Politics

[Tanks]

For anyone constantly and exclusively bashing and demeaning ONLY Trump and Trump supporters, the hard reality is you are supporting and in effect voting for Brandon. Simple as that. It is not a complicated truth. This is a two horse race period. No one can claim high ground and avoid this reality, using an after-the-fact rationalization by later saying something like, "Well don't blame me, I didn't vote for Brandon, yada, yada, yada"... or whomever may take his place if they kick the POS out at the last minute. ...

I made it pretty clear that no matter how much damage Biden will do domestically to the country. I truly believe Trump will do worse worldwide and poison the well for any future GOP candidates.

I'd rather have 4 years of Biden (yuck) and at least 8 years of a GOP POTUS that can fix his damage afterwards rather than 4 years of Trump and decades more of Democrat dominance.

Yes, it is a two-horse race, and Trump primary voters share the blame in putting forth such a limp horse.

Plus, Trump was pretty explicit in not wanting my vote or money, I am just following his directions.

 

[freefall]

This is a damned educational thread.
I have learned that it's honorable to disregard the destruction of your country because you are personally offended.
I have learned that I am a poor low-class bastard because I notice the price of gas and groceries.
I have learned that I am a kiss-ass for voting against the people who advertise they want to destroy my country.
I sure am glad I come here to get educated.

 

[ActionBob]

I made it pretty clear that no matter how much damage Biden will do domestically to the country. I truly believe Trump will do worse worldwide and poison the well for any future GOP candidates.

I'd rather have 4 years of Biden (yuck) and at least 8 years of a GOP POTUS that can fix his damage afterwards rather than 4 years of Trump and decades more of Democrat dominance.

Yes, it is a two-horse race, and Trump primary voters share the blame in putting forth such a limp horse.

Plus, Trump was pretty explicit in not wanting my vote or money, I am just following his directions.

Can you please explain what Trump did during his presidency that was so awful? In particular on the International stage.

He brought forth the Abraham accords. He pushed Europe to pay a greater share of NATO expenses. He encouraged domestic production of energy which brought the World oil proce down. He pulled us out of the Paris Agreement on Climate. He made moves to get us out if wars especially Afghanistan and we will never know but I cannot believe the withdrawal would have turned into the debacle it did had Trump remained president. He got the North Korean Dictator to back off his missile program for a while. Certainly did more on that front than Biden.

Again we will never know if Putin would have invaded Ukraine but I really don't think Trump would have given an off handed. blessing for a "minor incursion". He definitely would not have released Billions of dollars to Iran to use to support Terror groups against Israel. And I really don't think he'd be considering pulling support from Israel today in these circumstances.

Now I didn't like the Tariffs one damned bit. I didn't like the horrible speeches, although he has gotten much better since his first year in office. I hated how he literally made my ears hurt. And the boisterous bullshit he spewed. But I am enjoy his tax code. When you look at what he did accomplish, it was not anywhere near promised but it was pretty good. In other words his bite was a lot better than his bark.

I for one cannot fathom this country suffering another 4 years of the Big Guy and his lying crooked socialist ways. He has done everything he said he would! By crook or hook.

I totally disagree that the government can spend it's way to prosperity. It produces NOTHING and hinders severely those who do produce.

 

[freefall]

A while ago, few weeks, there was a fortune cookie thing in a comics page I read, said "You think it's a secret. But it's not."
I was reminded of this a day or so ago, somebody siad "I don't know if this was directed at me".
To which I reply, "If you wonder, it's directed at you. Even if it wasn't."

 

[LivingTheDream]

I think Pence is a good man. My biggest issue I had with him is how can you trust a man with the nuclear football if he is afraid to eat alone with another woman. Of course hindsight of the MeToo movement he was before his time.

 

[freefall]

I think Pence is a good man. My biggest issue I had with him is how can you trust a man with the nuclear football if he is afraid to eat alone with another woman. Of course hindsight of the MeToo movement he was before his time.

I can't fault him for that. In this day a politician is a fool to be alone with ANYONE.

 

[Just Gina]

I typically like reading this thread and the different perspectives (for the most part) of those that contribute.

What I do not understand is how so many are bent out of shape that Trump offended them, yet those are the very ones that call Trump supporters names, insinuate, or just flat out say that Trump supporters are stupid or ignorant.

I cannot fathom voting for Biden. I cannot wrap my head around the US being in the state it is in and saying that voting for Biden or having him for another 4 years would be better than having Trump because he hurt your feelers. Most, not all, people who complained about Trump when he was in office were complaining because they simply did not like him. That was the most they had to complain about.

Not voting for either candidate is accomplishing what? That you can say that you are not responsible for putting either in office? Cool.

I do not understand how dems are harping on abortion and women’s rights and getting somewhere with it. As a woman I have the right to kill my unborn baby, but they tried saying I did not have the right to refuse a covid shot?

I have the right to birth said child and raise it and provide for it, but not the right to refuse to let it get a sex change or the like? And no right to have a say so in what it is being taught in school?

I never thought I would see such ridiculous and atrocious behaviors in my lifetime. I never thought I would see the kind of corruption being carried out in front of God and everyone and people are just putting up with it.

 

[freefall]

Gina, if I were not already married to the love of my life, Bob would be in dire danger because I would be tempted to steal you away and how dare I leave him alive and hale to come searching for you.

 

[ActionBob]

Gina, if I were not already married to the love of my life, Bob would be in dire danger because I would be tempted to steal you away and how dare I leave him alive and hale to come searching for you.

I'm going to have to keep an eye on you! Or maybe a spotting scope

Late the second morning of the Wanamaker Gun Show a couple years back George of Champlin Arms came running up to Gina arms wide, gave her a big hug, looked at me and said I'm stealing her away..... Unless she's too expensive. I looked at him, then Gina and told her, Babe I'll see you back by lunch time

Seriously it is an honor and privilege to be married to such a gifted intelligent woman. She has her own voice and isn't afraid to use it, and a pretty stiff backbone to back it up! And she is sharp as a tack in any discussion and for God sakes don't get into an argument because she will spew facts and logic so fast it will blow you over Thankfully I've not suffered to much on the recieving end but I have witnessed it and it's amazing. She would have made a great litigator

 

[freefall]

I'm going to have to keep an eye on you! Or maybe a spotting scope

Late the second morning of the Wanamaker Gun Show a couple years back George of Champlin Arms came running up to Gina arms wide, gave her a big hug, looked at me and said I'm stealing her away..... Unless she's too expensive. I looked at him, then Gina and told her, Babe I'll see you back by lunch time

Seriously it is an honor and privilege to be married to such a gifted intelligent woman. She has her own voice and isn't afraid to use it, and a pretty stiff backbone to back it up! And she is sharp as a tack in any discussion and for God sakes don't get into an argument because she will spew facts and logic so fast it will blow you over Thankfully I've not suffered to much on the recieving end but I have witnessed it and it's amazing. She would have made a great litigator

Well congratulations and God bless you both!

 

[ActionBob]

Well congratulations and God bless you both!

Thanks! And I think he has

 

[Just Gina]

Thanks! And I think he has

 

[flatwater bill]

@Just Gina Thank you for telling of your experience with(out) the Covid Gene-Therapy-Product... that they loving call "the jab". Both the Mead report and the Florida Surgeon General have called for a World Wide moratorium on using this product on ANYONE. These doctor-scientists are not flakes. What worries me most is that ANY discussion on this topic was forbidden by the dems and The Biden Crime Family. If re-elected, the 4.5 billion dollars of "vaccines" that they are sitting on will be forced upon us again so money is not lost. This censorship and control is one of the main reasons I will never again vote for a democrat. And no, I don't consider Republicans to be perfect. Pres Trump is an arrogant arse. But he tried to do what was right for this Country.......including the wall. He wasn't kind and cuddly. I got over that. Pres Trump delayed funding for the WHO.......who in turn had delayed investigating the Wuhan Lab until they had time to delete all data on the virus they had released. Trump stopped the 3 weekly flights from Wuhan direct to San Francisco. Dems attacked and sued him. They got WHO refunded, and the spreader flights up and flying again. And it was not legal to even discuss these things. Right now the CDC webpage is still telling you to vaccinate your 6 month old grandchild......without ANY data on what the long term effects will be. Make no mistake about it......the dems have an agenda, and it is not good. This whole thing was such a debacle that they needed a huge diversion. They got that too. If dems are re-elected, we will have more viral flares, more mandates, more masks, and more wealth transfer...Stay strong, stay healthy, hunt often..............FW Bill

 

[BSO Dave]

Frankly, I'm making more money thanks to Biden: he gave us (federal workers) a nice raise.

Here's the problem with that illusion that you and too many Americans have failed to recognize....

Your "raise" has likely been eradicated by Brandon's inflation. Ironically, wages are only up in most job sectors precisely because of the wasteful and unnecessary government spending that began with Covid relief money and continued through Biden's "American Rescue Plan"... Employers have been forced to pay employees higher wages just to find people to work. This was, and still is, especially true in the food, beverage, and hospitality industries. The other largest job growth sector has been government jobs which although great for the employee, adds to the overall cost of government in the long run... This is not a trend of a healthy economy. It's a reactionary trend to a self-inflicted wound. Had all of this printed money not been poured into the economy, we would have seen healthy, job and wage growth with low, measured inflation that we enjoyed pre-Covid...

Furthermore, while is true that for many Americans wage growth has slightly outpaced inflation, this statistic alone does not reflect the true damage created by this staggering inflation on the most essential consumer products like fuel, groceries, rent, utilities, insurance, taxes, and other essentials that have increased on average of 25%+ over the last 3.5 years... In other words, for the Average middle-class working family who spends 60% of their month income on these essentials, inflation has been devastating despite wage growth... They are spending considerably more than they are making trying to maintain their standards of living. Unfortunately, too many Americans are doing so by accruing staggering credit card debt which will create even more economic hardships when those chickens come home to roost...

And, if inflation alone isn't causing enough damage, wait and see what will happen if all of Brandon's new taxes were to kick in... Watch what that does to wages of employees of large corporations, that is if their jobs don't get outsourced altogether... Ironically, all of the recent references about capitalism seemed to have ignored the fact that two of the biggest enemies of capitalism are government spending, and regulation, both which have grown at staggering levels under Brandon's Administration.

 

[Brent in Az]

I think Pence is a good man. My biggest issue I had with him is how can you trust a man with the nuclear football if he is afraid to eat alone with another woman. Of course hindsight of the MeToo movement he was before his time.

People need to ask this question.

Would you want to be in combat with a man like Pence? A guy who would desert his brothers in arms on the battlefield to save his own skin? Someone who doesn't have your back?

 

[Brent in Az]

You are the only one that I can think of that is saying "great President", even if it is sarcastically. I can't think of anyone on this site who has championed anything Biden has done, not even a little bit. I only respond because the way you say it makes it sound like an implication that some here do support him. I don't think that's true. And what someone had said about stocks was that their stocks were pretty much the same irrespective of who's in office. That's not the same as supporting Biden. Frankly, I'm making more money thanks to Biden: he gave us (federal workers) a nice raise. I guarantee you that I don't support him in any way though.

Being a federal worker certainly explains the disdain you have for the man that wants to drain the swamp.

Job security?......lol.

 

[skydiver386]

This guy is brilliant. He uses all the leftist talking points against them in a hilarious way.

 

[CoElkHunter]

Here's the problem with that illusion that you and too many Americans have failed to recognize....

Your "raise" has likely been eradicated by Brandon's inflation. Ironically, wages are only up in most job sectors precisely because of the wasteful and unnecessary government spending that began with Covid relief money and continued through Biden's "American Rescue Plan"... Employers have been forced to pay employees higher wages just to find people to work. This was, and still is, especially true in the food, beverage, and hospitality industries. The other largest job growth sector has been government jobs which although great for the employee, adds to the overall cost of government in the long run... This is not a trend of a healthy economy. It's a reactionary trend to a self-inflicted wound. Had all of this printed money not been poured into the economy, we would have seen healthy, job and wage growth with low, measured inflation that we enjoyed pre-Covid...

Furthermore, while is true that for many Americans wage growth has slightly outpaced inflation, this statistic alone does not reflect the true damage created by this staggering inflation on the most essential consumer products like fuel, groceries, rent, utilities, insurance, taxes, and other essentials that have increased on average of 25%+ over the last 3.5 years... In other words, for the Average middle-class working family who spends 60% of their month income on these essentials, inflation has been devastating despite wage growth... They are spending considerably more than they are making trying to maintain their standards of living. Unfortunately, too many Americans are doing so by accruing staggering credit card debt which will create even more economic hardships when those chickens come home to roost...

And, if inflation alone isn't causing enough damage, wait and see what will happen if all of Brandon's new taxes were to kick in... Watch what that does to wages of employees of large corporations, that is if their jobs don't get outsourced altogether... Ironically, all of the recent references about capitalism seemed to have ignored the fact that two of the biggest enemies of capitalism are government spending, and regulation, both which have grown at staggering levels under Brandon's Administration.

You've summed up the economic quagmire we're in pretty well. Monopoly money thrown into the system increased the inflation rate 2- 3 points (maybe more) from where it would have stopped rising. The Fed had/has to dramatically raise interest rates to tame the runaway inflation. Then the prices of EVERYTHING went up and continues to do so, including wages to partially offset SOME of the inflation. It's a vicious cycle that was preventable from the start if Brandon and his free wheeling and spending Democrat controlled Congress had any fiscal responsibility whatsoever. Ultimately it WILL lead to a recession and the only question is how bad will it be this time around?

 

[ActionBob]

People need to ask this question.

Would you want to be in combat with a man like Pence? A guy who would desert his brothers in arms on the battlefield to save his own skin? Someone who doesn't have your back?

If you are talking about January 6th, I don't believe Pence had any legal options. I honestly can understand Trump's misunderstanding the Constitution and Constructional processes. But damn he had to have gotten some terrible legal advice! Where did Rudy get his law degree? In a box of Wheaties? The Vice President has no power other than to call to order the Senate and break a tie vote.

What exactly do you think Pence should done? From my understanding of the law, his hands were tied. Unless you are advocating The Vice President ignoring and breaking the basic Laws of the Land? That would make him a Democrat.

 

[Hunt anything]

Speaking of Gina’s and Bobs doctor and Covid, mine is much the same she has asked if I’ve had Covid but never asked if I have had the shot. Negative to both that I’m aware of. She is very reluctant to prescribe medication and I feel very fortunate she is our doctor.