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[Vic]

Trump isn’t perfect, but he is exactly what this Country needs. I know we come together on this site for our love of hunting, wildlife conservation, 2A, and et al. Biden will attempt to end all of that.

Look at Trump’s time in office. He fought off one unsubstantiated claim against him after another, and he still managed to accomplish more than most.

All of this stuff happening today is to try and rig the next election.

 

[Bushpig4Ever]

 

[Vic]

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The reason for the jump is likely to be because of more people being tested. Also, the validity of some of the tests are in question.

Do you remember the Swine fly (H1N1)? Why no hysteria over that? Why not the same hysteria as COVID-19? It’s a rhetoric question because everyone knows the answer.

 

[Deleted member 11879]

You are referring to my post. Israel is the Jewish homeland, regardless of what some in the muslim communities would have you believe. As a Jew, these are my people. I disagree with your insinuation that I am somehow un-American for recognizing this.

I must also say that I take exception to your use of the word "negro." I am sure that you are aware that this is a derogatory term for black people and it has no place on this forum. It makes all of us hunters look bad when we use racist language.



Are you referring to progressives or to the electoral college? Sorry, I could not resist. While the "2%" might control the debate on twitter and college campuses, they do not control governance because THEY DO NOT VOTE.



While there are certainly many politicians without a moral compass, I believe that there are still a good number who get into politics because they want to make the country better. Trump has not demonstrated to me that he has a moral compass, and a lot of what he says seems to be to fire up his base and get him more votes instead of actually translating into policy solutions.



This is a site for a diverse group of individuals from around the world, united in the love of hunting and a passion for hunting in Africa. One of the benefits of being a member of such a group is being able to discuss a variety of topics with other upstanding gentlemen. You may participate in any discussion you like and ignore the ones you do not if you so choose.

BS! Long before the term negro became a target of political correctness it was widely used. Isn’t there, after all, a United Negro College Fund? They still use that name. I get goddamned tired of trying to keep up with what this group or that group wants to be called or what they find offensive. You want to know what I find offensive? The legions of blacks living off of welfare. Free housing, free food, free medical care, affirmative action, the fact that I paid $50,000 per year for my kids to attend private school, yet the basketball and football teams were loaded with black athletes who got a free ride while the kids who’s parents paid for their kids tuition sat on the bench. I find it offensive that my wife and I worked our asses off to live in our cities most affluent neighborhood while blacks had drug-laden house parties in rented mansions with armed guards and blasted rap music until 3:00 am and our sorry black city “leaders” were too intimidated to put a stop to it. So spare me your sanctimonious bullshit.

 

[Ryan]

The reason for the jump is likely to be because of more people being tested. Also, the validity of some of the tests are in question.

Do you remember the Swine fly (H1N1)? Why no hysteria over that? Why not the same hysteria as COVID-19? It’s a rhetoric question because everyone knows the answer.

Partially true, we lagged behind bad in the beginning of testing. Now, not so much. Our surge now is because people intepreted Open as Over.

And there was hysteria over Swine Flu. But the disease wasn't as severe and mortality rate as high in the Swine Flu.

 

[Royal27]

@Bushpig4Ever ,

I see you constantly post these anti-Trump memes and videos with no comments. There are a few others on here who are obviously not supporters of Trump, but when they offer a reply, they at least provide substantive comments to attempt to support their reasoning. You post nothing but fake news from known biased media sources which reduces the credibility of your posts to pretty much less than zero.

I would encourage you challenge yourself to make an intellectual argument if you have one. I for one, don't believe that you do, otherwise you would not limit your participation to just the posting of derogatory memes and video clips. From your avatar, can I assume that you are not an American citizen? If that's the case, I would also remind you that your opinion of our POTUS doesn't even count.

As on other forums, I would like to have an ignore button. That way, the perp's post never shows.

Edit: Can do! Click on the member's picture. When the next window pops, hit ignore. Posts will never show. Just did it, reloaded the page, post is gone. Will never have to endure his waste of bandwidth posts.

I could have told you that long ago and saved you wasted time.. Interestingly enough, it is the only "member" I've ever put on ignore that wasn't banned shortly thereafter.

 

[Saul]

BS! Long before the term negro became a target of political correctness it was widely used. Isn’t there, after all, a United Negro College Fund? They still use that name. I get goddamned tired of trying to keep up with what this group or that group wants to be called or what they find offensive. You want to know what I find offensive? The legions of blacks living off of welfare. Free housing, free food, free medical care, affirmative action, the fact that I paid $50,000 per year for my kids to attend private school, yet the basketball and football teams were loaded with black athletes who got a free ride while the kids who’s parents paid for their kids tuition sat on the bench. I find it offensive that my wife and I worked our asses off to live in our cities most affluent neighborhood while blacks had drug-laden house parties in rented mansions with armed guards and blasted rap music until 3:00 am and our sorry black city “leaders” were too intimidated to put a stop to it. So spare me your sanctimonious bullshit.

https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2010/october.htm Interesting read on the word. Words change in meaning, same as symbols. The N-word was also widely used long before it was deemed offensive. I do not hear you using that word, for which I am glad. As I said before, it is not a word I will use as it does have a derogatory connotation. However, the user did not seem to mean any harm in the use so I will not belabor the point.

I believe that welfare, and entitlements in general, are out of control. To be completely transparent, I do have a financial interest in reforming the Medicare payment system, but this is recent and has not influenced my opinion of entitlement systems. Living off the system would be a nightmare. Not only are you stripped of dignity, subservient to the government, but you are also kept in a perpetual state of near-poverty. This is no way to live. As a society, we used to look out for our neighbors and extend a helping hand to those in need. We used to reach down and lift each other up and we were all better for it. Now, we expect the government to do it for us and everyone is paying the price.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

I think this Florida Sheriff will get re-elected..........

 

[Saul]

Speaking of things that offend me, liberals describing the Trump admin as "fascist" or comparing border security to concentration camps. I lost family in Auschwitz at the hands of fascists. You would have to be diluted to think these things are comparable. Another sign of the recent progressive bend of the democratic party allowing the infiltration of antisemites.

 

[CJW]

I would argue that all of those descriptors apply equally well to Trump. I will hold off diagnosing either Biden or Trump with dementia as I am not their doctor. I will say, though, that both seem to be showing at least some mental decline, which is to be expected giving the advanced ages of both men.

The way I see it, Trump's inadequacies make it so he does not deserve a second term, but that does not mean that it warrants a vote for Biden. Biden still has a few months to lose my vote. In a sense, the 2020 election is a wash. Either we get four more years of what I would argue is failure under Trump, or we get four years of Biden. Either way, we are going to get a fresh round of candidates from both parties in 2024, and that is where my interest lies. With Clinton's loss in 2016, we saw the democrats take a nosedive to the far left, arguing that her loss demonstrated that a moderate could not win. The resounding rejection of Bernie and his ilk in the primaries against Biden seems to have tempered a lot of calls for more progressive policies within the democratic party. With Trump's win, we saw a rise in extremely far-right candidates, which seems to have been mirrored on the democrat side, leading to even greater political polarization. I do not want a far right candidate any more than I want a far left candidate. If anything, I would hope that a Trump defeat or a Biden victory would motivate more centrist or even independent candidates to run in 2024.

While I agree with not wanting a far left or right candidate, I can't agree on putting up with four years of Biden, especially if democrats are able to take full control. As Tucker says, it would be catastrophic. I also don't understand how Biden only has a few months to lose your vote. He's had 40+ years. In particular the 8 he had with Obama but I will refrain from bringing up that laundry list. In the last 12 years he and his cronies have proven how far they will go to disrupt and deceive especially with the backing of the MSM. It hasn't gotten any better in the last 3.5.

I am in no way saying Trump is perfect, sometimes he's a downright idiot. His victories and promises kept mixed with his obstacles in his four years have already been identified so again I will refrain.

 

[Saul]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/suprem...-grand-jury-materials-to-congress-11593697889

I am broadly supportive of both Mueller and the Russia investigation, but I hope that the Court does not allow this release. There is no reason why grand jury materials should be made public. The democrats should be spending their time presenting their case to the voters about Trump's failed policy, not chasing their own tails on this.

 

[CJW]

Speaking of things that offend me, liberals describing the Trump admin as "fascist" or comparing border security to concentration camps. I lost family in Auschwitz at the hands of fascists. You would have to be diluted to think these things are comparable. Another sign of the recent progressive bend of the democratic party allowing the infiltration of antisemites.

It's nauseating when antifa calls conservatives fascists. It's like they are literally too dumb to even look up the definition. I guess they are.

 

[Deleted member 11879]

https://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/news/jimcrow/question/2010/october.htm Interesting read on the word. Words change in meaning, same as symbols. The N-word was also widely used long before it was deemed offensive. I do not hear you using that word, for which I am glad. As I said before, it is not a word I will use as it does have a derogatory connotation. However, the user did not seem to mean any harm in the use so I will not belabor the point.

I believe that welfare, and entitlements in general, are out of control. To be completely transparent, I do have a financial interest in reforming the Medicare payment system, but this is recent and has not influenced my opinion of entitlement systems. Living off the system would be a nightmare. Not only are you stripped of dignity, subservient to the government, but you are also kept in a perpetual state of near-poverty. This is no way to live. As a society, we used to look out for our neighbors and extend a helping hand to those in need. We used to reach down and lift each other up and we were all better for it. Now, we expect the government to do it for us and everyone is paying the price.

If the word has changed, it's because of political correctness and those who live in constant fear of being insensitive or offending anyone. The term "negro", as I said before, is still used by the United Negro College Fund. If they thought it was offensive, I'm sure they would have removed it by changing their name. Also, the other "n" word you mention is used extensively by members of the black community when referring to one another. Why is it acceptable for them to use the word but not whites, asians, hispanics or any other ethnic group? This is the double standard that people dislike - one set of rules for me, another for you. That's why I don't give a shit about those rules. They aren't law. They're just a set of arbitrary rules made up so that we don't offend people with low self esteem.

Speaking of things that offend me, liberals describing the Trump admin as "fascist" or comparing border security to concentration camps. I lost family in Auschwitz at the hands of fascists. You would have to be diluted to think these things are comparable. Another sign of the recent progressive bend of the democratic party allowing the infiltration of antisemites.

I think you mean deluded which means to believe something that is not true. Diluted, on the other hand, means made weaker in force, content, or value by modification

 

[Saul]

While I agree with not wanting a far left or right candidate, I can't agree on putting up with four years of Biden, especially if democrats are able to take full control. As Tucker says, it would be catastrophic. I also don't understand how Biden only has a few months to lose your vote. He's had 40+ years. In particular the 8 he had with Obama but I will refrain from bringing up that laundry list. In the last 12 years he and his cronies have proven how far they will go to disrupt and deceive especially with the backing of the MSM. It hasn't gotten any better in the last 3.5.

I am in no way saying Trump is perfect, sometimes he's a downright idiot. His victories and promises kept mixed with his obstacles in his four years have already been identified so again I will refrain.

What do you predict will happen with four years of Biden? My prediction is that he will do nothing to "rock the boat" so as to set up the next democrat for an easier run in 2024. I could be completely off-base, but Biden has not proven to be a firebrand progressive and is not campaigning on the lofty goals of more progressive candidates.

On a side note, and I hope that I do not sound too much like a conspiracy theorist, but I did some work a few years ago involving Burisma in the Ukraine, and there was some pretty convincing evidence that they were getting assistance from the Russian government.

 

[Saul]

If the word has changed, it's because of political correctness and those who live in constant fear of being insensitive or offending anyone. The term "negro", as I said before, is still used by the United Negro College Fund. If they thought it was offensive, I'm sure they would have removed it by changing their name. Also, the other "n" word you mention is used extensively by members of the black community when referring to one another. Why is it acceptable for them to use the word but not whites, asians, hispanics or any other ethnic group? This is the double standard that people dislike - one set of rules for me, another for you. That's why I don't give a shit about those rules. They aren't law. They're just a set of arbitrary rules made up so that we don't offend people with low self esteem.



I think you mean deluded which means to believe something that is not true. Diluted, on the other hand, means made weaker in force, content, or value by modification

I tend to agree with you on the N-word. I personally believe that the word is offensive and should not be used by ANYONE. I understand the argument that it is "their" word now, but I think that keeping such vernacular around in society does not do anything other than perpetuate its hateful meaning.

And you are correct, I did mean deluded. Damn my big thumbs and small brain.

 

[LivingTheDream]

There is a lot of talk of Elizabeth Warren becoming the Treasury Secretary under Biden.

Biden might not intend to rock the boat but putting "progressives" in cabinet positions means a lot of their agenda will be pushed through with little resistance.

 

[CJW]

What do you predict will happen with four years of Biden? My prediction is that he will do nothing to "rock the boat" so as to set up the next democrat for an easier run in 2024. I could be completely off-base, but Biden has not proven to be a firebrand progressive and is not campaigning on the lofty goals of more progressive candidates.

On a side note, and I hope that I do not sound too much like a conspiracy theorist, but I did some work a few years ago involving Burisma in the Ukraine, and there was some pretty convincing evidence that they were getting assistance from the Russian government.

Remember those Tucker Carlson talking points you posted? That and then some. Their apparent total lack of reality and in some cases a soul scares the shit out of me. I hope you are correct that if he is elected will resist the desires of the far left but with the current state of the democratic party and his lack of character I personally have no faith.

 

[CJW]

There is a lot of talk of Elizabeth Warren becoming the Treasury Secretary under Biden.

Biden might not intend to rock the boat but putting "progressives" in cabinet positions means a lot of their agenda will be pushed through with little resistance.

His VP choices are straight out of the affirmative action and how to pander playbooks as well.

 

[Saul]

There is a lot of talk of Elizabeth Warren becoming the Treasury Secretary under Biden.

Biden might not intend to rock the boat but putting "progressives" in cabinet positions means a lot of their agenda will be pushed through with little resistance.

A Warren treasury position scares me, but I will wait a little longer to see how things develop before I let speculation too heavily influence my vote. I personally dislike Mnuchin. I think Trump would have been better served picking Icahn.

Remember those Tucker Carlson talking points you posted? That and then some. Their apparent total lack of reality and in some cases a soul scares the shit out of me. I hope you are correct that if he is elected will resist the desires of the far left but with the current state of the democratic party and his lack of character I personally have no faith.

Fair enough. Those are totally valid concerns. However, it seems that the progressive wing of the democratic party has been in decline since their height in 2018. The resounding defeat of Sanders and the primary challenges to members of the "squad" are evidence of this. Nevertheless, I will be closely watching how Biden handles the progressives in the next few months.

His VP choices are straight out of the affirmative action and how to pander playbooks as well.

Pandering is what the VP pick is for. Pence was picked to pander to evangelicals. Harris will probably be picked to pander to blacks. Luckily, the VP does not have much real influence.

 

[tigris115]

Speaking of things that offend me, liberals describing the Trump admin as "fascist" or comparing border security to concentration camps. I lost family in Auschwitz at the hands of fascists. You would have to be diluted to think these things are comparable. Another sign of the recent progressive bend of the democratic party allowing the infiltration of antisemites.

Words like fascist, nazi, Neo-nazi, socialist, communist, etc. have been diluted to the point of non-existence because so many people have used them as merely "opinion I disagree with." It's why I believe if you use that kind of language with such reckless abandoned, you should make like a glowstick and get bent.