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You in America should perhaps try to learn a little from the Finns, regardless of political color, they were unanimous when it came to what was best for Finland. I can only say that I admire them, they are proud of their country and their independence, which has been strengthened since the fall of the Soviet Union.
It is also a socialist country.

No thanks!
 
The more you travel globally, the more you realize that there is much to learn outside the borders of the good old USA.
 
Biden, brilliant .. draws a red line, no military support for Israel (after congress passed the resolution "if I'm wording that correct" to finance) .. whoa!
Since when does one negotiate with terrorist?
 
Biden, brilliant .. draws a red line, no military support for Israel (after congress passed the resolution "if I'm wording that correct" to finance) .. whoa!
Since when does one negotiate with terrorist?

That's not what I read. He said he would not provide the weapons/munitions needed for going into Rafah. Other support would remain. I disagree with the Rafah decision, but let's keep it accurate.
 
That's not what I read. He said he would not provide the weapons/munitions needed for going into Rafah. Other support would remain. I disagree with the Rafah decision, but let's keep it accurate.
That's the same thing!
He flat out stopped the 20 billion for Israel that was agreed in Congress. (But they went forward with the 60 billion to Ukraine)

Who is Biden to tell Israel "How to fight they're War"

He went from "Don't"
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To Pandering
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Kristi Noem is nothing but another Sarah Palin and if chosen as VP can cost Trump the election.
 
The more you travel globally, the more you realize that there is much to learn outside the borders of the good old USA.
Some here really need it.
 

Your video link to the Communist News Network didn't work, but the content is really irrelevant to the overall point which is that even though unification was not a campaign ticket item, Trump initially made several attempts to invite democrats to work on bipartisan issues which were soundly rejected... If you recall, early in his term, Trump made several attempts to negotiate on legislation with Schumer, Pelosi, and many others right up until they tore up his SOTU Speech and began the House committee "Russia-gate" nonsense and subsequent impeachments... And let's not forget, the dems "unifying" call for public confrontation and violence against anyone supporting Trump that has still not been retracted to this day...

What everyone seems to forget is that these people had no intention whatsoever on unifying the country or working in a bipartisan manner especially with any policy or legislation originating from Trump... The level of contempt and hate these people have for not only Trump, but all conservatives, would never allow them to work with him to allow any political victories...

I've said it many times before, and I firmly believe, without being hyperbolic, that trying to reason and negotiate with liberals is no more productive than trying to negotiate with terrorists... Neither have any intention of compromise, and eradication of the opposition is their only goal... After the last 4 years seeing what we've seen, lots of folks are finally waking up to this realization...
 
That's the same thing!
He flat out stopped the 20 billion for Israel that was agreed in Congress. (But they went forward with the 60 billion to Ukraine)

Who is Biden to tell Israel "How to fight they're War"

He went from "Don't"
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To Pandering
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Well I don’t think it’s the same thing, but I’m not defending Biden here. It’s a dumb decision and I disagree with it as I said above. No need to shout.
 
Biden is just a figurehead. He's saying and doing what his handlers want .
They are playing both sides of the fence. Acting like they care about Israel, yet pandering to the protesters and Tlaibs' and Omar's constituents.
Democrats are well aware of Biden's dismal poll numbers. They are trying to salvage votes.
 
That's the same thing!
He flat out stopped the 20 billion for Israel that was agreed in Congress. (But they went forward with the 60 billion to Ukraine)

Who is Biden to tell Israel "How to fight they're War"

Not exactly the same thing...

What he said is if they commit to a major incursion into Rafah, that he would stop sending in offensive capability (i.e. bombs, artillery, etc).. that would support that incursion..

That doesnt mean defensive support is cut off (at least for now), which would stymie Hezbollah from coming across the walls of the West Bank, or that would knock down drones or rockets being launched at Israel, etc..etc.. in fact he very specifically says he will continue to support Iron Dome and other defensive capabilities.. listen to the actual interview at the link below..

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/politics/joe-biden-interview-cnntv/index.html


Regarding who is Biden to tell Israel how to fight a war.... well... he's the guy holding the munitions they want... so.. he is exactly the guy to tell them if they want his support, what they need to do to obtain it...

Im not saying I agree with him (I absolutely do not... we're I in the west wing I'd be advocating for sending in advanced offensive capability to support Israel, and would be taking much more aggressive action to support the states and municipalities with their situation regarding the protestors, etc)...

Im simply saying the executive office absolutely has the power and authority to do what Biden is doing.. this is exactly how our system of government is designed to work.. (whether we like the actions the executive office is taking or not)..

the best solution if we dont like the action its taking, is to replace the person occupying that office in November (although I have serious doubts as to whether or not thats going to happen)...


All of that said.. as everyone on both the left and the right well know.. Biden SAYS a lot of things.. and rarely actually means it.. he waffles and changes directions routinely... if he is trying to appease dearborn today he'll say one thing... if he is trying to appease Jewish voters in NYC tomorrow, he will swear on a stack of bibles to something polar opposite of what he told the palestinian protestors 24 hours prior... and if confronted about his duplistic position.. he'll look the reporter right in the eye and call the reporter a liar, dog faced pony soldier, or something else ridiculous, and act like it never happened..

So who really knows if Israel will continue to get 105mm howitzer shells or not?
 
Your video link to the Communist News Network didn't work, but the content is really irrelevant to the overall point which is that even though unification was not a campaign ticket item, Trump initially made several attempts to invite democrats to work on bipartisan issues which were soundly rejected... If you recall, early in his term, Trump made several attempts to negotiate on legislation with Schumer, Pelosi, and many others right up until they tore up his SOTU Speech and began the House committee "Russia-gate" nonsense and subsequent impeachments... And let's not forget, the dems "unifying" call for public confrontation and violence against anyone supporting Trump that has still not been retracted to this day...

What everyone seems to forget is that these people had no intention whatsoever on unifying the country or working in a bipartisan manner especially with any policy or legislation originating from Trump... The level of contempt and hate these people have for not only Trump, but all conservatives, would never allow them to work with him to allow any political victories...

I've said it many times before, and I firmly believe, without being hyperbolic, that trying to reason and negotiate with liberals is no more productive than trying to negotiate with terrorists... Neither have any intention of compromise, and eradication of the opposition is their only goal... After the last 4 years seeing what we've seen, lots of folks are finally waking up to this realization...
I would expand on your assessment to include freedom caucus folks. Both parties are increasingly recalcitrant. When discussing why Trump failed to unify the country, there is plenty of blame to go around, but as President, Trump has to own it. I think the same thing applies to President Biden and his failure to be a unifier.
 
Biden is just a figurehead. He's saying and doing what his handlers want .
They are playing both sides of the fence. Acting like they care about Israel, yet pandering to the protesters and Tlaibs' and Omar's constituents.
Democrats are well aware of Biden's dismal poll numbers. They are trying to salvage votes.

you and I rarely agree on much..

but on this I absolutely agree with you....

Biden will swear he'll never send another artillery round today... because someone told him thats what he needs to say to get a vote..

and then send a C17 over tomorrow with a dozen palates of 105mm rounds... and make sure he tells everyone in a Synagogue how he supports Israel next week when hes visiting them..
 
Biden is just a figurehead. He's saying and doing what his handlers want .
They are playing both sides of the fence. Acting like they care about Israel, yet pandering to the protesters and Tlaibs' and Omar's constituents.
Democrats are well aware of Biden's dismal poll numbers. They are trying to salvage votes.
Who specifically are Biden’s supposed handlers? I hear this stated from many folks both on this forum and in person, and I would like some clarity on this.
 
Who specifically are Biden’s supposed handlers? I hear this stated from many folks both on this forum and in person, and I would like some clarity on this.

Every POTUS (every senior govt official for that matter) has an extensive staff.. whose actual job is to keep him advised, tell him what to say, not to say, how to say it, etc.. its impossible to keep 100% up to date on every possible matter in the world.. to include the biggest topics of the day (there is far more to the Israel conflict for example than what we see on the news, can capture through Reddit, Twitter, etc.. even if we absorbed all the open source intelligence information available)... so POTUS relies on his team to be knowledgeable, tell him what he needs to know, tell him the most appropriate action to take, etc...

Which is why its incredibly important to pick a world class group of both formal and informal advisors, have a top 1% chief of staff to keep the chaos of the 24/7/365 shitstorm of the world and the team of people there to keep POTUS abreast of it all in line and moving in the right direction, etc...

Some POTUS tend to lean heavily on their team and follow their guidance and direction tightly (younger Bush was a very good example.. Reagan leaned heavily on his team as well... as did Clinton)... others tend to call their own shots and not listen much at all (Obama and Trump are both good examples)...

Biden has been known for most of his political career to be more of a mouthpiece than an actual decision maker.. he mastered the art of getting people on board and pushing groups in the direction he wanted them to go while in the senate... but he isnt really known for being the idea guy.. he has a staff for that..

Im pretty sure since that system worked for him for decades before sitting behind the resolute desk.. he hasnt changed it much... and more often than not when youre hearing Bidens position on something (anything).. what youre hearing is the position that was developed for him by others..

A specific example I can give you from past administrations was one that I witnessed personally in the mid 2000's...

Paul Wolfowitz was often considered the big brain among the senior neocons in the Bush administration... when SECDEF, SECSTATE, POTUS, VPOTUS, etc needed someone to develop an opinion or a position on a major issue/item.. he'd often get the call... the conversation would often go something like this... "Hey Paul.... X is happening in Y location... some basic facts are A, B, C, D, and E... put a day into this and call me back and let me know what you think the best move is..."

72 hours later you'd see POTUS, VPOTUS, or some other senior cabinet member on C-Span spouting almost verbatim the position that was developed for them by someone else (wolfowitz)...


FWIW this isnt exclusive to politics...

The military is very similar in how things work... senior flag officers have a fairly large staff and access to extensive resources beyond their staff... they cant possibly know or understand everything about every possible aspect of warfare AND administration/management of large organizations AND regional or theater specific issues AND, AND, AND, etc... so they have people that handle a large amount of this for them... they are the ultimate shot caller (at their level.. often things escalate to the civilian leaders in the pentagon or to the hill).. but are reliant on volumes of information coming from others and on courses of action being developed by others for them to make decisions.. and obviously the people developing those COA and providing information have their own agendas their own biases, etc...

Im the CEO of a reasonably sized (mid market) firm... there is no way I can know everything there is to know about every functional area of my business, despite being in industry and other related industries my entire adult life.. plus also know everything there is to know about the changes in the regulatory environment, changes in the market, changes in the economy, etc..etc..

I rely heavily on my team of senior and middle managers and executives to tell me whatever it is I need to know and to develop courses of action for me to take to resolve whatever problems the firm needs to deal with...

If they come to me with obviously tainted information or poorly thought out COA's I send them back to the drawing board... or if they dont bring me enough information to make a proper decision I get them to go get the information needed so that decisions can be made...

But ultimately I very much rely upon the team to tell me which way to turn the boat, why to turn the boat the direction I turn it, how much power to throw into the engines, etc..etc.. to navigate the storm... Im just the guy at the helm making those adjustments... there are a whole lot of guys behind the scenes actually telling me what adjustments to make.. I trust them to do that correctly...

If they lose my trust, the leave the organization and I find someone else I can trust... because at the end of the day I am reliant on them "handling" me/our business properly.... Im largely just the guy that takes responsibility when things fail and passes down the glory when things go well... THEY are who are heavily influencing every shot that gets called..
 
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