a liberal setting he could definitely be prosecuted.

Be careful when posting online on how you would have shot him. It can be used against you if you are ever in a similar situation. The argument is. you think you are Clint Eastwood or Charles Bronson. Looking for trouble.

lol…. I said I would shoot him because he could have a bomb in his bag.

2 explosive devises were later found in their possession.

 

[CJW]

And the news update right above that is that one of the shooters has been on the authority’s radar since 2019.

These people will go after any issue but the real ones.

They'll be labeled an islamaphobe and they're scared of that.

 

[Boyd Brooks]

Their knee jerk reaction is “more gun control” not more crime control, or immigration reform or vetting people from countries that preach hate to democracy! It’s the guns fault, what fucking retards!

 

[CJW]

Their knee jerk reaction is “more gun control” not more crime control, or immigration reform or vetting people from countries that preach hate to democracy! It’s the guns fault, what fucking retards!

I don't think that's it at all. They've acknowledged the victims, sang kumbaya over the man who disarmed the dad terrorist, told everyone to unite, avoided using the word islamic, yada, yada, yada.

Blaming guns is the distraction and perfect opportunity to take more rights from good citizens.

Nobody has placed proper blame. Nobody has taken proper blame. By all rights there should be politicians in jail. They know this. Instead, the good citizen will be held responsible.

 

[Altitude sickness]

The proper blame is on Iran. Our intelligence and Israeli Intelligence both know exactly who is radicalizing people to attack Jews and westerners. There should be an open acknowledgment that Iran with help and funding from Hamza Bin Laden and proxies are behind all of this. World wide.

Hamza flies under the radar and won’t take credit. He learned from his father’s mistakes. And unfortunately Hamza through Iran proxies will have conducted something in Europe and the U.S. soon enough.

 

[PARA45]

And the news update right above that is that one of the shooters has been on the authority’s radar since 2019.

These people will go after any issue but the real ones.

Seems like the assessment in 2019 was wrong. I guess the only solutions for Australia is to have more gun laws. SMH!

One of the shooters first came to authorities' attention in 2019 - Albanesepublished at 22:44 14 December
22:44 14 December​

The 24-year-old shooter - the younger of the pair - first came to authorities' attention in October 2019, Albanese revealed in his press conference.

He added that the man was "examined on the basis of being associated with others and the assessment was made that there was no indication of any ongoing threat or threat of him engaging in violence."

 

[Altitude sickness]

Don’t believe most of the reporting that Hamza Bin Laden was killed. He is alive and prefers everyone to believe he was killed.

 

[CJW]

We could blame Iran. We could also acknowledge that the west has been letting in monsters like this hand over fist.

 

[Doug Hamilton]

Everyone is condemning the laws in Australia England and Canada and don’t get me wrong I’m as disheartened as anyone over liberal gun laws but isn’t the real issue the fact you can no longer rely on a jury of your peers to acquit you?

If the man who had taken the gun away from the shooter had then used it on the shooter he could sleep pretty soundly at night knowing his fate was in the hands of our collective, if the jury was made up of the members of an alphabet soup Palestine rally he’d be condemned surly. Isn’t that the true legal issue?

Not really, I don't think. The laws in these countries have been written to make any use of force by civilians a crime. Any competent prosecutor would get a guilty finding from any average jury. Things may not be as bad as it.looks to me as a US citizen, but I have read enough about guilty findings in the UK to believe that it is.

 

[CJW]

I believe even pepper spray is illegal in the UK. Says a lot about what they think a commoner should be able to do to defend themselves.

 

[RLD]

Not really, I don't think. The laws in these countries have been written to make any use of force by civilians a crime. Any competent prosecutor would get a guilty finding from any average jury. Things may not be as bad as it.looks to me as a US citizen, but I have read enough about guilty findings in the UK to believe that it is.

It is very difficult to compare, because there are several different self defense standards in the United States, but I don't think many Americans really understand the Canadian law on self-defense. To be fair lots of Canadians don't either.

There is no duty to retreat in Canada, and as long as the force used to respond to the threat is reasonable and proportionate, you are good to go.