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[Altitude sickness]

Unfortunately, facing reality of non assimilating cultures and stating it out loud. Is quickly demonized as Xenophobic or Racist.

Just like during the Covid pandemic when it became known that over 90% of the deaths were directly related to Obesity, and other Co morbidities and their effects.

The media, and Government would not only hide that vital news. They would de platform anyone sharing those “conspiracy theories”.

Painful honesty sometimes can save the patient. But obviously feelings are more important.

 

[Tanks]

EU policy, resisted by only a very few European States, is to bridge that collapsing population gap with immigrants primarily from the Third World, a significant majority of whom are Muslim. Whether or not that is a meaningful "threat" to European culture is currently unknown. If the majority assimilate then Europe will gradually become a little darker and more religiously diverse, but would remain "European." If they do not, then not only will native Europeans gradually become extinct (remember, however uncomfortable, math is inexorable) but so would European culture as we currently understand it.

Well, they have not assimilated in the UK. I do not recognize the UK of today compared to the UK that I went to boarding school at in the '70s.

I figure in another 20-30 years UK will be a majority Muslim country with Islamic laws and values.

 

[mdwest]

Well, they have not assimilated in the UK. I do not recognize the UK of today compared to the UK that I went to boarding school at in the '70s.

I figure in another 20-30 years UK will be a majority Muslim country with Islamic laws and values.

sadly, I think you very well might be right..

at this point its going to damn near take a revolution to get their country back..

I think before that happens you'll see en masse migration from the UK to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the US.. they'll just give up their country before they fight to regain it..

I hope Im wrong... but I dont think I am..

The problem is Canada and Australia are already on a very similar path.. theyre probably 10-20 years behind the UK.. but if they dont start making some changes theyre going to be overrun as well.. their immigration policies arent that different..

 

[bowjijohn]

sadly, I think you very well might be right..

at this point its going to damn near take a revolution to get their country back..

I think before that happens you'll see en masse migration from the UK to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and the US.. they'll just give up their country before they fight to regain it..

I hope Im wrong... but I dont think I am..

The problem is Canada and Australia are already on a very similar path.. theyre probably 10-20 years behind the UK.. but if they dont start making some changes theyre going to be overrun as well.. their immigration policies arent that different..

I’ve put my case as clearly as I can

To comment further would risk the police at the door

Besides

Over half the population here are content with the direction of travel

 

[thoma018]

as @mdwest said; The problem is Canada and Australia are already on a very similar path..

We have signs and symptoms here too. How do/can we stop it ?

 

[VertigoBE]

I fear that it is only too accurate

European birth rate is, and has been for some time, below the 2 children average necessary to maintain a population

The economies of Europe are in decline

Propping them up with uneducated 3rd world peoples who represent a net economic loss is not a solution

The idea that Muslims will assimilate with a western culture is hopeful in the extreme

We are being destroyed from the inside by the left wing determined to undermine the capitalist way of life and replace it with a (hopeless) desire for a global socialism

What will actually happen, at best, is a fracturing of cultural, legal and political systems resulting in pockets of surviving groups based around a residual culture

At worst the Western, Christian culture will be over-run

If you in the USA think that you are immune from the catastrophe that is befalling Europe, I would suggest you look to history - it is littered with smug and failed empires

If I had any sense I'd leave the UK and accept the economic cost of moving

Business has taught me that, in a failing market, your first loss is your least loss

If I had the courage I'd take that loss and move

I have a US passport (thanks to a first marriage) - however, at 68 years old I'd not have the income and residual assets to prosper

I'm also reminded of many of my family and friends, when faced with a similar conundrum - first in Zambia, then Rhodesia and finally SA - was to ''keep moving South''

The west is in trouble - ''moving South'' is not a cure - merely an expensive postponement of the inevitable

Part of me feels like the German Jew of 43 - who knows that they should get out - but just hopes that all will be well

Although both the US and the EU have battled with insufficient birth rates for some time and both regions have resulted into allowing or even promoting mass immigration to counter the mathematics, as @Red Leg put it. The main difference between both regions is the source of the bulk of these immigrants. At least Latin America is mostly devout Christian and many become hard working contributors to society.

Your last paragraph very much captures the feelings my wife and I are having for months now.

 

[wesheltonj]

I’ve put my case as clearly as I can

To comment further would risk the police at the door

Besides

Over half the population here are content with the direction of travel

Unfortunately, you are correct about the police. When they are meeting passengers getting off the plane at Heathrow to arrest them for Facebook posts and walking into a women's house while naked in the tub to arrest her too. I am afraid your country is lost. I just hope that I never get arrested getting off the plane a Heathrow.

 

[wesheltonj]

Although both the US and the EU have battled with insufficient birth rates for some time and both regions have resulted into allowing or even promoting mass immigration to counter the mathematics, as @Red Leg put it. The main difference between both regions is the source of the bulk of these immigrants. At least Latin America is mostly devout Christian and many become hard working contributors to society.

Your last paragraph very much captures the feelings my wife and I are having for months now.

Unfortunately, the priests in those countries preach "liberation theology." Not exactly the same a Western Christianity.

 

[VertigoBE]

Unfortunately, the priests in those countries preach "liberation theology." Not exactly the same a Western Christianity.

I think I’ll take that over Islam fundamentalism

 

[RLD]

Unfortunately, the priests in those countries preach "liberation theology." Not exactly the same a Western Christianity.

Jesus is a complicated figure. But I think it is fair to say he sought significant social change.

 

[Saul]

As someone who has spent significant time in the UK over the years and owns some property there, I must agree that the demographic changes have left it unrecognizable and I fear that we are beyond the point of turning things around.

 

[wesheltonj]

Jesus is a complicated figure. But I think it is fair to say he sought significant social change.

I don't recall reading that Jesus was a marxist or promoted class warfare.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

 

[Boyd Brooks]

Canada is closer to the UK in total collapse of identity than you think. Canada is reporting only 500,000 immigrants in 2024 however there are probably 2,000,000 that are here illegally and most from India and Pakistan. They are on a slow roll revolution, that is enabled by the leftist bleeding heart governments. They will take over the world and no one will be able to stop it.

 

[PARA45]

There was a video showing how the Muslims would take over the world without a single shot fired. Basically by taking over the population with their birth rate. Western world is falling behind. It showed the current birth rate in Europe and the average Muslim birth rate and it was like 3-1. I’ve looked for the video and couldn’t find.

 

[PARA45]

This is not the one, but very similar.

 

[RLD]

I don't recall reading that Jesus was a marxist or promoted class warfare.

Not all liberation theology does that either.

He certainly called us to do better by the poor and downtrodden. He was surely no great fan of the rich or the ruling classes.

 

[RLD]

Canada is closer to the UK in total collapse of identity than you think. Canada is reporting only 500,000 immigrants in 2024 however there are probably 2,000,000 that are here illegally and most from India and Pakistan. They are on a slow roll revolution, that is enabled by the leftist bleeding heart governments. They will take over the world and no one will be able to stop it.

You think Canada has two million illegal immigrants here from India and Pakistan?

That would be a surprise.

 

[CJW]

Ever wondered what that strange taste was in your meat? Maybe it tasted a little like Somalian.

 

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